After Apple Inc. dodged the iPhone 6 Plus BendGate bullet, detractors wounded by ricochet

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  • Reply 181 of 429
    muppetrymuppetry Posts: 3,331member
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    Do people still say "innit" at the end of a sentence? I've heard some curious variations on that one. Sometimes it appears to be replacing "isn't it"...and other times it appears at the end of a spoken sentence as if it were itself a question mark.




    Yeah mate, very cockney .. init? image Kind of like Canadian eh?



    But rest assured not all Brits speak terribly, just most of us them. Haha.

     

    Yes - not used in "proper" English and you won't hear it from well-educated Brits, but common enough in some areas of the country, including London.

     

    EDIT: embarrassing typo fixed.

  • Reply 182 of 429
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,822member
    muppetry wrote: »
    I stopped using it when I realized that Americans mostly didn't understand it. I still, surprisingly frequently, discover that other words that I've been using don't really exist over here.



    Same here. I often have to ask my American wife if a word is used here. That is the sad part isn't it? The loss of words is a shame, it is like a painter losing the access to a color. Changing the spelling and pronunciation or creating new ones is fine but oh so sad to see words die.

    I have found moving to different Sates has an impact on this greatly. Words lost in Boston still exist in the south and so on. I guess it, like English itself, is a matter of who landed where and when.
  • Reply 183 of 429
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,822member
    muppetry wrote: »
    Yes - not used in "proper" English and you won't hear it from well-educated Brits, but common enough in some areas of the country, including London.

    EDIT: embarrassing typo fixed.

    haha caught you. damn you beat me to it. LOL
  • Reply 184 of 429
    muppetrymuppetry Posts: 3,331member
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    Yes - not used in "proper" English and you won't hear it from well-educated Brits, but common enough in some areas of the country, including London.



    EDIT: embarrassing typo fixed.




    haha caught you. damn you beat me to it. LOL

     

    Phew. That was close.

  • Reply 185 of 429
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,822member
    muppetry wrote: »
    Phew. That was close.

    milliseconds I think

    BTW I always wanted to know if it was 'You whinging little toe rag" or "You whinging little tow rag" :D
  • Reply 186 of 429
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    40 millions hits on Youtube = over $150 000 in revenu for him.  I think the guy is pretty happy with its video.

     

    Regarding the legitimacy of the video, the guy made another video on the street with a brand new phone and he bend it with ease. After seeing this I think Apple should halt production and redesign it before too many are made. Its also obvious the guy knows exactly where the weak spot is, which is not in the middle of the phone.


     

    The problem with your point

    - Is that I can use a very fine blades and undercut the structural integrity of ANYTHING with 1or 2 choice cuts (those cuts can be outside, OR inside the phone). Yes, he can open the phone and cut away at the internal reinforcements. That's how special effects in hollywood break stuff.

    - You can introduce massive pressures in specific points, even using leverage, and prebend the phone and then reset it, in a way that's invisible (if you don't push it too far).

    - If it fails to bend as he wants to, he can just reset the filming and start agaim.

     

    That guy has been found unscientific and plain sleezy in the past and yet, you continue giving the benifit of the doubt.

    He's has all the motivation in the world (hundreds of thousands) to milk this no matter what the truth is.

     

    So, no, Apple doesn't need to take this shady guy into account when designing their products.

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    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,822member
    foggyhill wrote: »
    The problem with your point
    - Is that I can use a very fine blades and undercut the structural integrity of ANYTHING with 1or 2 choice cuts (those cuts can be outside, OR inside the phone). Yes, he can open the phone and cut away at the internal reinforcements. That's how special effects in hollywood break stuff.
    - You can introduce massive pressures in specific points, even using leverage, and prebend the phone and then reset it, in a way that's invisible (if you don't push it too far).
    - If it fails to bend as he wants to, he can just reset the filming and start agaim.

    That guy has been found unscientific and plain sleezy in the past and yet, you continue giving the benifit of the doubt.
    He's has all the motivation in the world (hundreds of thousands) to milk this no matter what the truth is.

    So, no, Apple doesn't need to take this shady guy into account when designing their products.

    And ... should be sued for slander and libel with damages.
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    muppetrymuppetry Posts: 3,331member
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    Phew. That was close.




    milliseconds I think



    BTW I always wanted to know if it was 'You whinging little toe rag" or "You whinging little tow rag" image

     

    Toe rag. Improvised sock IIRC.

  • Reply 189 of 429
    milliseconds I think

    BTW I always wanted to know if it was 'You whinging little toe rag" or "You whinging little tow rag" :D

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Tow Rag
  • Reply 190 of 429
    2oh12oh1 Posts: 503member
    While I agree with much of what this article is saying, the author misses the point. The bloggers who fabricate this whole bendgate thing are raking in the dough from a massive boost in ad revenue as their clicks and views skyrocket. For them - the bloggers - it's not really about iPhones vs Android. It's about generating revenue for their blogs and/or video channels.
  • Reply 191 of 429
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,822member
    muppetry wrote: »
    Toe rag. Improvised sock IIRC.

    yep, I always spelled it that was but got corrected pre internet / google and forgot till now. lol You have to love etymology + google.

    The definition derives from old England where convicts used to tie bits of shirt around their toes and feet as a make shift sock, hence "toe rag" means scoundrel, criminal, thief, indencent/unlawful person etc. It is sometiem seen spelt Tow Rag because the original context has long since been obsolete.
  • Reply 192 of 429
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,822member
    2oh1 wrote: »
    While I agree with much of what this article is saying, the author misses the point. The bloggers who fabricate this whole bendgate thing are raking in the dough from a massive boost in ad revenue as their clicks and views skyrocket. For them - the bloggers - it's not really about iPhones vs Android. It's about generating revenue for their blogs and/or video channels.

    I feel such videos made to deliberately misinform and that can cause dramatic financial damage should be open to legal action. This goes far beyond a joke / satire.
  • Reply 193 of 429

    Actually, dacloo-less, you should be the one needing to report back in a month.

     

    The entire point of the article is that bogus scandals appear year after year with no negative impact on sales. Since you're disputing that this happens like clockwork, the burden is on you to prove otherwise. 

  • Reply 194 of 429
    muppetry wrote: »
    Toe rag. Improvised sock IIRC.

    yep, I always spelled it that was but got corrected pre internet / google and forgot till now. lol You have to love etymology + google.

    The definition derives from old England where convicts used to tie bits of shirt around their toes and feet as a make shift sock, hence "toe rag" means scoundrel, criminal, thief, indencent/unlawful person etc. It is sometiem seen spelt Tow Rag because the original context has long since been obsolete.

    I would have to go with "toe" rag, too. "Tow" rag makes no more sense then "tow the line", and yet, you see people say that all the time.
  • Reply 195 of 429
    muppetrymuppetry Posts: 3,331member
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    Toe rag. Improvised sock IIRC.




    yep, I always spelled it that was but got corrected pre internet / google and forgot till now. lol You have to love etymology + google.



    The definition derives from old England where convicts used to tie bits of shirt around their toes and feet as a make shift sock, hence "toe rag" means scoundrel, criminal, thief, indencent/unlawful person etc. It is sometiem seen spelt Tow Rag because the original context has long since been obsolete.




    I would have to go with "toe" rag, too. "Tow" rag makes no more sense then "tow the line", and yet, you see people say that all the time.

     

    I think they believe it to be a fishing term.

  • Reply 196 of 429
    muppetrymuppetry Posts: 3,331member

    Having thoroughly derailed this thread with English etymology, can we please get back to debating the many ways in which Apple is doomed?

  • Reply 197 of 429
    I feel such videos made to deliberately misinform and that can cause dramatic financial damage should be open to legal action. This goes far beyond a joke / satire.

    I doubt Apple would pursue such a course of action, however a class-action suit filed on behalf of investors against that YouTuber might do the trick.
  • Reply 198 of 429
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    Coincidence or similar design intent.

     

    Just to reiterate.

     

    Deformation without loss of function isn't the same as deformation with loss of function. If a device is bent and is still functional, at least the owner has use of the phone until it is replaced. This was not part of the test but it is substantially the failure mode, and I'm certain that engineers designing these devices attempt to provide functionality even in a case failure.


     

    Pressure in your pocket is quite different if you have a long phone than a shorter phone because of:

    - Leverage, this in theory should make the longer phone more prone to breakage. The bottom of the phone (pinned against the bottom of your butt) in this case would be the pivot. This is probably how a phone would be bent under a constant but not too high pressure. That's were the phone having the ability to move in your pocket, even a bit, can make a huge difference.

     

    - A Long phone strangely compensates with the leverage aspect with possibly having a larger area on which to distribute the stress (expecially if they have internal bracing for that).

     

    A pocket also rarely provide a huge amount of point pressure.. Why? Because if there is 70 pounds of pressure on a small point of your phone... There is probably 70 pounds of pressure on some small point of your body... That's probably a position you don't want to stay in for even one second.

  • Reply 199 of 429
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,822member
    muppetry wrote: »
    I think they believe it to be a fishing term.

    And thus the language changes region to region ...

    I have a personal reason for my interest in all this. My parents moved around England a fair bit during my school age years (school age meaning 4 -18) and every bloody new school I went to spoke a sodding different language! :\

    And my phone doesn't bend to the right.
  • Reply 200 of 429
    muppetry wrote: »
    Having thoroughly derailed this thread with English etymology, can we please get back to debating the many ways in which Apple is doomed?

    You want to re-rail the thread? ????
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