After Apple Inc. dodged the iPhone 6 Plus BendGate bullet, detractors wounded by ricochet

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  • Reply 121 of 429
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dacloo View Post



    I'm not taking the bait. I don't have the time of painstakingly illustrating these points. 

     

    Translation: "I've got no actual argument...

     

    Squirrel!"

  • Reply 122 of 429
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 10,557member
    herbapou wrote: »
    40 millions hits on Youtube = over $150 000 in revenu for him.  I think the guy is pretty happy with its video.

    Regarding the legitimacy of the video, the guy made another video on the street with a brand new phone and he bend it with ease. After seeing this I think Apple should halt production and redesign it before too many are made. Its also obvious the guy knows exactly where the weak spot is, which is not in the middle of the phone.
    herbapou wrote: »
    40 millions hits on Youtube = over $150 000 in revenu for him.  I think the guy is pretty happy with its video.

    Regarding the legitimacy of the video, the guy made another video on the street with a brand new phone and he bend it with ease. After seeing this I think Apple should halt production and redesign it before too many are made. Its also obvious the guy knows exactly where the weak spot is, which is not in the middle of the phone.

    All this means is that you are one of the gullible ones. Apple says only 9 complaints but YOU decide to believe some unknown bozo on the Internet and will now probably claim Apple is lying.
  • Reply 123 of 429
    gatorguy wrote: »
    paul94544 wrote: »

    the details about "HTC's flagship bent at 60 pounds of force and cracked open at 90, while the iPhone 6 Plus didn't bend until 90 pounds of force, and didn't crack open until the test reached 110 pounds." proves it.
    One oddity stands out tho. CR found the iPhone 6 and HTC both permanently deformed at the same pressure, 70 lbs. :???:

    http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2014/09/consumer-reports-tests-iphone-6-bendgate/index.htm
    gatorguy wrote: »
    paul94544 wrote: »

    the details about "HTC's flagship bent at 60 pounds of force and cracked open at 90, while the iPhone 6 Plus didn't bend until 90 pounds of force, and didn't crack open until the test reached 110 pounds." proves it.
    One oddity stands out tho. CR found the iPhone 6 and HTC both permanently deformed at the same pressure, 70 lbs. :???:

    http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2014/09/consumer-reports-tests-iphone-6-bendgate/index.htm

    Why is that odd?
  • Reply 124 of 429
    flaneurflaneur Posts: 4,526member
    I love Apple, but...

    The WWDC this year was exciting; there was a palpable buzz in the air. I'm sure we we will see the fruits of Swift, Metal etc. in the years to come.

    This September, however, hasn't gone by without some big event being marred by controversy.

    Firstly, we had the live stream keynote that caused me to want to hurl my iPhone at the screen due to the constant freezing. Its main highlight was the ?Watch, a product that was announced with no definite date, no indication of battery life and no price, unlike the first iPhone. Technologically, the digital crown takes us back to a time before the iPhone with its needlessly confusing interface. Telling was the share price: it rose strongly during the Apple Pay demo and dived during the ?Watch demo. It finished with U2 and Cook in a protracted embarrassing fizzling out.

    Secondly, we had the preorder nightmare, in which Apple found it impossible to enable the Apple faithful to buy iPhones online without tearing their hair out.

    Thirdly, we had the Chinese scalpers dominating the lines in NYC, casting a slur on what should have been an innocent reflection of Apple's popularity.

    Fourthly, we had BendGate, which made me realise that Apple should have brought out the 6 in two sizes: 4" and 4.7".

    Finally, we had 8.01, a disaster that DED neglects to mention in his article here. People like Slurpy were cussing at all those who were affected, saying that all companies make mistakes and that anyone who updated immediately was an idiot.

    Whilst I'm looking forward to buying probably the iPhone 6, and very looking forward to the new iPads, I feel that this has been a torrid time in Apple's history, and is indicative of a failure of leadership at the very top. As a shareholder, this is not a state of affairs that I wish to continue.

    Tim Cook needs to examine what his priorities are as CEO of Apple, because at the moment, Apple are not doing justice to Steve Jobs's legacy.

    I nominate this as Drama Queen Post of the Year.
  • Reply 125 of 429
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post

     

     

    I agree. I didn't own one myself, but I believe that it was also the first fanless design in a Mac.


    The original Mac, Mac 512e (Fat Mac) and Mac Plus didn't have an internal fan. The Mac SE was the first Mac to have an internal fan, for the earlier models, you could get an external fan from third-party vendors if heating was an issue.

  • Reply 126 of 429
    It seems odd unless you recognise the article's all about competitive responses, and here Apple's chief competitor * Google gets in on the gangbang by 'actively promoting' the video - DED economically reminds us that YouTube is one of their henchmen.

    * so identified by Tim Cook in his Charlie Rose interview
  • Reply 127 of 429
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    Originally Posted by steveH View Post

     

    The original Mac, Mac 512e (Fat Mac) and Mac Plus didn't have an internal fan. The Mac SE was the first Mac to have an internal fan, for the earlier models, you could get an external fan from third-party vendors if heating was an issue.


     

    I didn't know that, good info!

  • Reply 128 of 429
    Tim Cook needs to examine what his priorities are as CEO of Apple, because at the moment, Apple are not doing justice to Steve Jobs's legacy.

    Wow. I think frosty is edging closer to Odo's level. Such a shame.

    Jobs: MobileMe, g4 cube, iPod HiFi, "antenna gate". Jobs wasn't perfect.
    I have no anti-Apple friends. ;-)

    Lucky you. I have one friend like that. Everyone else has iPhones. So when he's in the iMessage group, he can't follow the conversation.
  • Reply 129 of 429
    I agree, the toilet seat iBook was a design joke. However, the lines visible in the clear cube plastic were shown to be mold lines, not cracks.
  • Reply 130 of 429
    Originally Posted by SirLance99 View Post

    What the author is missing, is that normal people are not even remotely paying attention to what he's trying to point out. All people are hearing is that the iPhone bends easily. I'm hearing it every single day now. 



    So do your part in setting people right. Or would you prefer to live in a world of idiots?

  • Reply 131 of 429
    The original Mac had no fan because Jobs wanted it to run silently.
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    This guy bending phones is basically a TV evangelist. He'll get tons of views and followers only because they like what he has to say.

     

    But in the end, he's not getting many people to switch sides. All he's really doing is preaching to the choir - making people who already hate Apple happy about seeing something new they can feel good about inside. Quite pathetic, actually.

  • Reply 133 of 429
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    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post



    Bloggers who invent and inflate "controversies" and "scandals"...

     

    It's good to see that DED is finally writing about a topic that he's an expert on!  <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />

  • Reply 134 of 429
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,565member
    muppetry wrote: »

    Why is that odd?

    Because the HTC is a larger phone than the iPhone 6, and the still larger 6+ survived even heavier pressures. I wouldn't have expected either the M8 or the iPhone 6 to come in at the bottom of the tests, and particularly the iPhone 6
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    nancydeng wrote: »
    I don't think this is a big problem, you just need to buy an iphone 6 plus case, http://www.case2case.net/iphone-3g-3gs-cases/iphone-6-plus-cases.html , as a not cheap phone, it is really need to buy a case.

    Are you the owner of that site? If so, your ripoff products should be banned.

    https://www.trustpilot.com/review/case2case.net
  • Reply 136 of 429
    formosa wrote: »
    "...had ran out..." is incorrect grammar. I think he wanted to say "had run out" (past perfect tense).

    Thanks for info, probably a typo then. I wondered as I hear 'had ran' and see it written a lot and began to think it was another of those changes I just have to learn. After all I still say 'I dived' not 'I dove' and I wince trying to say 'dove' ... but I try hard to be a good American :)

    Actually, turning "dive" into a weak verb is a British innovation—the American usage is, as in most cases, conservative. (I get kind of the same reaction seeing someone who's not a toothless hillbilly say "et" for "ate"—for an example going the opposite direction.)

    "Had ran" is just wrong. Presumably a typo. I'm surprised you've seen it actually used. The internet-only term that always slays me is "whinge" for "whine". Where does this come from? Does it rhyme with "hinge"? Inquiring minds want to know....
  • Reply 137 of 429
    gatorguy wrote: »
    muppetry wrote: »

    Why is that odd?

    Because the HTC is a larger phone than the iPhone 6, and the still larger 6+ survived even heavier pressures. I wouldn't have expected either the M8 or the iPhone 6 to come in at the bottom of the tests.

    Oh - yes, agreed on the 6/6+ ranking. Who knows what the HTC is made of, or designed to withstand, so it's just an isolated data point, but with regard to the iPhones it suggests that Apple made more effort to strengthen the 6+ than the 6+.
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    flaneur wrote: »
    I nominate this as Drama Queen Post of the Year.

    I second that nomination. The' chicken little' approach to assessing a situation
    This guy should perhaps, before posting this stuff, breathe into a paper bag or take a short walk or something.
  • Reply 139 of 429
    Actually, turning "dive" into a weak verb is a British innovation—the American usage is, as in most cases, conservative. (I get kind of the same reaction seeing someone who's not a toothless hillbilly say "et" for "ate"—for an example going the opposite direction.)

    "Had ran" is just wrong. Presumably a typo. I'm surprised you've seen it actually used. The internet-only term that always slays me is "whinge" for "whine". Where does this come from? Does it rhyme with "hinge"? Inquiring minds want to know....

    I've actually heard some Brits pronounce "whinge" (rhymes with "hinge"). It's awkward. As awkward as a literal pronunciation of "maths".
  • Reply 140 of 429
    tmaytmay Posts: 6,453member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Benjamin Frost View Post



    I love Apple, but...



    The WWDC this year was exciting; there was a palpable buzz in the air. I'm sure we we will see the fruits of Swift, Metal etc. in the years to come.



    This September, however, hasn't gone by without some big event being marred by controversy.



    Firstly, we had the live stream keynote that caused me to want to hurl my iPhone at the screen due to the constant freezing. Its main highlight was the ?Watch, a product that was announced with no definite date, no indication of battery life and no price, unlike the first iPhone. Technologically, the digital crown takes us back to a time before the iPhone with its needlessly confusing interface. Telling was the share price: it rose strongly during the Apple Pay demo and dived during the ?Watch demo. It finished with U2 and Cook in a protracted embarrassing fizzling out.



    Secondly, we had the preorder nightmare, in which Apple found it impossible to enable the Apple faithful to buy iPhones online without tearing their hair out.



    Thirdly, we had the Chinese scalpers dominating the lines in NYC, casting a slur on what should have been an innocent reflection of Apple's popularity.



    Fourthly, we had BendGate, which made me realise that Apple should have brought out the 6 in two sizes: 4" and 4.7".



    Finally, we had 8.01, a disaster that DED neglects to mention in his article here. People like Slurpy were cussing at all those who were affected, saying that all companies make mistakes and that anyone who updated immediately was an idiot.



    Whilst I'm looking forward to buying probably the iPhone 6, and very looking forward to the new iPads, I feel that this has been a torrid time in Apple's history, and is indicative of a failure of leadership at the very top. As a shareholder, this is not a state of affairs that I wish to continue.



    Tim Cook needs to examine what his priorities are as CEO of Apple, because at the moment, Apple are not doing justice to Steve Jobs's legacy.

    Let me guess. You don't even remember when Apple didn't have enough resources to deliver both iOS and OSX on time, nor remember the rollout of the iPod, ("only 4 GB. Lame")

     

    Oh yes, the LiveStream. Obvious failure, but unprecedented number of viewers. I'm guessing that Apple is putting some serious work into that with their own delivery system. Not much of a black eye to consumers in that any other consumer company in the world would kill for the streaming problems Apple had brought on by the popularity of the Keynote.

     

    There's always a preorder nightmare. Too many buyers chasing too little product. News; it will happen again next year. Again, any other consumer company in the world would kill for that problem.

     

    Apple did give an entry price, implied that it wasn't finished, and have developers on board working on the aWatch. A bit secretive so that the copiers don't get details. You know of whom I am speaking of.

     

    Far as I know, there isn't a law against paying someone to get in line and buy a product and ship it overseas to make more money in the grey market, and frankly it wasn't only people of Chinese origin that were doing this. Again, other companies, blah blah blah. Plenty of stores throughout the U.S. where this didn't happen. Go figure.

     

    Bendgate. Internet histeria and from my readings of just the Mac forums, a substantially limited capacity to understand anything about product design and engineering. I've seldom read so many comments with zero grounding in applied science or engineering, but forgiven as so few people are interested in engineering, physics or applied science education in the U.S.

     

    iOS 8.01 only affected some 40,000 users. Considering that there are now 10's of millions of iOS 8 users, and that Apple quickly delivered 8.02, I'm not seeing all that much of a black eye. 

     

    As for leadership and all that, you have no concept of history or even Steve Jobs if you believe that things were better under his leadership, because all I see is his most trusted lieutenant, Tim Cook taking the reigns of the company and delivering products, services and software and a pace that Steve would be quite proud of. The difference for Steve was that he didn't have the luxury of any failure at all when he came back to Apple, and that's what's special about him, and he passed that on to Tim and Apple employees.

     

    So yeah, there have been glitches, but once the internet histeria drops off, leaving you and your ilk in the past, it will be one grand slam for financials as consumers buy Apple products in droves.

     

    The competition is very afraid and very afraid of what comes next.

     

    BTW. Is it only me not understanding why all of these so called test used the single load from the back and not also from the front, which would be the failure mode of an iPhone screen in the back pocket, screen in.

     

    Morons at Consumer reports. I'm assuming that Apple tests for pretty much all failure modes.

     

    Add to that the fact that a case that doesn't fail but doesn't protect the electronics really has no benefit. In actual fact, the tests should have been done with the phones on, and note made when they stopped functioning, which is in fact, the failure mode important to consumers.

     

    But its pointless to even test these as the failure rate due to bending is so limited in the real world.

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