My MacBook Pro was infected by something. With Safari browser, when I click a link from a link like the comments in this article another web page will open in another tab. When I try to open a link in a Gmail email Safari will not open it saying a popup blocker may be preventing the application from opening the page. I tried to do all kinds things from Safari Preferences. I could not return Safari to the previous state.
I am forced to use Firefox to avoid these annoyances. Firefox does not exhibit this problem.
There was a ready made VM of Yosemite out a while back on the dark net and we suspected it was a trojan. Unable to resist seeing if it was, we tested it .. It was, we ran it in a very safe environment but it was fun to watch it trying to open ports and make connections. If anyone actually ran it on a normal Mac they would have been naked in minutes.
Fascinating. Very clever way to hide malicious code. People looking for free software will always be prime targets.
Inspecting the x-headers of junk mail sometimes turns up interesting clues to its real purpose.
With their new payment system coming out, Apple needs more than ever for people to trust their platforms. The current safe reputation of the Mac has to stay. I think it's time they took the step of making Macs only run software from the App Store.
It would reduce the number of security incidents (because even if the user enters their password the computer still wouldn't run software not signed by Apple). Also it would force certain Mac software companies such as Panic which are on the fence about the App Store to either commit to it or go elsewhere. I think they would blink before Apple.
I think malware is a term that describes all malicious software from adware all the way up to viruses that can steal and delete data and replicate across the network. If the creators named it iWorm, they clearly think it is very nasty indeed.
I agree the infected users are likely self inflicted but in a way Apple is responsible because they have created a false sense of security that Macs are not susceptible to viruses. Then the users go clicking on phishing links because they are naive or just stupid.
apple hasn't created any false sense of security nor is it responsible. there aren't any actual viruses for OS X in the wild. its just a fact. you can't blame apple for the facts. but clearly you can try.
I'm not placing any blame on Apple technology, it is maybe Apple marketing. Sort of like those new car commercials that show cars automatically applying the brakes when it detects dangerous situations.
what marketing? specifically, what are you talking about?
...Apple is responsible because they have created a false sense of security that Macs are not susceptible to viruses.
Where does Apple state that Mac OS X isn't susceptible for Mac OS X viruses?
Mac OS X (since at 10.4 Tiger?) even has a dynamically updated anti-malware tool for looking for, warning and removing malware. That is proof that Mac OS X can be infected with malware and it comes right from Apple thereby proving your argument false. I would bet we'll see their database updated to look for this new iWorm soon since the database is updated daily.
to be clear my personal opinion is that OS X is the most secure OS with the possible exception of RHEL 7
Bullshit! Apple claimed that Macs can't get PC viruses which they make very clear in their Get A Mac campaign where they clearly refer to PCs as not being Macs. Note that they don't say Macs can't get viruses or that Macs can't get get Mac OS X viruses. Can you point to a single Windows virus that can infect Mac OS X? Of course not.
to be clear my personal opinion is that OS X is the most secure OS with the possible exception of RHEL 7
So, they dropped 2 years 3 months ago, which probably means they haven't really used it since late 2011, if ever. I've never really seen it as a major selling point. What I've seen is them pushing MACs as safer than Windows, though the gap has closed a lot in the last few years. At one time, the difference was extraordinary. Unpatched XP machines were / are a magnet for viruses, worms, etc.
to be clear my personal opinion is that OS X is the most secure OS with the possible exception of RHEL 7
Compared to Windows, OS X has always been more secure. And when they were PPC only, they were also even more secure, as you couldn't natively execute X86 code on the system. Add in Apple's small marketshare at the time and they just weren't an ideal target. Obviously that has changed, as Windows now makes up a very small part of computing devices these days. iOS is harder than heck to hit, Android is easy but there's low value in its user base, so OS X is the main target. But it's still hard.
Compared to Windows, OS X has always been more secure. And when they were PPC only, they were also even more secure, as you couldn't natively execute X86 code on the system. Add in Apple's small marketshare at the time and they just weren't an ideal target. Obviously that has changed, as Windows now makes up a very small part of computing devices these days. iOS is harder than heck to hit, Android is easy but there's low value in its user base, so OS X is the main target. But it's still hard.
Dude you are replying to someone who had Mac viruses a' plenty all the way back to the early 80s. Back then there were more viruses for Mac than there were for Microsoft. I am well aware of every minute detail of security on ALL operating systems.
Dude you are replying to someone who had Mac viruses a' plenty all the way back to the early 80s. Back then there were more viruses for Mac than there were for Microsoft. I am well aware of every minute detail of security on ALL operating systems.
That's odd, I've used every Apple product other the Apple I and every OS Apple ever wrote going back to the 1970's and never had one, not ever. I have never used any anti-virus software either. My only concession to security other that relying on Apple's built in protection with OS X, is to use Little Snitch so I can say 'no' to attempts web sites make to talk to ad trackers and 90% of the time they are Flash based (even though I have ClicktoFlash). It only takes a second on most web sites.
Can you list the viruses you are aware of that affect OS X please? I am aware a few were around on Mac OS but I, for whatever reason, not of my three Apple dealerships nor any of my thousands of clients actually ever experienced one. I would totally refute your assertion there were more for Mac OS than Microsoft's operating systems. My dealerships also dealt with IBM PCs from the day they first emerged from Hell.
So, they dropped 2 years 3 months ago, which probably means they haven't really used it since late 2011, if ever. I've never really seen it as a major selling point. What I've seen is them pushing MACs as safer than Windows, though the gap has closed a lot in the last few years. At one time, the difference was extraordinary. Unpatched XP machines were / are a magnet for viruses, worms, etc.
Totally agree that Apple has backed away from this claim, but Apple fanatics have been moving this agenda forward nonstop.
That's odd, I've used every Apple product other the Apple I and every OS Apple ever wrote going back to the 1970's and never had one, not ever. ealerships nor any of my thousands of clients actually ever experienced one.
Ha funny I must have downloaded more stuff from Compuserve. There were tons of Mac OS 4-5 viruses. Norton was essential especially for service bureaus at the time.
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My MacBook Pro was infected by something. With Safari browser, when I click a link from a link like the comments in this article another web page will open in another tab. When I try to open a link in a Gmail email Safari will not open it saying a popup blocker may be preventing the application from opening the page. I tried to do all kinds things from Safari Preferences. I could not return Safari to the previous state.
I am forced to use Firefox to avoid these annoyances. Firefox does not exhibit this problem.
Inspecting the x-headers of junk mail sometimes turns up interesting clues to its real purpose.
It's unlikely that your Mac is infected, as you have to download it and enter your password.
That's it.
F*ck this lack of security on the Mac.
I run a professional business. I need to know that my operating system of choice is secure, reliable, and receives regular updated new features.
I'm moving to Windows.
This MUST be sarcasm... Or you have no clue about security. Please consult and IT guy before doing that.
I actually laughed really hard when I realized that Windows was pretty much the only OS unaffected by the Bash glitch.
With their new payment system coming out, Apple needs more than ever for people to trust their platforms. The current safe reputation of the Mac has to stay. I think it's time they took the step of making Macs only run software from the App Store.
It would reduce the number of security incidents (because even if the user enters their password the computer still wouldn't run software not signed by Apple). Also it would force certain Mac software companies such as Panic which are on the fence about the App Store to either commit to it or go elsewhere. I think they would blink before Apple.
I think malware is a term that describes all malicious software from adware all the way up to viruses that can steal and delete data and replicate across the network. If the creators named it iWorm, they clearly think it is very nasty indeed.
I agree the infected users are likely self inflicted but in a way Apple is responsible because they have created a false sense of security that Macs are not susceptible to viruses. Then the users go clicking on phishing links because they are naive or just stupid.
apple hasn't created any false sense of security nor is it responsible. there aren't any actual viruses for OS X in the wild. its just a fact. you can't blame apple for the facts. but clearly you can try.
I'm not placing any blame on Apple technology, it is maybe Apple marketing. Sort of like those new car commercials that show cars automatically applying the brakes when it detects dangerous situations.
what marketing? specifically, what are you talking about?
Where does Apple state that Mac OS X isn't susceptible for Mac OS X viruses?
Mac OS X (since at 10.4 Tiger?) even has a dynamically updated anti-malware tool for looking for, warning and removing malware. That is proof that Mac OS X can be infected with malware and it comes right from Apple thereby proving your argument false. I would bet we'll see their database updated to look for this new iWorm soon since the database is updated daily.
what marketing? specifically, what are you talking about?
It was a stupid idea to claim that Macs were immune to viruses to begin with and Apple finally realized that.
http://www.themarysue.com/apple-virus-immunity/
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2406275,00.asp
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/9355995/Apple-drops-virus-immunity-claim-for-Macs.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/06/25/apple-removes-claims-of-viruses_n_1624309.html
http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/computers/apple-drops-claim-that-macs-dont-get-viruses-20120703-21ei4.html
http://apple.slashdot.org/story/12/06/25/1611242/apple-yanks-mac-virus-immunity-claims-from-website
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/06/its-official-apple-computers-are-no-longer-virus-free/258902/
http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-pulls-the-plug-on-virus-immunity-claim-2012-6
http://www.ibtimes.com/apple-yanks-mac-virus-immunity-claims-website-removing-reality-distortion-good-pr-move-704221
to be clear my personal opinion is that OS X is the most secure OS with the possible exception of RHEL 7
Bullshit! Apple claimed that Macs can't get PC viruses which they make very clear in their Get A Mac campaign where they clearly refer to PCs as not being Macs. Note that they don't say Macs can't get viruses or that Macs can't get get Mac OS X viruses. Can you point to a single Windows virus that can infect Mac OS X? Of course not.
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It was a stupid idea to claim that Macs were immune to viruses to begin with and Apple finally realized that.
http://www.themarysue.com/apple-virus-immunity/
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2406275,00.asp
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/9355995/Apple-drops-virus-immunity-claim-for-Macs.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/06/25/apple-removes-claims-of-viruses_n_1624309.html
http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/computers/apple-drops-claim-that-macs-dont-get-viruses-20120703-21ei4.html
http://apple.slashdot.org/story/12/06/25/1611242/apple-yanks-mac-virus-immunity-claims-from-website
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/06/its-official-apple-computers-are-no-longer-virus-free/258902/
http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-pulls-the-plug-on-virus-immunity-claim-2012-6
http://www.ibtimes.com/apple-yanks-mac-virus-immunity-claims-website-removing-reality-distortion-good-pr-move-704221
to be clear my personal opinion is that OS X is the most secure OS with the possible exception of RHEL 7
So, they dropped 2 years 3 months ago, which probably means they haven't really used it since late 2011, if ever. I've never really seen it as a major selling point. What I've seen is them pushing MACs as safer than Windows, though the gap has closed a lot in the last few years. At one time, the difference was extraordinary. Unpatched XP machines were / are a magnet for viruses, worms, etc.
Compared to Windows, OS X has always been more secure. And when they were PPC only, they were also even more secure, as you couldn't natively execute X86 code on the system. Add in Apple's small marketshare at the time and they just weren't an ideal target. Obviously that has changed, as Windows now makes up a very small part of computing devices these days. iOS is harder than heck to hit, Android is easy but there's low value in its user base, so OS X is the main target. But it's still hard.
Bullshit! Apple never claimed that Macs can't get WinPC viruses
Knee jerk. Read more than the headline of the articles.
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ROFL
Compared to Windows, OS X has always been more secure. And when they were PPC only, they were also even more secure, as you couldn't natively execute X86 code on the system. Add in Apple's small marketshare at the time and they just weren't an ideal target. Obviously that has changed, as Windows now makes up a very small part of computing devices these days. iOS is harder than heck to hit, Android is easy but there's low value in its user base, so OS X is the main target. But it's still hard.
Dude you are replying to someone who had Mac viruses a' plenty all the way back to the early 80s. Back then there were more viruses for Mac than there were for Microsoft. I am well aware of every minute detail of security on ALL operating systems.
That's like being proud that your horse and cart can't get carburetor trouble.
That's odd, I've used every Apple product other the Apple I and every OS Apple ever wrote going back to the 1970's and never had one, not ever. I have never used any anti-virus software either. My only concession to security other that relying on Apple's built in protection with OS X, is to use Little Snitch so I can say 'no' to attempts web sites make to talk to ad trackers and 90% of the time they are Flash based (even though I have ClicktoFlash). It only takes a second on most web sites.
Can you list the viruses you are aware of that affect OS X please? I am aware a few were around on Mac OS but I, for whatever reason, not of my three Apple dealerships nor any of my thousands of clients actually ever experienced one. I would totally refute your assertion there were more for Mac OS than Microsoft's operating systems. My dealerships also dealt with IBM PCs from the day they first emerged from Hell.
So, they dropped 2 years 3 months ago, which probably means they haven't really used it since late 2011, if ever. I've never really seen it as a major selling point. What I've seen is them pushing MACs as safer than Windows, though the gap has closed a lot in the last few years. At one time, the difference was extraordinary. Unpatched XP machines were / are a magnet for viruses, worms, etc.
Totally agree that Apple has backed away from this claim, but Apple fanatics have been moving this agenda forward nonstop.
That's odd, I've used every Apple product other the Apple I and every OS Apple ever wrote going back to the 1970's and never had one, not ever. ealerships nor any of my thousands of clients actually ever experienced one.
Ha funny I must have downloaded more stuff from Compuserve. There were tons of Mac OS 4-5 viruses. Norton was essential especially for service bureaus at the time.