Rumor: Apple's 12-inch Retina MacBook Air enters limited production, may miss holiday release

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  • Reply 41 of 69
    pazuzupazuzu Posts: 1,728member
    inkling wrote: »
    Apple fanboys are so amusing. If Apple advertising shifted to "fat is the new thin," within hours they'd be all excited about Apple's new thick models and attacking the champions of "but I like thin." Remember when colorful, candy-like plastic iMacs were the thing? Then white plastic, followed by natural metallic colors. Now it's anodized metal. <span style="line-height:1.4em;">Read the last pages of George Orwell's</span>
    <em style="line-height:1.4em;">1984</em>
    <span style="line-height:1.4em;">for the political equivalent.</span>


    I've never understood excessive loyalty, least of all to a giant corporation. It makes no sense to take what they dish out passively, much less excitedly. Know what you need and insist that they create it. Have you own tastes.

    Amen!
  • Reply 42 of 69
    mpantonempantone Posts: 2,153member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Go Faster View Post

     

    I think the thinner these things get the less productive they become. 


    Curiously, the 11" MacBook Air is by far the most popular model as their primary computer for Apple employees for those who have a choice. Unless they work in a specific Mac product division, that's what Apple employees prefer, according to several friends who work at Apple.

     

    Then again, the typical Apple employee doesn't get paid to edit massive image files or 4K video.

     

    Apparently some people look at their individual needs and tasks before selecting what would be an appropriate tool.

  • Reply 43 of 69
    flaneurflaneur Posts: 4,526member
    So, given your usability IQ, I assume this is a GREAT phone.
    <img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="50335" data-type="61" src="http://forums.appleinsider.com/content/type/61/id/50335/width/350/height/700/flags/LL" style="; width: 350px; height: 263px">


    Here is a simple truth.  most people want smaller lighter computers.  Most as in everyone who doesn't game or compile or crunch quantometric analytics.   volume usually means weight. weight equals cost.  less weight, lower overall cost of ownership (shipping, lugging, medical, damage [mass*9.8M/sec^2)= damage].

    Thicker doesn't mean sturdier... it's means bulkier.  Thicker means it's easier to design structure to improve rigidity,Larger venting doesn't mean better cooling.   Classic Engineering problem.  The more bulk you add, the more you're supporting the bulk you added.  The goal is to minimize weight and structure to cost balance miniming the risk of failure at the operating extremes, while maximizing usefulness at nominal operating conditions.   Welcome to Design.  Anyone can engineer a laptop.  Few 'design' them for a the critical few jobs they perform.

    Thinness means less obtrusive.  The remaining job for laptops is to bring a large scale computing device into a meeting/classroom situation without power cords, latches, loud fans, and just compute.  Stuck between a folio and a notepad, easily carried throughout the working day.

    People want smaller bags.   A huge padded laptop bag is so 90's.  Slipping laptop in a protective sheath and putting it in a thin messenger bag
    is better than hiking around with 4 lbs of computer in a Himalayan RuckSack, or a overnight bag sized 'brief' case (you know what 'briefs' are...  small reports).

    As for larger batteries.  The current MBAs have huge operating windows.  If you need more than 9 hours of battery time, I can only assume you're doing it wrong, or using the wrong tool (Apple sells a nice 10" retina device that has a longer operating window).

    Design the device for the single largest market space.  Not for all market spaces.

    Very good post. It's interesting to think of more structure as more heat inertia to overcome, just as more weight in a sports car is more mass to have to accelerate and decelerate.

    From this point of view, the MBA is engineered under road racing constraints—lots of turns mixed with straightaways—engineering that has still yet to make its way into American culture, as inkling tells us above.
  • Reply 44 of 69
    pazuzupazuzu Posts: 1,728member
    flaneur wrote: »
    Very good post. It's interesting to think of more structure as more heat inertia to overcome, just as more weight in a sports car is more mass to have to accelerate and decelerate.

    From this point of view, the MBA is engineered under road racing constraints—lots of turns mixed with straightaways—engineering that has still yet to make its way into American culture, as inkling tells us above.

    It's an Apple netbook for godsakes.
  • Reply 45 of 69
    paxman wrote: »
    But will it bend?

    The solution to solving bendgate is simple: take the iPhone, load Android on it, then let HTC call it the One M8 and voilá! It will still bend, but it will be immune from criticism.
  • Reply 46 of 69
    flaneurflaneur Posts: 4,526member
    pazuzu wrote: »
    It's an Apple netbook for godsakes.

    Brilliant. Did you think of that by yourself?
  • Reply 47 of 69
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,675member
    steveh wrote: »
    You might want to compare the current 13" rMBP, as it's noticeably thinner than what's shown above. Not to mention with a different distribution of interface ports on the side.

    I know it's outdated info, from 2012 but that's not the point: these two laptop models differ so much the post by, whomever, was so dumb I... oh, what's the use. At least you got it.
  • Reply 48 of 69
    pazuzupazuzu Posts: 1,728member
    flaneur wrote: »
    Brilliant. Did you think of that by yourself?

    You're the one who thinks a 13"MBP is the same size as a 13" retina MBP and you're sarcastically calling me brilliant?
    Rich.
  • Reply 49 of 69
    pazuzupazuzu Posts: 1,728member
    flaneur wrote: »
    Indeed. Thank you.

    You failed too. You see.
  • Reply 50 of 69
    pazuzupazuzu Posts: 1,728member
    philboogie wrote: »
    I know it's outdated info, from 2012 but that's not the point: these two laptop models differ so much the post by, whomever, was so dumb I... oh, what's the use. At least you got it.

    No-that is the whole point. You tried comparing Apples with Oranges and got caught. You shouldn't post something that is blatantly false.
  • Reply 51 of 69
    Originally Posted by pazuzu View Post

    Thank you.



    Originally Posted by pazuzu View Post

    You failed too. You see.



    No, you’re still completely wrong. Maybe do your own work before jumping on a bandwagon.

  • Reply 52 of 69
    pazuzupazuzu Posts: 1,728member

    No, you’re still completely wrong. Maybe do your own work before jumping on a bandwagon.

    What are you tawking about? Now what don't you get?
  • Reply 53 of 69
    Originally Posted by pazuzu View Post

    What are you tawking about? Now what don't you get?



    Get new glasses.

  • Reply 54 of 69
    inkling wrote: »
    Apple fanboys are so amusing. If Apple advertising shifted to "fat is the new thin," within hours they'd be all excited about Apple's new thick models and attacking the champions of "but I like thin." Remember when colorful, candy-like plastic iMacs were the thing? Then white plastic, followed by natural metallic colors. Now it's anodized metal. <span style="line-height:1.4em;">Read the last pages of George Orwell's</span>
    <em style="line-height:1.4em;">1984</em>
    <span style="line-height:1.4em;">for the political equivalent.</span>


    I've never understood excessive loyalty, least of all to a giant corporation. It makes no sense to take what they dish out passively, much less excitedly. Know what you need and insist that they create it. Have you own tastes.

    Ah yes, the "Apple is just a marketing company telling iSheep what is cool" meme. That's a very popular meme with the boys in Redmond. Helps them sleep at night.

    As for "excessive loyalty" well that's something few of the best brands can master, and it's earned, not given by lemmings. The funny thing is that for most Apple customers, it's not a tribal allegiance (like loyalty to your local football team), but simply a bond created through trust and experience. In other words, Apple users aren't lusting specs over and "bang for the buck."

    I've never understood excessive contrarianism. The need to judge and shit on others in order to feel superior. Go be happy with your personal brand choices, but that's just not enough for you is it?
  • Reply 55 of 69
    brucemcbrucemc Posts: 1,541member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post

    ...

    I've never understood excessive contrarianism. The need to judge and shit on others in order to feel superior...

     

    But if it went away then 99% of the Internet's content would be gone....;) 

  • Reply 56 of 69
    boredumbboredumb Posts: 1,418member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

    Originally Posted by pazuzu View Post

    Thank you.



    Originally Posted by pazuzu View Post

    You failed too. You see.

    No, you’re still completely wrong. Maybe do your own work before jumping on a bandwagon.


    Phil Boogie tried to disprove pazuzu's comment that the 13"mbp retina and the 13" mbair were "practically indistinguishable"

    by posting a picture comparing a 13"mbair with the older pre-retina mbpro - which is much thicker than the mbpro retina and

    therefore quite distinguishable.  

    So it's a false, deceptive, dishonest comparison...

    how is that difficult to grasp?

  • Reply 57 of 69
    unicronunicron Posts: 154member
    Just a personal wish... I would love to see the Air have the option to bump up to 16GB of RAM max. The current 8GB max is just enough to make running a couple Adobe apps at once painful.
  • Reply 58 of 69
    pazuzupazuzu Posts: 1,728member
    unicron wrote: »
    Just a personal wish... I would love to see the Air have the option to bump up to 16GB of RAM max. The current 8GB max is just enough to make running a couple Adobe apps at once painful.

    Check out the 13" rMBP. The look and weight are practically indistinguishable from the MBA yet much more so than the original 13"MBP and much more powerful.
  • Reply 59 of 69
    mcdavemcdave Posts: 1,927member
    Lightning ports all round?
  • Reply 60 of 69
    mcdavemcdave Posts: 1,927member
    go faster wrote: »
    I think the thinner these things get the less productive they become. Not like the old Macbook Pros of 2013. I've owned Mac products forever but a co-worker showed me the chromebook and I laughed but I used it for a few days and for what I do it was perfect. I noticed it automatically synced with my goog account as soon as I got near it.
    I guess I wont get to see what the new 12" Air offers as I just jumped ship. Sorry but know days I need to save money and the cost of just one of my Apple products can purchase everything I need. I will never speak bad about Apple products but the price point needs to come down. Dont tell me they're built better because I know that but I still have an old Windows XP laptop that is rock solid.
    Over the years I could say I've purchased enough Apple products to purchase a car as I updated every time the new stuff came out.

    If all you wanted was to browse the web, why did you have a Mac in the first place? Just get an iPad. Perhaps if you'd signed up with Apple cloud services rather than Google's you'd have experienced the better integration and the switch would make less sense.

    I didn't realise Google had hand-off already (with the proximity syncing) all power to them!
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