I think the whole home screen design is wrong from a functional standpoint. It seems as though they tried to figure out how to allow you to rearrange apps without having to swipe loads of pages so they dumped them in a giant zoomable grid but are people going to enjoy twiddling the crown and panning on a regular basis to find the apps they want? I don't think so and I reckon there will be a lot of accidental presses. Imagine trying to get to the music player app in that huge jumble of apps. The circular route with a fixed layout like the iPhone might seem harder to rearrange but it's not because you have way more options. You could have an infinite spiral into the watch face and you would drag apps forward and back in the spiral or assuming the clock is centered, you can have apps rearranged by tap-holding and tapping an app shifts it to the middle over the clock face, you then simply run round the bezel to the right page and tap it off where you want. There's also no thought required with that layout when you need the watch back as it's in the middle all the time no matter what page you're on.
I haven't tried it in person but yeah, you shouldn't have to zoom *and* pan to find an app. If there was like 4 apps per screen, and turning the crown flicked high speed through the pages, people would quickly learn that app X is about a half turn from the home screen, and app Y is about a quarter turn, etc.
A glamorous looking girl (on the cover, not in the other pictures of her posted here).
Apple seems to be tackling one of the key social barriers to adoption of a computer watch, the social stigma that it is too geeky. They are spending money and working with the movers and shakers who decide (well, influence) what's fashionable. Samsung doesn't seem to have tackled this problem or even realised it exists.
The funny thing is that everyone else in tech will reap the benefits, not just Apple. Though I think Apple will still dominate the space.
I am a big believer in an iWatch but it has to come in totally from left field to succeed. It has to be positioned as a fashion item not a tech device, even though it really is a tech device. If they do this and sell several models each of distinctly different design, then they can get people to buy several of them. If they come out with new designs regularly, and by name fashion designers/houses, then they'll get people to buy them regularly. Among all the tech brands, only Apple has the cachet to branch into the fashion realm. They should take advantage of this and open up a completely new market to expand in. They will own this segment for years. What brand smart watch do you imagine fashion houses will want to be identified with on the pages of Vogue or on New York Fashion Week? Samsung, Google, Microsoft, or Apple?
Ha! Way to go, t.b.!
You haven't been rummaging around in the undergrowth of those birch forests, have you? Beware the mukamor, for it turneth thee into a prophet.
How does one delete and add Apple Watch apps? Via the iPhone? iTunes?
I'd expect it will be via the iPhone as there's no data cable and no internet-connecting wifi. The wifi and bluetooth are apparently used solely for the pairing with the phone. I suppose they could do peer-to-peer wifi with iTunes. That suggests no app removal on the watch either. I wonder if each app on the Watch will require a companion app on the iPhone or at least a listing of apps to allow you to remove Watch apps on the move.
...but are people going to enjoy twiddling the crown and panning on a regular basis to find the apps they want? I don't think so and I reckon there will be a lot of accidental presses.
Given Apple's attention to detail I would presume they get this right, right off the bat. Though they do screw up every now and then with other software. But I cannot image we don't get to add/delete/rearrange the apps from an iPhone or the desktop iTunes software.
edit: major 'typo' there, by omitting 'don't' in that sentence!
I'd expect it will be via the iPhone as there's no data cable and no internet-connecting wifi. The wifi and bluetooth are apparently used solely for the pairing with the phone. I suppose they could do peer-to-peer wifi with iTunes. That suggests no app removal on the watch either. I wonder if each app on the Watch will require a companion app on the iPhone or at least a listing of apps to allow you to remove Watch apps on the move.
That's exactly what I expect. Heck, I believe I even read it somewhere, but it was most likely a rumour site, so useless.
This must have cost apple a bunch of cash. I guess the only place where a piece of Chinese electronics can be a high fashion accessory... You have to start somewhere with this nonsenses
That's not exactly how it works. Advertising costs a bunch of money. Magazines will often attempt to feature pieces from their advertisers within the editorial content. If Apple buys a lot of advertising, that can influence it. If they think it will sell issues, they would find some way to work it in anyway.
But is she a redhead? I haven't looked at the top part of the image, yet.
Well Jessica surely is, her famous quote from the film, "I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way."
As for Emily Stone, she's a ginger in almost every picture... and with those darling freckles... I'm going to bet she's 100% Authentic Redhead... hmmm ya....
The real concerns is that Apple is doing all this marketing prior to its release. They never really had to do this before. It almost seems like they know it's not going to sell and they're sending Jony and Tim to do all these interviews to try to drum up demand before the launch.
I smell trouble. If this bomb, which it looks increasingly likely to do from all this pre launch activity as well as recent polls, the stock is going to tank.
I'm so disappointed at the way Cook is handling everything.
I'd expect it will be via the iPhone as there's no data cable and no internet-connecting wifi. The wifi and bluetooth are apparently used solely for the pairing with the phone. I suppose they could do peer-to-peer wifi with iTunes. That suggests no app removal on the watch either. I wonder if each app on the Watch will require a companion app on the iPhone or at least a listing of apps to allow you to remove Watch apps on the move.
I wouldn't make that bet. While tethered now, surely the watch will become stand alone at some point. Apple will be planning on that now in their software design and architecture.
The real concerns is that Apple is doing all this marketing prior to its release. They never really had to do this before. It almost seems like they know it's not going to sell and they're sending Jony and Tim to do all these interviews to try to drum up demand before the launch.
I smell trouble. If this bomb, which it looks increasingly likely to do from all this pre launch activity as well as recent polls, the stock is going to tank.
I'm so disappointed at the way Cook is handling everything.
Welcome, concern-troll!
These polls that infer DOOOM you mention - are they by chance the one that says teens aren't that interested, conducted before the launch event?
The real concerns is that Apple is doing all this marketing prior to its release. They never really had to do this before. It almost seems like they know it's not going to sell and they're sending Jony and Tim to do all these interviews to try to drum up demand before the launch.
I smell trouble. If this bomb, which it looks increasingly likely to do from all this pre launch activity as well as recent polls, the stock is going to tank.
I'm so disappointed at the way Cook is handling everything.
The real concerns is that Apple is doing all this marketing prior to its release. They never really had to do this before. It almost seems like they know it's not going to sell and they're sending Jony and Tim to do all these interviews to try to drum up demand before the launch.
I smell trouble. If this bomb, which it looks increasingly likely to do from all this pre launch activity as well as recent polls, the stock is going to tank.
I'm so disappointed at the way Cook is handling everything.
Or maybe it's like every other revolutionary and major new product category Apple has introduced. The public didn't know why the iPhone or iPad was better until it was obvious in retrospect, and I suspect the same all happen both ?Watch and ?Pay.
Keep in mind the original Mac came with a user's manual to use the mouse.
Well Jessica surely is, her famous quote from the film, "I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way."
That's a good one!
As for Emily Stone, she's a ginger in almost every picture... and with those darling freckles... I'm going to bet she's 100% Authentic Redhead... hmmm ya....
That's a good one!
I really liked Deborah Ann Woll as Jessica in True Blood, such a vibrant character, though not much different than 'what I have to cope with'.
Thanks for pointing out how kinky the Dutch are. Yep, weird bunch over here!
You're teasing again! Now why do you think I like gingers... and it's not only the color of their hair and freckles...???
I wouldn't make that bet. While tethered now, surely the watch will become stand alone at some point. Apple will be planning on that now in their software design and architecture.
It depends, for it to be standalone, it really has to be able to deal with networking. Pretty much all wifi networks these days are password protected and the Watch has no keyboard, although WPS would be an option there. Always-on cellular is another option and used in some watches. That would allow the use of Siri too without the phone being present. The carriers should really let you connect to the same data connection as the phone you have. Most of the data would be for tiny text notifications but that'll have a bad effect on the already poor battery life.
The real concerns is that Apple is doing all this marketing prior to its release. They never really had to do this before. It almost seems like they know it's not going to sell and they're sending Jony and Tim to do all these interviews to try to drum up demand before the launch.
I smell trouble. If this bomb, which it looks increasingly likely to do from all this pre launch activity as well as recent polls, the stock is going to tank.
I'm so disappointed at the way Cook is handling everything.
Jony Ive said it marked a move away from consumer electronics, which I suspect meant that it's a move into fashion. The advertising is needed to break into a new demographic. Consumer electronics are more defined by function than form. If your computer or phone looked nice aesthetically but did very little, it wouldn't sell. Earrings, bracelets, necklaces, clothing are hardly ever defined by function. For some people, the time-keeping function of watches is still useful, likewise the tracking of fitness watches and but the time-keeping function of expensive watches is mostly redundant. You don't spend $5k on a watch if your priority is to tell the time. The priority is form and not function, it's an identity and an investment.
For an electronics company to come along and impose the priority of function into a genre defined by form, there's going to be limited appeal but there's a middle ground. The plastic lower-end watches like Casio/G-Shock, Timex are all about features and they look hideous. Their interfaces are also terrible where you have to do all sorts of combinations of button presses to get things done. An Apple Watch is fully programmable and I would again expect a full unix OS underneath. Take a video like this:
[VIDEO]
These watches vary between $150-300. I don't find the Apple Watch design to be great but it's better than those and can perform far more functions than they ever could with a much less frustrating UI. Not a lot of watches sell at the price point of the Apple Watch, the vast majority are under $100 but there's a clear upsell from lower-end watches.
I think the edition watch will struggle to sell if it's overly expensive (I don't think it will be though) because higher-end watches aren't about functionality. You'd be paying for roughly the same watch people get at $350 and it's not an investment that will hold its value. The good things about products that don't emphasize function is that there's no improved function to devalue the old model significantly. To an extent that should be true of the Apple Watch as it's not an immersive, powerful device so a new model should perform almost the same but Apple isn't out to sell one generation of product so they'll add something to get people to upgrade. I suppose they could add a camera eventually for Face-Time and selfies.
The biggest problem I see for the upsell from cheaper watches is the idea of charging every day. It worked out ok with phones but for the low-end, the watch is such an after thought that it would be a deal-breaker for many and has been for people already with the iPod watch and existing smartwatches.
When it comes to defining it as a success or failure, it's down to what people expect. I don't expect it to be a high volume product so if it sustains 10-20m units per year, I'd say that's successful. If it ends up below 2 million units per year, I'd say that would qualify as a failure. It's all relative of course, that could result in around $300m profit. For most people, I think a $300m 'failure' would be nice to have.
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I think the whole home screen design is wrong from a functional standpoint. It seems as though they tried to figure out how to allow you to rearrange apps without having to swipe loads of pages so they dumped them in a giant zoomable grid but are people going to enjoy twiddling the crown and panning on a regular basis to find the apps they want? I don't think so and I reckon there will be a lot of accidental presses. Imagine trying to get to the music player app in that huge jumble of apps. The circular route with a fixed layout like the iPhone might seem harder to rearrange but it's not because you have way more options. You could have an infinite spiral into the watch face and you would drag apps forward and back in the spiral or assuming the clock is centered, you can have apps rearranged by tap-holding and tapping an app shifts it to the middle over the clock face, you then simply run round the bezel to the right page and tap it off where you want. There's also no thought required with that layout when you need the watch back as it's in the middle all the time no matter what page you're on.
I haven't tried it in person but yeah, you shouldn't have to zoom *and* pan to find an app. If there was like 4 apps per screen, and turning the crown flicked high speed through the pages, people would quickly learn that app X is about a half turn from the home screen, and app Y is about a quarter turn, etc.
A glamorous looking girl (on the cover, not in the other pictures of her posted here).
Apple seems to be tackling one of the key social barriers to adoption of a computer watch, the social stigma that it is too geeky. They are spending money and working with the movers and shakers who decide (well, influence) what's fashionable. Samsung doesn't seem to have tackled this problem or even realised it exists.
The funny thing is that everyone else in tech will reap the benefits, not just Apple. Though I think Apple will still dominate the space.
Ha! Way to go, t.b.!
You haven't been rummaging around in the undergrowth of those birch forests, have you? Beware the mukamor, for it turneth thee into a prophet.
I'd expect it will be via the iPhone as there's no data cable and no internet-connecting wifi. The wifi and bluetooth are apparently used solely for the pairing with the phone. I suppose they could do peer-to-peer wifi with iTunes. That suggests no app removal on the watch either. I wonder if each app on the Watch will require a companion app on the iPhone or at least a listing of apps to allow you to remove Watch apps on the move.
But is she a redhead? I haven't looked at the top part of the image, yet.
Wow! Never knew this. Geez, that is ...kinda weird. But kinkycool at the same time!
Given Apple's attention to detail I would presume they get this right, right off the bat. Though they do screw up every now and then with other software. But I cannot image we don't get to add/delete/rearrange the apps from an iPhone or the desktop iTunes software.
edit: major 'typo' there, by omitting 'don't' in that sentence!
That's exactly what I expect. Heck, I believe I even read it somewhere, but it was most likely a rumour site, so useless.
Why does Cheung call it "Vogue China woman"? Does that mean there's a GQ China man?
Have to say, when I saw 'Vogue China woman', they merged to form another word. Maybe I'm not getting enough. ????
This must have cost apple a bunch of cash. I guess the only place where a piece of Chinese electronics can be a high fashion accessory... You have to start somewhere with this nonsenses
That's not exactly how it works. Advertising costs a bunch of money. Magazines will often attempt to feature pieces from their advertisers within the editorial content. If Apple buys a lot of advertising, that can influence it. If they think it will sell issues, they would find some way to work it in anyway.
Well Jessica surely is, her famous quote from the film, "I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way."
As for Emily Stone, she's a ginger in almost every picture... and with those darling freckles... I'm going to bet she's 100% Authentic Redhead... hmmm ya....
Honorable mention in Really Red, the model Deborah Ann Woll
...and one of my absolute favorites from your country, the singer Simone Simons
I do know my redheads well! My "scientific and art reference" archive is massive... :embarrass ->
Yes... the Netherlands have all kinds of kink, and ya learn something new every day, huh?... :smokey:
I smell trouble. If this bomb, which it looks increasingly likely to do from all this pre launch activity as well as recent polls, the stock is going to tank.
I'm so disappointed at the way Cook is handling everything.
I wouldn't make that bet. While tethered now, surely the watch will become stand alone at some point. Apple will be planning on that now in their software design and architecture.
Welcome, concern-troll!
These polls that infer DOOOM you mention - are they by chance the one that says teens aren't that interested, conducted before the launch event?
Gee, thanks for your "concern"... ????
Or maybe it's like every other revolutionary and major new product category Apple has introduced. The public didn't know why the iPhone or iPad was better until it was obvious in retrospect, and I suspect the same all happen both ?Watch and ?Pay.
Keep in mind the original Mac came with a user's manual to use the mouse.
That's a good one!
I really liked Deborah Ann Woll as Jessica in True Blood, such a vibrant character, though not much different than 'what I have to cope with'.
Thanks for pointing out how kinky the Dutch are. Yep, weird bunch over here!
You're teasing again! Now why do you think I like gingers... and it's not only the color of their hair and freckles...???
It depends, for it to be standalone, it really has to be able to deal with networking. Pretty much all wifi networks these days are password protected and the Watch has no keyboard, although WPS would be an option there. Always-on cellular is another option and used in some watches. That would allow the use of Siri too without the phone being present. The carriers should really let you connect to the same data connection as the phone you have. Most of the data would be for tiny text notifications but that'll have a bad effect on the already poor battery life.
Jony Ive said it marked a move away from consumer electronics, which I suspect meant that it's a move into fashion. The advertising is needed to break into a new demographic. Consumer electronics are more defined by function than form. If your computer or phone looked nice aesthetically but did very little, it wouldn't sell. Earrings, bracelets, necklaces, clothing are hardly ever defined by function. For some people, the time-keeping function of watches is still useful, likewise the tracking of fitness watches and but the time-keeping function of expensive watches is mostly redundant. You don't spend $5k on a watch if your priority is to tell the time. The priority is form and not function, it's an identity and an investment.
For an electronics company to come along and impose the priority of function into a genre defined by form, there's going to be limited appeal but there's a middle ground. The plastic lower-end watches like Casio/G-Shock, Timex are all about features and they look hideous. Their interfaces are also terrible where you have to do all sorts of combinations of button presses to get things done. An Apple Watch is fully programmable and I would again expect a full unix OS underneath. Take a video like this:
[VIDEO]
These watches vary between $150-300. I don't find the Apple Watch design to be great but it's better than those and can perform far more functions than they ever could with a much less frustrating UI. Not a lot of watches sell at the price point of the Apple Watch, the vast majority are under $100 but there's a clear upsell from lower-end watches.
I think the edition watch will struggle to sell if it's overly expensive (I don't think it will be though) because higher-end watches aren't about functionality. You'd be paying for roughly the same watch people get at $350 and it's not an investment that will hold its value. The good things about products that don't emphasize function is that there's no improved function to devalue the old model significantly. To an extent that should be true of the Apple Watch as it's not an immersive, powerful device so a new model should perform almost the same but Apple isn't out to sell one generation of product so they'll add something to get people to upgrade. I suppose they could add a camera eventually for Face-Time and selfies.
The biggest problem I see for the upsell from cheaper watches is the idea of charging every day. It worked out ok with phones but for the low-end, the watch is such an after thought that it would be a deal-breaker for many and has been for people already with the iPod watch and existing smartwatches.
When it comes to defining it as a success or failure, it's down to what people expect. I don't expect it to be a high volume product so if it sustains 10-20m units per year, I'd say that's successful. If it ends up below 2 million units per year, I'd say that would qualify as a failure. It's all relative of course, that could result in around $300m profit. For most people, I think a $300m 'failure' would be nice to have.
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