That could work, but getting rid of all HW buttons is probably not a wanted design. The fast snapping of a picture on the latest iPhones is one that comes to mind. Taking a screen capture is another.
For those of us who work, it's essential to mute it regularly, so as not to disturb. Now, instead of one simple flick of a switch, it will be necessary to hold down on the volume and wait for it to descend to zero. That makes it several times slower. Not only that, but you will lose the volume position that you had before. Turning the volume back on will also be orders of magnitude slower.
Steve Jobs would not have done this.
What a silly decision to remove essential functionality. I suspect there's a little too much drug-taking going on in Cupertino.
That's actually hilarious. Press and hold the down volume rocker for a second and a half. To turn it back up, just press and hold volume up. "Order of magnitude slower", yes maybe two seconds instead of half a second. First world problems. Or maybe take three seconds out of your hectic schedule to turn on 'do not disturb'. If Steve were alive there would be no buttons on this device at all by now. Look at the Apple remote, the evolution of iPod, iMac - less buttons, less mechanical components. Apple haven't removed any "Essential Functionality", they've altered the way the functionality works. For the better.
Apple design has always been about removing unnecessary components, starting 3.5" drive, the internal modem, the cable between the keyboard/mouse and the mac, then the optical drive. The iMac has a single button for power, hidden at the back. The trackpad is a single surface - and in the latest iteration, doesn't even hinge. This has always been the design direction. From a mechanical/rotating click wheel and four buttons to a single touch screen in a decade. The iPad will be free of all mechanical components within the next five years.
I look forward to a completely sealed unit, induction charged with no moving parts or holes of any kind in the case. Bluetooth Beats headphones/eaphones. The device beautifully water proof and no crevices to attract lint and dust.
Simple swipe up and select "Do not disturb" when you're in that vital business meeting. Job done.
I have no problem with this change. Mute switch is pretty useless on an iPad, and orientation lock doesnt need its own physical button. Its a swipe and tap away with control center.
Well good for you. Not so for many others that actually use it.
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Originally Posted by ECats
The removed switch has been redundant since iOS7. Drama over.
How exactly is it redundant? For the orientation lock, fine there is a control for that but what about muting the ringer? Nope no control for that. No, holding the volume control down does not count as it will only mute the ringer if you set the volume buttons to change the ringer/alert volume. Otherwise it mutes the system volume and your notifications and ringers will still come through...
Some of us use our iPads in meetings multiple times per week and the mute switch was handy to silence the ringer/notifications. Yeah I find holding down the volume adjustment to mute the volume fine but you do realize that the volume and the ringer are two different controls right?
A good alternative would be to add a mute button in the controls or notification center. That would be fine.
Don't get me wrong I will still buy this new iPad as I am overdo but I am sure they could have come up with some sort of compromise...
I have no problem with this change. Mute switch is pretty useless on an iPad, and orientation lock doesnt need its own physical button. Its a swipe and tap away with control center.
Well good for you. Not so for many others that actually use it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ECats
The removed switch has been redundant since iOS7. Drama over.
How exactly is it redundant? For the orientation lock, fine there is a control for that but what about muting the ringer? Nope no control for that. No, holding the volume control down does not count as it will only mute the ringer if you set the volume buttons to change the ringer/alert volume. Otherwise it mutes the system volume and your notifications and ringers will still come through...
Some of us use our iPads in meetings multiple times per week and the mute switch was handy to silence the ringer/notifications. Yeah I find holding down the volume adjustment to mute the volume fine but you do realize that the volume and the ringer are two different controls right?
A good alternative would be to add a mute button in the controls or notification center. That would be fine.
Don't get me wrong I will still buy this new iPad as I am overdo but I am sure they could have come up with some sort of compromise...
Well spotted. I forgot that.
So now, we will have to set the volume to alter the ringer and alerts, otherwise, even if you turn the volume down to zero, alerts and calls will still come through.
Bad Apple!
I had ringer and alerts set to a standard volume; now, I can't do that.
So now, we will have to set the volume to alter the ringer and alerts, otherwise, even if you turn the volume down to zero, alerts and calls will still come through.
Bad Apple!
I had ringer and alerts set to a standard volume; now, I can't do that.
You sure like whine don't you. Your post history is quite damning...
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Get rid of the physical switch just to save manufacturing cost like 50c.
The headphones in has been moved for a mor natural position when your phone is resting on a table, opposed to previus dock-ish desing.
It's also something that can break. But not anymore.
Have you actually ever heard of broken mute-switch? I haven't, ever
Actually, yes. But only once on an iPad, but often on iPhones. Those do tend to get dropped more easily though.
edit: And some get this:
And how would you put it in DFU mode?
Maybe hold down Home button for x seconds?
That could work, but getting rid of all HW buttons is probably not a wanted design. The fast snapping of a picture on the latest iPhones is one that comes to mind. Taking a screen capture is another.
Removing the mute switch was a mistake by Apple.
For those of us who work, it's essential to mute it regularly, so as not to disturb. Now, instead of one simple flick of a switch, it will be necessary to hold down on the volume and wait for it to descend to zero. That makes it several times slower. Not only that, but you will lose the volume position that you had before. Turning the volume back on will also be orders of magnitude slower.
Steve Jobs would not have done this.
What a silly decision to remove essential functionality. I suspect there's a little too much drug-taking going on in Cupertino.
That's actually hilarious. Press and hold the down volume rocker for a second and a half. To turn it back up, just press and hold volume up. "Order of magnitude slower", yes maybe two seconds instead of half a second. First world problems. Or maybe take three seconds out of your hectic schedule to turn on 'do not disturb'. If Steve were alive there would be no buttons on this device at all by now. Look at the Apple remote, the evolution of iPod, iMac - less buttons, less mechanical components. Apple haven't removed any "Essential Functionality", they've altered the way the functionality works. For the better.
Apple design has always been about removing unnecessary components, starting 3.5" drive, the internal modem, the cable between the keyboard/mouse and the mac, then the optical drive. The iMac has a single button for power, hidden at the back. The trackpad is a single surface - and in the latest iteration, doesn't even hinge. This has always been the design direction. From a mechanical/rotating click wheel and four buttons to a single touch screen in a decade. The iPad will be free of all mechanical components within the next five years.
I look forward to a completely sealed unit, induction charged with no moving parts or holes of any kind in the case. Bluetooth Beats headphones/eaphones. The device beautifully water proof and no crevices to attract lint and dust.
Simple swipe up and select "Do not disturb" when you're in that vital business meeting. Job done.
Have you actually ever heard of broken mute-switch? I haven't, ever
I have, along with the damn power button on my 4S.
I’d like to know your justification for being okay with unnecessarily added complexity.
That’d be me. I’m not sure I want a 12.7” iPad now if they’re not going to have the hardware option I use the most.
Try again, this time with a real argument.
No. Often you hit the volume rockers when hitting the Sleep/Wake button.
Removing the mute switch was a mistake by Apple.
What a silly decision to remove essential functionality. I suspect there's a little too much drug-taking going on in Cupertino.
What a silly, irresponsible, ridiculous statement!!!
Please define "too much drug-taking"...
If you're going to toss around ludicrous phrases, expect to be called to explain yourself!
(besides, I hear they're "mind-bending", and I know you'll like that!
)
I'm in the camp that would like a hardware orientation lock switch.
Even if they mapped the volume buttons so holding them both down for a second locked the orientation, that'd work for me.
Certainly better than no switch at all.
Well good for you. Not so for many others that actually use it.
The removed switch has been redundant since iOS7. Drama over.
How exactly is it redundant? For the orientation lock, fine there is a control for that but what about muting the ringer? Nope no control for that. No, holding the volume control down does not count as it will only mute the ringer if you set the volume buttons to change the ringer/alert volume. Otherwise it mutes the system volume and your notifications and ringers will still come through...
Some of us use our iPads in meetings multiple times per week and the mute switch was handy to silence the ringer/notifications. Yeah I find holding down the volume adjustment to mute the volume fine but you do realize that the volume and the ringer are two different controls right?
A good alternative would be to add a mute button in the controls or notification center. That would be fine.
Don't get me wrong I will still buy this new iPad as I am overdo but I am sure they could have come up with some sort of compromise...
Well good for you. Not so for many others that actually use it.
The removed switch has been redundant since iOS7. Drama over.
How exactly is it redundant? For the orientation lock, fine there is a control for that but what about muting the ringer? Nope no control for that. No, holding the volume control down does not count as it will only mute the ringer if you set the volume buttons to change the ringer/alert volume. Otherwise it mutes the system volume and your notifications and ringers will still come through...
Some of us use our iPads in meetings multiple times per week and the mute switch was handy to silence the ringer/notifications. Yeah I find holding down the volume adjustment to mute the volume fine but you do realize that the volume and the ringer are two different controls right?
A good alternative would be to add a mute button in the controls or notification center. That would be fine.
Don't get me wrong I will still buy this new iPad as I am overdo but I am sure they could have come up with some sort of compromise...
Well spotted. I forgot that.
So now, we will have to set the volume to alter the ringer and alerts, otherwise, even if you turn the volume down to zero, alerts and calls will still come through.
Bad Apple!
I had ringer and alerts set to a standard volume; now, I can't do that.
Well spotted. I forgot that.
So now, we will have to set the volume to alter the ringer and alerts, otherwise, even if you turn the volume down to zero, alerts and calls will still come through.
Bad Apple!
I had ringer and alerts set to a standard volume; now, I can't do that.
You sure like whine don't you. Your post history is quite damning...