Nobody else releases sales figures why should Apple.
Nobody else cares about the user experience to the point of taking pride in minor details that can't be expressed in a spec sheet why should Apple? Nobody else cares about making a phone and the chips that run it and the OS why should Apple? Nobody else cares about not selling your private information why should Apple?
How about, they do those things and more because they are Apple. I like Apple because they are more transparent than other tech companies so I would like to see more transparency, not less, from them.
I think Apple should report sales of the Watch. They poured a lot into it and have no reason to be afraid.
They are building up good momentum and are hitting the right notes - health, notifications, personalisation and fashion. No other Smart Watch has done that (or even thought about it) till now and this is even before they have announced a release date (date, not timeframe).
How exactly does shielding the numbers help against competitors? The competition is seeing iPhone figures for many years now and can do little against it.
I can understand if it is not the product they had in mind, but could not release. Maybe the original idea for the Apple TV was something much bigger but they couldn't do it, so it was released as a "hobby". Is that the case with the Apple Watch? I don't think so - short of maybe a few more health-related sensors. So why fear the sales? We are waiting to buy them in droves...
Nobody else cares about the user experience to the point of taking pride in minor details that can't be expressed in a spec sheet why should Apple? Nobody else cares about making a phone and the chips that run it and the OS why should Apple? Nobody else cares about not selling your private information why should Apple?
How about, they do those things and more because they are Apple. I like Apple because they are more transparent than other tech companies so I would like to see more transparency, not less, from them.
But all those things you mention are directly related to user experience and making the best products possible. That's all I care about. Whether Apple provides sales figures for ?Watch or not doesn't impact me as a consumer one bit.
I think Apple should report sales of the Watch. They poured a lot into it and have no reason to be afraid.
They are building up good momentum and are hitting the right notes - health, notifications, personalisation and fashion. No other Smart Watch has done that (or even thought about it) till now and this is even before they have announced a release date (date, not timeframe).
How exactly does shielding the numbers help against competitors? The competition is seeing iPhone figures for many years now and can do little against it.
I can understand if it is not the product they had in mind, but could not release. Maybe the original idea for the Apple TV was something much bigger but they couldn't do it, so it was released as a "hobby". Is that the case with the Apple Watch? I don't think so - short of maybe a few more health-related sensors. So why fear the sales? We are waiting to buy them in droves...
Well Cook did say they may break it out in the future. I think it's mostly about not wanting any talk about ASPs or how many edition watches are being sold vs sport etc. And perhaps if it becomes a really successful product Apple will break it out. Or perhaps they're working on more products in this space and eventually "other products" will be a larger category of wearables, ?TV, home automation products (9to5Mac claims Apple is working on first party hardware for HomeKit), etc. Apple can't break all that stuff out.
This is, of course, an early admission of failure with regard to the Apple Watch.
Oh well, at least they tried to disrupt. Sadly, battery technology is just not there. Check back in ten years time and this space might be ready for disruption. I doubt it, though, and so does Tim Cook, which is why he has already relegated the ?Watch to the status of niche accessory.
Steve Jobs's legacy of the iMac, iPod, iPhone and iPad will have to remain in place for the foreseeable future.
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Nobody else cares about the user experience to the point of taking pride in minor details that can't be expressed in a spec sheet why should Apple? Nobody else cares about making a phone and the chips that run it and the OS why should Apple? Nobody else cares about not selling your private information why should Apple?
How about, they do those things and more because they are Apple. I like Apple because they are more transparent than other tech companies so I would like to see more transparency, not less, from them.
they have a duty to protect their trade secrets. if at this point in time they, being the experts on their business, feel its the best thing to do, then theyre probably right and youre probably wrong.
While strong, Apple TV sales are also not being moved in numbers significant enough to break out sales into its own segment.
"It says nothing about our expectations about the product," Cook said, adding that things could change in the future. "I'm not very anxious in reporting a lot of numbers on Apple Watch and giving a lot of detail because competitors look for it."
It will make it trickier to figure out but we know the iPod sales this year and they are in decline so no more than 2.9m units. Apple TV is around 2m units per quarter. Beats headphones apparently sold 15-20m units in 7 years so quarterly units could be below 1m units but they probably grew sales in more recent years so if we assume 50% of sales were in the last year, that's 2.5m units per quarter. They might not lump subsidiary sales into that group but they'll have to report those somehow.
Apple Watch will be accessory unit sales minus 2.5-3m iPods, 2m Apple TVs and 2.5m Beats. I think 2.5m units per quarter for the Watch is reasonable so total accessory units just under 10m.
The most significant declaration I see here is not an expectation of failure, it's a declaration that the Apple Watch is an accessory. Some people want to believe the smartwatch is the next big thing like the iPhone and iPad were but they're really optional extras to boost revenue like Beats headphones. It's maximizing revenue by capitalising on their existing userbase, same with ?Pay, same with making their own iOS device cases, same with their iCloud services. The headline categories of the phone, tablet and Mac are what draw people in.
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Nobody else cares about the user experience to the point of taking pride in minor details that can't be expressed in a spec sheet why should Apple? Nobody else cares about making a phone and the chips that run it and the OS why should Apple? Nobody else cares about not selling your private information why should Apple?
How about, they do those things and more because they are Apple. I like Apple because they are more transparent than other tech companies so I would like to see more transparency, not less, from them.
I think Apple should report sales of the Watch. They poured a lot into it and have no reason to be afraid.
They are building up good momentum and are hitting the right notes - health, notifications, personalisation and fashion. No other Smart Watch has done that (or even thought about it) till now and this is even before they have announced a release date (date, not timeframe).
How exactly does shielding the numbers help against competitors? The competition is seeing iPhone figures for many years now and can do little against it.
I can understand if it is not the product they had in mind, but could not release. Maybe the original idea for the Apple TV was something much bigger but they couldn't do it, so it was released as a "hobby". Is that the case with the Apple Watch? I don't think so - short of maybe a few more health-related sensors. So why fear the sales? We are waiting to buy them in droves...
But all those things you mention are directly related to user experience and making the best products possible. That's all I care about. Whether Apple provides sales figures for ?Watch or not doesn't impact me as a consumer one bit.
Well Cook did say they may break it out in the future. I think it's mostly about not wanting any talk about ASPs or how many edition watches are being sold vs sport etc. And perhaps if it becomes a really successful product Apple will break it out. Or perhaps they're working on more products in this space and eventually "other products" will be a larger category of wearables, ?TV, home automation products (9to5Mac claims Apple is working on first party hardware for HomeKit), etc. Apple can't break all that stuff out.
Oh well, at least they tried to disrupt. Sadly, battery technology is just not there. Check back in ten years time and this space might be ready for disruption. I doubt it, though, and so does Tim Cook, which is why he has already relegated the ?Watch to the status of niche accessory.
Steve Jobs's legacy of the iMac, iPod, iPhone and iPad will have to remain in place for the foreseeable future.
A time to love, and a time to die.
Read : we don't have faith in it.
Read: i am a troll, and my sole purpose in anything i post to this site is to be a troll and troll the comments in order to make myself feel unique, important, and having purpose.
troll on, little buddy!
Nobody else cares about the user experience to the point of taking pride in minor details that can't be expressed in a spec sheet why should Apple? Nobody else cares about making a phone and the chips that run it and the OS why should Apple? Nobody else cares about not selling your private information why should Apple?
How about, they do those things and more because they are Apple. I like Apple because they are more transparent than other tech companies so I would like to see more transparency, not less, from them.
they have a duty to protect their trade secrets. if at this point in time they, being the experts on their business, feel its the best thing to do, then theyre probably right and youre probably wrong.
This is, of course, an early admission of failure with regard to the Apple Watch.
This is, of course, just a load of bollocks which you are passing off as fact when it's really just, like, your opinion, man.
It will make it trickier to figure out but we know the iPod sales this year and they are in decline so no more than 2.9m units. Apple TV is around 2m units per quarter. Beats headphones apparently sold 15-20m units in 7 years so quarterly units could be below 1m units but they probably grew sales in more recent years so if we assume 50% of sales were in the last year, that's 2.5m units per quarter. They might not lump subsidiary sales into that group but they'll have to report those somehow.
Apple Watch will be accessory unit sales minus 2.5-3m iPods, 2m Apple TVs and 2.5m Beats. I think 2.5m units per quarter for the Watch is reasonable so total accessory units just under 10m.
The most significant declaration I see here is not an expectation of failure, it's a declaration that the Apple Watch is an accessory. Some people want to believe the smartwatch is the next big thing like the iPhone and iPad were but they're really optional extras to boost revenue like Beats headphones. It's maximizing revenue by capitalising on their existing userbase, same with ?Pay, same with making their own iOS device cases, same with their iCloud services. The headline categories of the phone, tablet and Mac are what draw people in.