tbell wrote: »
Since Spotlight uses Bing it seems likely Apple has to work with Microsoft.
abeliefsystem wrote: »
Both Spotlight and Microsoft Bing Live search on Windows catalogues your device to gain an advantage over Google.
I expect that the more data they have on you the more relevant the search and thus selling iAds etc gets more lucrative.
There is certainly no such thing as a free lunch, even with a premium cost device. Though the customer always seems part of that lunch menu.
Yahoo Search actually uses Bing Search. Even though it's MSFT sh*t, way better than Scroogle (actually, incredibly, works better than Scroogle, too!)!
What, use Google to search your HARD DISK??? Are you nuts?
A feature like this should be opt in, not opt out.
I agree. Spotlight has always been a local disk search, so if they are changing it to be an Internet search too, they should ask you. They should display a popup the first time you use it, asking "Do you want Spotlight to search only your local computer or the Internet too?" and then it should remember that setting. They shouldn't just automatically start sending the names of files you are looking for to Microsoft.
I agree. Amazing how many people read "desktop search" and thought "internet search" as if they have never used Spotlight before. Don't these idiots even own a Mac?
digitalclips wrote: »
That struck me as odd, why not Yahoo rather than the old enemy? In fact Apple should have its own search, perhaps by buying Yahoo ... unless of course Tim is thinking of buying the carcass of Microshit one day?
lostkiwi wrote: »
Now let's see,,, who owns WaPo again?
Mr Bezos you say?
Surely there can't be any ulterior motive behind this fact-lite click bait....
The most interesting thing about this is each Spotlight search that replaces a Google search has the potential to improve your online privacy.
Apple's explanation seems reasonable. I'm satisfied that this is not being used to profile This is used to provide and probably provide a degree of context for follow up searches. I trust Apple not to abuse this because their business model is not dependent on it.
It's the profiling and tracking between websites that I find the most creepy. I recommend everyone install the Ghostery extension, block everything and navigate to some well-known websites. It's a horror show. No consent obtained and no obvious mechanism to have it explicitly withdrawn.
Thanks for the info.
By visiting appleinsider you are being tracked by google, facebook and others. Unless you are blocking trackers with something like ghostery.
The "valueclick media" tracker here on appleinsiders home page says its "advertising, behavior tracking, lead management". Sounds lovely doesn't it?
Look at where the ads on this site are from, most look like they are google ads to me. So if you don't like using google, either don't come to appleinsider or turn on ghostery.
I am not picking on appleinsider, rather using them as a familiar example to illustrate how silly it is to throw apple under the bus here.
When its apple who phones home, people freak out. I don't get it. Should be opt-in, but this is blown way out of proportion.
"Fuller has written a Python script that can accomplish those tasks."
Nobody expects the Spotlight Inquisition.
flaneur wrote: »
Are you suggesting that this is why he owns the Washington Post, and that it has been shown in the e-book case that he has a relationship with the "justice" department?
Imagine the value of a back door into Amazon's servers, but of course that would never be allowed to happen . . .
I think as good citizens we have to reject this line of thinking.
lostkiwi wrote: »
Quite so. Thank you for the correction, citizen.
Better yet; just deactivate those privacy-intruding options.
Why? Further, Apple does ask you when you set up your device whether you want to opt in to location services.
You see in some ways this is what makes Apple a better company then Google and Microsoft. Apple is perfectly happy with teaming up with others to provide its users' service. It doesn't have to own every service it provides.
Further, why team up with Yahoo, when Yahoo uses Bing's search engine? Bing also is a good search engine for 90 percent of what I imagine people search for. It isn't as good as Google for more technical stuff, but that will change.