Apple responds to Spotlight Suggestions 'backlash,' says personal data collection limited

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  • Reply 61 of 70
    tbelltbell Posts: 3,146member
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    Originally Posted by brlawyer View Post

     

     

    Better yet; just deactivate those privacy-intruding options.

     

    Bam, done.


     

     

    That sort of makes it hard for some features to work like suggested searches that rely on sharing your search history.

  • Reply 62 of 70
    tbelltbell Posts: 3,146member
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    Originally Posted by aBeliefSystem View Post



    Nah, Apple don't sell iAds, honest gov.

     

     

    It does, but only for iTunes Radio and for Apps. It doesn't for search, email, etc.

  • Reply 63 of 70
    ipenipen Posts: 410member
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    Originally Posted by cali View Post



    Dont like it? use google!!



    Hahaha!!

    You mean Apple=Google?

    Best to just get the app to report fake info.

  • Reply 64 of 70
    flaneur wrote: »

    How's the immigration policy down there lately?

    Well, it depends who you ask.
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    Just my 2 cents...
  • Reply 65 of 70
    malaxmalax Posts: 1,598member
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    Originally Posted by fridgefreezer View Post

     

    Its underhand. Its sneaky. Its an invasion of my privacy. Its none of their business. To turn it off I have to go to TWO places. Safari and System Preferences.


    That's because they are two completely different things.  You realize that when you type something in the Safari address bar and hit enter that your data is sent out to the internet, right?  Unchecking that box in Safari just stops that at the keystroke level.  I don't know why anyone would turn that off in Safari for privacy reasons.  Unless you're in the habit of typing fragments of sensitive things into the Safari address bar and then clearing it out without hitting enter just for fun.

  • Reply 66 of 70
    malaxmalax Posts: 1,598member
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    Originally Posted by aBeliefSystem View Post



    Both Spotlight and Microsoft Bing Live search on Windows catalogues your device to gain an advantage over Google.

    I expect that the more data they have on you the more relevant the search and thus selling iAds etc gets more lucrative.



    There is certainly no such thing as a free lunch, even with a premium cost device. Though the customer always seems part of that lunch menu.

    In Apple's case it is about improving search results, but it is not about iAds.  That's a key difference between Google and Apple.  Unless we think that Tim is lying and hoping he doesn't get caught.

  • Reply 67 of 70
    jexusjexus Posts: 373member
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    Originally Posted by TBell View Post

     

     

    Why?




    If I'm performing a search on the desktop, there is a good chance that I am simply seeking a program or a local file. If I want the internet, I will use a browser or enable an optional internet search function. I don't need my search results cluttered with suggestions.

     

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     Further, Apple does ask you when you set up your device whether you want to opt in to location services.


    Irrelevant. Again, desktop search. I am most likely using it to find local files. I don't need "Location services" to do that. I know everything I search for on the desktop is on my computer, I just may not know exactly where.

     

    Spotlight as a program and the internet functionality is fine. I don't care about that. I just don't want such options enabled by default and shoved into a category(location services) where they should not start off as, don't make much sense, and rather they should become such through user permission.

     

    TLDR: Searching the desktop doesn't need "location services", so they shouldn't be lumped in and functional as such by default.

  • Reply 68 of 70
    malax wrote: »
    In Apple's case it is about improving search results, but it is not about iAds.  That's a key difference between Google and Apple.  Unless we think that Tim is lying and hoping he doesn't get caught.
    And that is why Google ads make money.

    Apple currently is a 'luxury brand' so if they want to stay relevant outside the US whilst keeping their stonking profits then this income stream really matters. Sneakyness works too I bet.
  • Reply 69 of 70
    asciiascii Posts: 5,941member

    There's a website about it now: https://fix-macosx.com

     

    And interestingly Ubuntu, who introduced a similar thing in Ubuntu 12.04 (but they automatically sent your search queries to Amazon, not Microsoft) has now announced they will be making it opt-in as of Ubuntu 15.04. I think opt-in is the right way to go.

  • Reply 70 of 70
    Yes, opt-in is the right way to go but when shove comes to push, it is all about the money.
    Ubuntu needs it far more than Apple so for them, they really need you to opt in to survive.
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