It's interesting that it only seems to be non-gays who espouse the view that it is a choice to be gay. I wonder how many of them were themselves conflicted and made a choice not to be, and then assumed that everyone else must have followed the same pattern.
I've always found that odd myself. Then again I knew from a very young age that I was straight. I never made a choice, I truly was born that way. It just makes sense to me that it would work the same way for gay people too.
That is something i didn't know exisited. I fact I only just saw my own profile today, I never looked at it before other than the brief data I add. I didn't know I had a 'reputation' nor an infringement!
That term 'trolled 'seems to be developing a new meaning around here. Or are you suggesting I am a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people by posting inflammatory extraneous or off-topic messages in an online community such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion [wikipedia]
You also have to forgive someone from a different culture who thinks of health care as a right but paid for as a nation with taxes not risk management run by for profit organizations with share holders. It's all down to what you grow up with I guess.
I left open the possibility that i was being baited into a less than productive discussion. I also left open the possibility that I wasn't.
I left open the possibility that i was being baited into a less than productive discussion. I also left open the possibility that I wasn't.
Half the time it's my English sense of humor ... but no, no attempt to bait. I have enough keeping up with the current discussion and I hate political discussions. Health care was a personal thing for me after i got royally shafted by Mutual of Omaha.
Half the time it's my English sense of humor ... but no, no attempt to bait. I have enough keeping up with the current discussion and I hate political discussions. Health care was a personal thing for me after i got royally shafted by Mutual of Omaha.
Happy you're here and here.
I was brought up with the understanding that insurance is far from the first resort and government is for things that can't be handled by the individual, family or community.
Going from my personal experience, it seems mundane to me that sexual preference is a choice. Have you ever been drunk? It’s amazing how things change then!
More seriously, I remember that, as a boy on the cusp of puberty, sexual preference was a very undefined thing, and I could quite easily see how one could latch onto different desires. Perhaps it’s much simpler for others, but for me, I didn't immediately think that all women were extremely desirable at the first sign of puberty. It was a much gentler, subtler thing.
Happily, I latched onto the good old female bod with its attendant wonders.
To be clear, you were entering into puberty when you made a conscious decision to choose not to be gay?
My life — and I think I can speak or the majority of humans in the world — is very different from yours. Most of us know the general sex we're attracted to as a child even if we don't understand why.
It's interesting that it only seems to be non-gays who espouse the view that it is a choice to be gay. I wonder how many of them were themselves conflicted and made a choice not to be, and then assumed that everyone else must have followed the same pattern.
Has it not occurred to you that people convince themselves and others that they are attracted to particular people because, otherwise, they would be open to criticism? It's much easier for someone to defend themselves with, "Oh, I've always been this way for as long as I can remember" than it is to say, "I wasn't sure who I was attracted to, but eventually seemed to like certain people."
For those saying they knew they were attracted to the opposite sex as a child, I would say, come off it. Boys I played with seemed just as unaware of girls as I did. Girls seemed to be aware of boys at a younger age.
Has it not occurred to you that people convince themselves and others that they are attracted to particular people because, otherwise, they would be open to criticism? It's much easier for someone to defend themselves with, "Oh, I've always been this way for as long as I can remember" than it is to say, "I wasn't sure who I was attracted to, but eventually seemed to like certain people."
No one convinces themselves, they convince others, and your rationale breaks down with the inference that people convince themselves they are homosexual when they are heterosexual.
For those saying they knew they were attracted to the opposite sex as a child, I would say, come off it. Boys I played with seemed just as unaware of girls as I did. Girls seemed to be aware of boys at a younger age.
That might be your problem in accepting this, because I had no choice. My interest in women came by least the time I was in the first grade. The fact that you didn't have any interest in either sex until you hit puberty and had to a make a conscious choice to go with societal norms means are biologically very different people.
Going from my personal experience, it seems mundane to me that sexual preference is a choice. Have you ever been drunk? It’s amazing how things change then!
More seriously, I remember that, as a boy on the cusp of puberty, sexual preference was a very undefined thing, and I could quite easily see how one could latch onto different desires. Perhaps it’s much simpler for others, but for me, I didn't immediately think that all women were extremely desirable at the first sign of puberty. It was a much gentler, subtler thing.
Happily, I latched onto the good old female bod with its attendant wonders.
To be clear, you were entering into puberty when you made a conscious decision to choose not to be gay?
My life — and I think I can speak or the majority of humans in the world — is very different from yours. Most of us know the general sex we're attracted to as a child even if we don't understand why.
It's interesting that it only seems to be non-gays who espouse the view that it is a choice to be gay. I wonder how many of them were themselves conflicted and made a choice not to be, and then assumed that everyone else must have followed the same pattern.
Has it not occurred to you that people convince themselves and others that they are attracted to particular people because, otherwise, they would be open to criticism? It's much easier for someone to defend themselves with, "Oh, I've always been this way for as long as I can remember" than it is to say, "I wasn't sure who I was attracted to, but eventually seemed to like certain people."
For those saying they knew they were attracted to the opposite sex as a child, I would say, come off it. Boys I played with seemed just as unaware of girls as I did. Girls seemed to be aware of boys at a younger age.
I think you just provided a clear supporting data point for my tentative hypothesis.
Interesting that this this 65+ post isn't yet updated. I had thought I had around 30-somethign Thumbs Up in a comments from within the last month but I can't remember what they post would be so let's just say my memory is off, especially if this shows up in the Top 10 list tomorrow.
Oh, I know the names of all my young crushes, which include countless girls on the small and large screen. It's funny, there are girls I've been "in love with" whom I've lived with who ultimately didn't make as long of a lasting impression on me. I know this because I either can't remember their faces or names without a lot of effort.
It's interesting and weird to me, but as soon as you point out their inference about it being a choice for them they get very defensive (if they even respond at all).
Damn I corrected Mea Culpa seconds too late! lol
Wish I'd seen that report two years ago, it would have saved a painful biopsy for no good reason it turned out.:D
I too can remember them all from age 5 through last week, even the four wives. I don't have your non lasting issue, even in three day dates on school trips and cruises. I can't remember where I put the Apple TV remote two minutes ago though. But yes there was no need for any thinking for me, I was drawn to girls i found attractive from the get go. I always had a girl friend, I can't remember a time when i didn't.
The comments about puberty decisions from he who castigates is certainly interesting. I suspect you are on to something there,.
Interesting that this this 65+ post isn't yet updated. I had thought I had around 30-somethign Thumbs Up in a comments from within the last month but I can't remember what they post would be so let's just say my memory is off, especially if this shows up in the Top 10 list tomorrow.
It appears to update daily overnight, rather than in real time.
Also - you can check your own thumbs up posts on your profile page.
Interesting that this this 65+ post isn't yet updated. I had thought I had around 30-somethign Thumbs Up in a comments from within the last month but I can't remember what they post would be so let's just say my memory is off, especially if this shows up in the Top 10 list tomorrow.
We broke AI.
BTW what is the difference between thumbs up and reputation?
I was trying to figure out how to turn on the visibility for that for all users. There’s a... what would you call it, a badge system for users with high/low reputation and levels you could see. The forum would have needed a reboot or whatever to do it, so it never got anywhere.
Thing is, it’s not a reflection of accuracy or anything, just “agreement”.
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BTW what is the difference between thumbs up and reputation?
Same thing. Thumbs-upses count toward reputation. Each thumbs up is weighted depending on who gives it to you. Mods have the most power and for everyone else it’s based on some math involving how many posts they have. I think a single one of mine gives +50 reputation or something.
I was trying to figure out how to turn on the visibility for that for all users. There’s a... what would you call it, a badge system for users with high/low reputation and levels you could see. The forum would have needed a reboot or whatever to do it, so it never got anywhere.
Thing is, it’s not a reflection of accuracy or anything, just “agreement”.
BTW what is the difference between thumbs up and reputation?
Same thing. Thumbs-upses count toward reputation. Each thumbs up is weighted depending on who gives it to you. Mods have the most power and for everyone else it’s based on some math involving how many posts they have. I think a single one of mine gives +50 reputation or something.
I thought the reputation number was just the total of thumbs up received. I didn't realize there was any donor weighting involved.
Interesting that this this 65+ post isn't yet updated. I had thought I had around 30-somethign Thumbs Up in a comments from within the last month but I can't remember what they post would be so let's just say my memory is off, especially if this shows up in the Top 10 list tomorrow.
It's a shame that clicking on the impressive 62 thumb-upper only reveals about 15 names. Must be a limit to the number listed.
Interesting that this this 65+ post isn't yet updated. I had thought I had around 30-somethign Thumbs Up in a comments from within the last month but I can't remember what they post would be so let's just say my memory is off, especially if this shows up in the Top 10 list tomorrow.
We broke AI.
BTW what is the difference between thumbs up and reputation?
I was trying to figure out how to turn on the visibility for that for all users. There’s a... what would you call it, a badge system for users with high/low reputation and levels you could see. The forum would have needed a reboot or whatever to do it, so it never got anywhere.
Thing is, it’s not a reflection of accuracy or anything, just “agreement”.
Same thing. Thumbs-upses count toward reputation. Each thumbs up is weighted depending on who gives it to you. Mods have the most power and for everyone else it’s based on some math involving how many posts they have. I think a single one of mine gives +50 reputation or something.
Thanks i really had never given any thought to any of that. But, see I knew i was right to think you were one of the greatest minds posting on AI
I must ask Soli why he bifurcated.
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It's interesting that it only seems to be non-gays who espouse the view that it is a choice to be gay. I wonder how many of them were themselves conflicted and made a choice not to be, and then assumed that everyone else must have followed the same pattern.
I've always found that odd myself. Then again I knew from a very young age that I was straight. I never made a choice, I truly was born that way. It just makes sense to me that it would work the same way for gay people too.
Only the mods can see others data.
I left open the possibility that i was being baited into a less than productive discussion. I also left open the possibility that I wasn't.
If soli added soli + soliX he'd be king!
Oh where's the fun in that?
Half the time it's my English sense of humor ... but no, no attempt to bait. I have enough keeping up with the current discussion and I hate political discussions. Health care was a personal thing for me after i got royally shafted by Mutual of Omaha.
Happy you're here and here.
I was brought up with the understanding that insurance is far from the first resort and government is for things that can't be handled by the individual, family or community.
Has it not occurred to you that people convince themselves and others that they are attracted to particular people because, otherwise, they would be open to criticism? It's much easier for someone to defend themselves with, "Oh, I've always been this way for as long as I can remember" than it is to say, "I wasn't sure who I was attracted to, but eventually seemed to like certain people."
For those saying they knew they were attracted to the opposite sex as a child, I would say, come off it. Boys I played with seemed just as unaware of girls as I did. Girls seemed to be aware of boys at a younger age.
No one convinces themselves, they convince others, and your rationale breaks down with the inference that people convince themselves they are homosexual when they are heterosexual.
That might be your problem in accepting this, because I had no choice. My interest in women came by least the time I was in the first grade. The fact that you didn't have any interest in either sex until you hit puberty and had to a make a conscious choice to go with societal norms means are biologically very different people.
I think you just provided a clear supporting data point for my tentative hypothesis.
Interesting that this this 65+ post isn't yet updated. I had thought I had around 30-somethign Thumbs Up in a comments from within the last month but I can't remember what they post would be so let's just say my memory is off, especially if this shows up in the Top 10 list tomorrow.
Damn I corrected Mea Culpa seconds too late! lol
Wish I'd seen that report two years ago, it would have saved a painful biopsy for no good reason it turned out.:D
I too can remember them all from age 5 through last week, even the four wives. I don't have your non lasting issue, even in three day dates on school trips and cruises. I can't remember where I put the Apple TV remote two minutes ago though. But yes there was no need for any thinking for me, I was drawn to girls i found attractive from the get go. I always had a girl friend, I can't remember a time when i didn't.
The comments about puberty decisions from he who castigates is certainly interesting. I suspect you are on to something there,.
It appears to update daily overnight, rather than in real time.
Also - you can check your own thumbs up posts on your profile page.
We broke AI.
BTW what is the difference between thumbs up and reputation?
I was trying to figure out how to turn on the visibility for that for all users. There’s a... what would you call it, a badge system for users with high/low reputation and levels you could see. The forum would have needed a reboot or whatever to do it, so it never got anywhere.
Thing is, it’s not a reflection of accuracy or anything, just “agreement”.
Same thing. Thumbs-upses count toward reputation. Each thumbs up is weighted depending on who gives it to you. Mods have the most power and for everyone else it’s based on some math involving how many posts they have. I think a single one of mine gives +50 reputation or something.
I thought the reputation number was just the total of thumbs up received. I didn't realize there was any donor weighting involved.
It's a shame that clicking on the impressive 62 thumb-upper only reveals about 15 names. Must be a limit to the number listed.
Nowt.
Thanks i really had never given any thought to any of that. But, see I knew i was right to think you were one of the greatest minds posting on AI
I must ask Soli why he bifurcated.
I haven't heard that said in many a decade.