Apple to hold investor call for first-time bond offering in euros - report

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  • Reply 61 of 116
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,573member
    I bet a large proportion of Americans would prefer to call the Queen their leader over your current President.

    I strongly doubt that.
  • Reply 62 of 116
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,573member
    Quite possibly accurate.

    But quite probably not.
  • Reply 63 of 116
    Originally Posted by melgross View Post

    You're making a mountain out of a molehill. They don't call their Queen, or their King, the "leader" in the political sense. A moral leader, which gets the monarchy in trouble sometimes, yes. But not political. I don't know why you're having a problem with this.

     

    What’s the point of them; that’s my problem. The monarchy has devolved from absolute to absolutely nothing. Why still call it a monarchy if the monarch doesn’t rule?

     

    The British have more sense of a longer history than we do. Remember that Washington was offered the crown here, after the war, and he declined it.


     

    I don’t see what relevance that has. Washington looked at the idea, saw nothing of value, and stuck with republicanism.

     

    This helps them to remember that.


     

    Sounds like someone needs to skate to where the puck will be, not where it was.

     

  • Reply 64 of 116
    melgross wrote: »
    But quite probably not.

    There's no way to prove or disprove the comment. It was his opinion, that's all.
  • Reply 65 of 116
    Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post

    There's no way to prove or disprove the comment. It was his opinion, that's all.

     

    Certainly it can be proven, through polling.

  • Reply 66 of 116
    Certainly it can be proven, through polling.

    Where's Nate Silver when we need him?
  • Reply 67 of 116
    poochpooch Posts: 768member
    macxpress wrote: »
    I assume they meant partly? Do they even read what they write, or just write and post?

    write and post, according to appleinsider's mike campbell.
  • Reply 68 of 116
    Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post

    Where's Nate Silver when we need him?

     

    Or maybe George Newman.

     

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  • Reply 69 of 116
    fracfrac Posts: 480member
    dnd0ps wrote: »
    If the $ continues to strengthen against European currencies I'd suggest Apple buying England and making it the 51st State. Wales, Scotland and N. Ireland could become Celtica or some new a catchy name. I admit I am unsure of the tax ramifications though.


    XD

    Yeah, it's about time someone got rid of that old hag in Buckingham Palace and installed a republican form of government. Apple Store at Buckingham Palace, anyone?

    WE are not amused.
  • Reply 70 of 116
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,573member
    What’s the point of them; that’s my problem. The monarchy has devolved from absolute to absolutely nothing. Why still call it a monarchy if the monarch doesn’t rule?

    I don’t see what relevance that has. Washington looked at the idea, saw nothing of value, and stuck with republicanism.

    Sounds like someone needs to skate to where the puck will be, not where it was.

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    Seriously, let's just stop this, because you obviously just don't understand the mindset. So even though I exolained it to you, and you can get confirmation in a lot of places, you just don't get it. So let it go. It's not really important.
  • Reply 71 of 116
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,573member
    There's no way to prove or disprove the comment. It was his opinion, that's all.

    So neither of us should have commented, correct?
  • Reply 72 of 116
    Originally Posted by melgross View Post

    Seriously, let's just stop this, because you obviously just don't understand the mindset. So even though I exolained it to you, and you can get confirmation in a lot of places, you just don't get it. So let it go. It's not really important.



    No, I understand what you’re saying, I just don’t understand why people are okay with it.

     

    I also don’t understand why advocating republicanism remains treason while advocating the removal of the monarchy does not. They seem afraid of something.

  • Reply 73 of 116
    knowitallknowitall Posts: 1,648member
    If the $ continues to strengthen against European currencies I'd suggest Apple buying England and making it the 51st State. Wales, Scotland and N. Ireland could become Celtica or some new a catchy name. I admit I am unsure of the tax ramifications though.

    I know it's a joke, and I admit it's a joke, but are you aware of certain historic tensions and a recent voting?
    I suspect it will be a 'kat in de zak'.
  • Reply 74 of 116
    Originally Posted by sog35 View Post

    Its ridiculous that a country gives tens of millions...


     

    Don’t they make a fair bit in tourism?

     

    ...a bunch of people whos only claim to fame is being born from a certain blood line.  Something like that would never fly in the US.  


     

    Hmm.

  • Reply 75 of 116
    knowitallknowitall Posts: 1,648member
    melgross wrote: »
    No, he's wrong, and so are you, if you believe that. The problem in the EU is that taxes are already so high, because people there demand services from their governments that people here would shun, that they can't be lowered, and as a result, when economic times are rough, there is nowhere for governments to go. Stimulus in the EU was very small when compared to what was done here, and the results show that. Germany has been preventing stimulus from occurring.

    In addition to poor connection between EU economics and national interest has kept the EU from moving. As always, EU governments are paralyzed. There is too much push and pull there because of the Parlimentary system which insures that parties that get almost no votes still are mandated seats. In other words, the tail wags the dog over there. We get that here too, but just between two parties, which is simpler.

    The one country there that isn't part of the Eurozone, GB, has done better economically, and they did have much bigger stimulus packages.

    Not so, the pound is directly tied to the euro, so that doesn't make a difference. Also Germany is doing much better than England, some other countries too.
    It depends when you look, a short while ago England was nearly bankrupt like Portugal and Greece.

    Also the reason taxes aren't lowered has nothing to do with a demand for services from the government. In fact people demand less services and less government personnel, but to no avail.
    The real reason behind this is that we have no real democratie, we live in a tax dictatorship. We are not protected by law not even by human rights. When you protest you ruin your live so almost no one does that.
    The only thing government over here are afraid of is revolution and they tune the tax in such a way to not get over that line.
    The European Parliament is installed to give local governments an excuse for very unpopular actions, because it's Europ that wants it, noting to do about that.
  • Reply 76 of 116
    Originally Posted by knowitall View Post

    It depends when you look, a short while ago England was nearly bankrupt like Portugal and Greece.

     

    What happens if Italy falls?

  • Reply 77 of 116
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    Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post



    As 'anant' suggests (above), economics are inseparable from politics because ....

    That is absolutely not what I stated above.

     

    I said that some people can't. I find it to be a particular affliction on the Right.

     

    (Btw, Stockman is nowhere close to being a serious economist. Next thing, you'll be telling me that Art Laffer is....)

  • Reply 78 of 116
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

    What happens if Italy falls?


    Nothing.

     

    It has been on crutches for a while....

  • Reply 79 of 116
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

     

    That is absolutely not what I stated above.

     

    I said that some people can't. I find it to be a particular affliction on the Right.

     

    (Btw, Stockman is nowhere close to being a serious economist. Next thing, you'll be telling me that Art Laffer is....)




    Stockman isn't a "serious" economist? Really? Tell me more.

     

    As I recall events, he told the truth during his stay in the Reagan administration and they fired him.

  • Reply 80 of 116
    knowitallknowitall Posts: 1,648member
    What happens if Italy falls?

    At this moment GB wants out of the EU and Merkel (from Germany) seems to agree.
    Several other countries want out but the governments don't let them and refuse a referendum.
    Italie is a big country and very important, maybe it will split up in a north and south (the north has far more industries).
    But it's hard to say what will happen to Europe.
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