Listen : Apple's stock is simply doing a gap up and will eventually start rolling up and down between support and resistance. It will be very hard to determine what that is until we see a pullback (for a breather) and a roll or two. Stocks never just keep rising or falling in a straight line for long. What is happening right now is the experts are reassessing their positions (i/e. running the numbers on projected low and high earnings) and loading up based on those before the next trend develops be it up, sideways or perhaps down - for 3 rolls. Looking at the chart I think the next top will be about 125 or so and will pull back down to 110-115 perhaps, The old resistance which was around 110 becomes the new support and a new top probably around 120 or 125 will develop. The stock is hugely overbought and of course Apple is doing a massive buyback which is causing the stock to to rise too. After this consolidation phase the Jan earnings initially and Apple watch will drive the stock up /down in 2015. Right now there is a lot of greed in the stock going on. I unloaded 33% of my position at $115 (+90% gain) . I will wait and see if it goes back down again. Also the US market is way overbought and the world economy is teetering at -ve growth all except the US. So I wouldn't get too greedy if I were you! It;s better to take some profit off the table than wait too long and lose because you held on to long. All this talk of trillion Dollar company is just nonsense, great for the talking heads, but is not going to happen any time soon, certainly not without real quantitative earnings results and margins, otherwise it's pure speculation.
Listen :
It's HIGH TIME for Every Sovereign Country on This Planet to ABOLISH & EXPEL Market Mal-Practice " Short Sell " For GOOD !
Short Sell is Main Culprit and Cause of Distortion of Modern Capitalism and ALLOW VILLAINS TO CONDUCT THEIR WRONGDOINGS !
As Long As Stock Price Fractuates According to Natural Course of Real Sell & Buy Transactions, There's NO PROBLEM.
But Nowaday IT IS NOT THE CASE.
There's SHENANIGANS?Like YOU? in The Market !
Market is Rigged !
Do You Know MORE THAN 90% of High Frequency Traders' - Such As KCG ( Getco & Night Capital Merger ) and Vertu - Orders Are FAKE !
KCG Traders Have Created A False Appearance of Buy- or Sell-Side Pressure.
Once Their Orders Were Filled, the KCG Traders Would Then Immediately Cancel Their Orders That Had Only Been Designed To Create The False Appearance of Market Activity. As A Result of This Improper High Frequency Trading Strategy, KCG's Traders Obtained Advantageous Prices That Otherwise Would Not Have Been Available To Them On More Than100,000 Occasions.
KCG Entered Numerous Layered, Non-Bona Fide Market Moving Orders To Generate Selling or Buying Interest In Specific Stocks Such As " AAPL ".
By Entering The Non-Bona Fide Orders, Often In Substantial Size Relative To A Stock's Overall Legitimate Pending Order Volume, KCG traders Created A False Appearance of Buy- or Sell-Side Pressure.
This Trading Strategy Induced Other Market Participants to Enter Orders to Execute Against Limit Orders Previously Entered by the KCG Traders. Once Their Orders Were Filled, the KCG Traders Would Then Immediately Cancel Orders That Had Only Been Designed to Create The False Appearance of Market Activity. As A Result of This Improper High Frequency Trading Strategy, KCG's Traders Obtained Advantageous Prices that Otherwise Would Not Have Been Aavailable to Them on More Than 100,000 Occasions.
And, Of Course, Behind The Noted High Frequency Traders There Exist Villains Such As Numerous Banks, Hedge Funds etc.
As Long as " Short Sell " is Allowed As A Normal Practice in The Market, VILLAINS Always Try to Manipulate The Market.
We've Seen The Most Atrocious Case of Stock Manipulation in The Movement of AAPL Since Sept. 2012 to Mid-Term of 2014.
After AAPL Hitting All Time High ?Then?of $705 on Sept. 12 in 2012 on Its Way to $1,000, Its Stock Price LITERALLY Collapsed Having Plunged More Than 44% to $390.53 on Apr. 19 in 2013 WITHOUT ANY CONCRETE PROPER REASONS TO EXPLAIN IT, Despite Each Quarter's Renewing Breathtaking and Jaw-dropping RECORD BREAKING EARNING CALLS !
Analysts ?Many of Whom Are Lackeys of VILLAINS? and Pundits?SAME !? Were Desperate to Cover Up and Justify VILLAIN's WRONGDOINGS Saying that AAPL's Drastic Plunge Was Caused Because " Apple Will Be Forced to Drive Sales by Lowering Its Prices And in Turn Hampering Its Profits.
NEVER HAD Apple BEEN FORCED to DRIVE SALES by LOWERING THEIR PRICES ONCE !
COMPLETELY FALSE and IRRELEVANT ACCUSATION For The SAKE of VILLAIN's MANIPULATING AAPL !
To Our Surprise, The Share of AAPL Had Declined MORE THAN 44% from Its Peak and Had Been MISERABLY Hoverring Under $500 For So Long WITHOUT ANY PROPER REASONING Despite Every Quarter's Renewing RECORD BREAKING Earning Call IN CAHOOTS of VILLAINS' Drawn Scenario of " AAPL Niagara FALL Plunge Scheme "
It's HIGH TIME for ALL THE NORMAL HEALTHY LONG-TERM AAPL OWNERS ALL OVER THE WORLD to Be AWAKENING and TAKE ACTION In Doing " CLASS ACTION SUIT Against High Frequency Traders Such As KCG and Against FINRA When It's Needed !
It's HIGH TIME for Every Sovereign Country on This Planet to ABOLISH & EXPEL Market Mal-Practice " Short Sell " For GOOD !
Thanks for the lecture and standing on YOUR soapbox: I have heard your rant before.
All I'm saying is use it to your advantage the little guy armed with some basic facts about how stocks roll can use it to buy and sell options and make some money
Even if the high frequency traders are manipulating stocks once we know about it we can ride long and trade with them. you seem quite angry really.
$200 × 5,870,000,000 shares = $1,174,000,000,000 = $1.2 Trillion dollar market cap. That seems highly unlikely in a span of about 7 months.
I have to agree, unless some unexpected massive news out of China accelerates things into a slingshot around the sun I have trouble imagining $150 by the end of next year.
I have to agree, unless some unexpected massive news out of China accelerates things into a slingshot around the sun I have trouble imagining $150 by the end of next year.
I eagerly look forward to being proven wrong.
I'm not sure I want to be prove wrong here. I'd think that nearly doubling the value of the stock in 7 months to the tune of $1.2 trillion would mean AAPL is simply over-infalted. How many billions in ?Watch sales will Apple have to make in the first 3 months for that to a reasonable market cap?
Hameta had an agenda, probably was a trader for knight before he got fired. He is like a stuck record repeatedly copy and pasting his angry diatribe when he gets the chance?
Even if they sell 40 million watches in first year with say about 40% margin that 350/2 times 40'000'000 -> less than 7billion hardly makes a dent really could only move stock 10%. That only 10 points and stock is up about that already, if any weak numbers it will be back around $100 pretty quickly. The problem these moron forget when talking about $150 and up is they forget the law of large numbers there simply isn't the money in the market to generate another 400 billion in share purchases for one company and the float is probably not enough either but I can't be bothered calculating it
That "law of large numbers" is a nonsensical misapplication of an unrelated statistical concept. AAPL should be valued on expectations of its current assets, including good will, and potential for future revenues and profit margins, based on all current and anticipated product lines, including productive investments. Far from limiting the ceiling, such an analysis could lead to a valuation well above the current P/E ratio. If enough people with money think the stock is worth $200. a share, it will soon be priced at $200. a share. The calculation has to do with world demand for Apple products--you don't have to invest $400 billion or anything like it in AAPL to drive the price up, just run the numbers and re-imagine what the stock is worth.
Looks like it’s going to be a monster quarter but some are correctly pointing out that having a single product be responsible for the vast majority of your business is a bit scary. Obviously the iPhone has a LOT of growth left in it but Apple must be thinking ahead to the future. The executive team are not stupid and I think we will see diversification into other products and markets. I’m not sure what those products and markets might be but I’ll let Tim and Co. figure that out.
Well I'll give you at least three of the first one is online payments via NFC the second one is the watch and the third one I would be guessing eventually will be television and perhaps the third the fourth one will be wearables in terms of health and stuff like that I think
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Listen :
It's HIGH TIME for Every Sovereign Country on This Planet to ABOLISH & EXPEL Market Mal-Practice " Short Sell " For GOOD !
Short Sell is Main Culprit and Cause of Distortion of Modern Capitalism and ALLOW VILLAINS TO CONDUCT THEIR WRONGDOINGS !
As Long As Stock Price Fractuates According to Natural Course of Real Sell & Buy Transactions, There's NO PROBLEM.
But Nowaday IT IS NOT THE CASE.
There's SHENANIGANS?Like YOU? in The Market !
Market is Rigged !
Do You Know MORE THAN 90% of High Frequency Traders' - Such As KCG ( Getco & Night Capital Merger ) and Vertu - Orders Are FAKE !
KCG Traders Have Created A False Appearance of Buy- or Sell-Side Pressure.
Once Their Orders Were Filled, the KCG Traders Would Then Immediately Cancel Their Orders That Had Only Been Designed To Create The False Appearance of Market Activity. As A Result of This Improper High Frequency Trading Strategy, KCG's Traders Obtained Advantageous Prices That Otherwise Would Not Have Been Available To Them On More Than100,000 Occasions.
KCG Entered Numerous Layered, Non-Bona Fide Market Moving Orders To Generate Selling or Buying Interest In Specific Stocks Such As " AAPL ".
By Entering The Non-Bona Fide Orders, Often In Substantial Size Relative To A Stock's Overall Legitimate Pending Order Volume, KCG traders Created A False Appearance of Buy- or Sell-Side Pressure.
This Trading Strategy Induced Other Market Participants to Enter Orders to Execute Against Limit Orders Previously Entered by the KCG Traders. Once Their Orders Were Filled, the KCG Traders Would Then Immediately Cancel Orders That Had Only Been Designed to Create The False Appearance of Market Activity. As A Result of This Improper High Frequency Trading Strategy, KCG's Traders Obtained Advantageous Prices that Otherwise Would Not Have Been Aavailable to Them on More Than 100,000 Occasions.
And, Of Course, Behind The Noted High Frequency Traders There Exist Villains Such As Numerous Banks, Hedge Funds etc.
As Long as " Short Sell " is Allowed As A Normal Practice in The Market, VILLAINS Always Try to Manipulate The Market.
We've Seen The Most Atrocious Case of Stock Manipulation in The Movement of AAPL Since Sept. 2012 to Mid-Term of 2014.
After AAPL Hitting All Time High ?Then?of $705 on Sept. 12 in 2012 on Its Way to $1,000, Its Stock Price LITERALLY Collapsed Having Plunged More Than 44% to $390.53 on Apr. 19 in 2013 WITHOUT ANY CONCRETE PROPER REASONS TO EXPLAIN IT, Despite Each Quarter's Renewing Breathtaking and Jaw-dropping RECORD BREAKING EARNING CALLS !
Analysts ?Many of Whom Are Lackeys of VILLAINS? and Pundits?SAME !? Were Desperate to Cover Up and Justify VILLAIN's WRONGDOINGS Saying that AAPL's Drastic Plunge Was Caused Because " Apple Will Be Forced to Drive Sales by Lowering Its Prices And in Turn Hampering Its Profits.
But That Has Been ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE !
VILLAIN's " IMAGINING & FABRICATING THING " !!!!!!
Apple is NOT Such CHEAP MANUFACTURER As Samsung.
NEVER HAD Apple BEEN FORCED to DRIVE SALES by LOWERING THEIR PRICES ONCE !
COMPLETELY FALSE and IRRELEVANT ACCUSATION For The SAKE of VILLAIN's MANIPULATING AAPL !
To Our Surprise, The Share of AAPL Had Declined MORE THAN 44% from Its Peak and Had Been MISERABLY Hoverring Under $500 For So Long WITHOUT ANY PROPER REASONING Despite Every Quarter's Renewing RECORD BREAKING Earning Call IN CAHOOTS of VILLAINS' Drawn Scenario of " AAPL Niagara FALL Plunge Scheme "
It's HIGH TIME for ALL THE NORMAL HEALTHY LONG-TERM AAPL OWNERS ALL OVER THE WORLD to Be AWAKENING and TAKE ACTION In Doing " CLASS ACTION SUIT Against High Frequency Traders Such As KCG and Against FINRA When It's Needed !
Cool.
Listen :
It's HIGH TIME for Every Sovereign Country on This Planet to ABOLISH & EXPEL Market Mal-Practice " Short Sell " For GOOD !
I love you and have missed you.
I have to agree, unless some unexpected massive news out of China accelerates things into a slingshot around the sun I have trouble imagining $150 by the end of next year.
I eagerly look forward to being proven wrong.
I'm not sure I want to be prove wrong here. I'd think that nearly doubling the value of the stock in 7 months to the tune of $1.2 trillion would mean AAPL is simply over-infalted. How many billions in ?Watch sales will Apple have to make in the first 3 months for that to a reasonable market cap?
That "law of large numbers" is a nonsensical misapplication of an unrelated statistical concept. AAPL should be valued on expectations of its current assets, including good will, and potential for future revenues and profit margins, based on all current and anticipated product lines, including productive investments. Far from limiting the ceiling, such an analysis could lead to a valuation well above the current P/E ratio. If enough people with money think the stock is worth $200. a share, it will soon be priced at $200. a share. The calculation has to do with world demand for Apple products--you don't have to invest $400 billion or anything like it in AAPL to drive the price up, just run the numbers and re-imagine what the stock is worth.