I'm actually a little disappointed with iOS 8 on my 5c. It seems to lag a little, sometimes does not register touch, lock screen music controls don't respond at times and other little things like that.
The phone rings and vibrates a split second longer after you take the call. I may have been spoilt silly by the Apple devices, but these small things are really irritating.
What's really funny about OS share is the Android Developer Dashboard. They always post results for the previous 7 days, but haven't updated their chart since Nov 3rd.
I guess they don't want to show a chart where Lollipop isn't registering (since Google doesn't show any version under 1%). Which makes me wonder when will Google decide to start updating their chart again.
Why did any device with an A5 chip get iOS 8 if it performs that poorly on it? A user shouldn't have to shell out for a new device or jailbreak because a software update made using their phone a worse experience. That's on Apple not the user.
Because Apple is in a peculiar spot now selling very old hardware that will not be supported after the next gen iteration with software in any kind of way because apple doesnt support old IOS versions and your not going to be able to upgrade. This will get really interesting when there's a large number of "quite new" devices that don't get any kind of security updates. This will probably be of high interest to cyber criminals.
It sure looks to me like Iphone 4S and Ipad 2 wont get any software upgrades from now on. This means that people buying eg ipad2 near its discontinuation (March 18, 2014) ipone 4S (discontinued September 9, 2014) will really not have a device thats software supported for any "meaningfull" time.
I think Apple should make bug/exploit fixes to the last old major newest versions for some time to come after newer major version is released (this would mean now ios 7.1) but apple isn't doing this.
I just hope that IOS will not become like android in regard to malware....
Because Apple is in a peculiar spot now selling very old hardware that will not be supported after the next gen iteration with software in any kind of way because apple doesnt support old IOS versions and your not going to be able to upgrade. This will get really interesting when there's a large number of "quite new" devices that don't get any kind of security updates. This will probably be of high interest to cyber criminals.
It sure looks to me like Iphone 4S and Ipad 2 wont get any software upgrades from now on. This means that people buying eg ipad2 near its discontinuation (March 18, 2014) ipone 4S (discontinued September 9, 2014) will really not have a device thats software supported for any "meaningfull" time.
I think Apple should make bug/exploit fixes to the last old major newest versions for some time to come after newer major version is released (this would mean now ios 7.1) but apple isn't doing this.
I just hope that IOS will not become like android in regard to malware....
They'll do updates if there's a major issue and the device in question can't get the latest software but if the device can you'll be forced to update. FaceTime is a good example. I have a friend who's still running iOS 6 on her iPhone 5 and she can't use FaceTime. She'd have to upgrade to iOS 8 for it to work again.
The problem is many customers don't care about performance. They just care about ownership of Apple products at the lowest price. Go look at the Asian markets for proof of this.
iOS 8 works like a charm on earlier devices. It just doesn't work fast. <span style="line-height:1.4em;">However, many people don't give a damn about fast and Apple is catering to that rather large category when they do this.</span>
Having customers on the latest, most secure software, is probably also preferable for both those customers as well as Apple. If performance was important to these people then they would have upgraded their hardware instead of running a phone many generations old.
If having a fast device is an issue, then don't upgrade before reviewing the possible effect on your device.
All bases are covered here. Updates are not enforced but are decided by the customer who's responsibility it is to know the effects. <span style="line-height:1.4em;">Security is (rightly) given the priority, with the speed freaks getting what they want in the traditional way - by spending money.</span>
Oh man something with lots of lag would drive me crazy. I thought that only existed in Android world.
They'll do updates if there's a major issue and the device in question can't get the latest software but if the device can you'll be forced to update. FaceTime is a good example. I have a friend who's still running iOS 6 on her iPhone 5 and she can't use FaceTime. She'd have to upgrade to iOS 8 for it to work again.
I stand by my view and you need to prove me wrong. Give me an example of vulnerability patches to any other major IOS version than what is currently in production. Apple has _never_ _ever_ asfar as I know patched older ios versions for any reasons.
Of course iOS 8 is back on track, a lot of people were waiting for it to be jailbroken. Now it is, they have updated.
I just did my 3 iPads for that reason. Nothing to do with piracy for me, I just need them to do things they aren't supposed to.
Removing ads from YouTube (so google don't get any money from me), Youtube HD over 3G/4G, download from the app store over 3G/4G even when the app over over the size limit, putting videos on the iPad and playing them, no matter what file format they are. cleaning up all the unnecessary stuff in the background etc.
I will hold my hands up and say I also have Move Box but I only watch The Big Bang Theory the day after it is shown in America but in my defence, I preorder the DVD so it's not like I'm watching it free, i'm just watching it 4 months early.
I stand by my view and you need to prove me wrong. Give me an example of vulnerability patches to any other major IOS version than what is currently in production. Apple has _never_ _ever_ asfar as I know patched older ios versions for any reasons.
By what measure you using the term older iOS version and vulnerability? There are many examples so I'm wondering why these don't count:
iOS 1.1.5 came out after iOS 2.0.
iOS 3.3.1 came out after OS 4.0.
iOS 3.3.2 came out after iOS 4.0.1, and on the same day as 4.0.2.
iOS 6.1.5 came out after 7.0, 7.0.1, 7.0.2, 7.0.3, and on the same day as 7.0.4.
iOS 6.1.6 came out after 7.0, 7.0.1, 7.0.2, 7.0.3, 7.0.4 7.0.5, and on the same day as 7.0.6.
I will hold my hands up and say I also have Move Box but I only watch The Big Bang Theory the day after it is shown in America but in my defence, I preorder the DVD so it's not like I'm watching it free, i'm just watching it 4 months early.
Wimpy's ol' "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today"
Good lord. The "b-b-but Canada has free healthcare" crowd failed to mention that little gem.
No such thing as a free lunch.
Once you paid your health insurance and education in the US, your behind Canada in the pocketbook. So, hey. BTW, its not like your paying 20% income tax in California or NY State... Your closer to 40% than 20% that's for sure (I lived many years in California). Also, income tax is quite progressive in Canada, many pay next to nothing nothing (0-10%) because they're low income and still get health care and loads of other services.
Of course iOS 8 is back on track, a lot of people were waiting for it to be jailbroken. Now it is, they have updated.
I just did my 3 iPads for that reason. Nothing to do with piracy for me, I just need them to do things they aren't supposed to.
Removing ads from YouTube (so google don't get any money from me), Youtube HD over 3G/4G, download from the app store over 3G/4G even when the app over over the size limit, putting videos on the iPad and playing them, no matter what file format they are. cleaning up all the unnecessary stuff in the background etc.
I will hold my hands up and say I also have Move Box but I only watch The Big Bang Theory the day after it is shown in America but in my defence, I preorder the DVD so it's not like I'm watching it free, i'm just watching it 4 months early.
Probably less than 0.1% of people jailbreak, so I doubt it impacts IOS adoption in any way. Even on Android, most people don't root it; I'd say less than 2% do. BTW, 8.1.1 closes all the current jailbreak on 8.
They'll do updates if there's a major issue and the device in question can't get the latest software but if the device can you'll be forced to update. FaceTime is a good example. I have a friend who's still running iOS 6 on her iPhone 5 and she can't use FaceTime. She'd have to upgrade to iOS 8 for it to work again.
Since IOS 8 works fine on 5, that's her choice. Not sure how Apple can be blamed for that. I'm guessing they changed the protocol, backend in such a way that the IOS 6 version couldn't function with other Iphone users with other versions (95% of Iphone users it seems).
It isn't free. Here in the province of BC, I pay a medical service premium of $69.25 a month. Granted it isn't the crazy premiums Americans pay but free, it is not. That's on top of the income taxes we pay.
Because Apple is in a peculiar spot now selling very old hardware that will not be supported after the next gen iteration with software in any kind of way because apple doesnt support old IOS versions and your not going to be able to upgrade. This will get really interesting when there's a large number of "quite new" devices that don't get any kind of security updates. This will probably be of high interest to cyber criminals.
It sure looks to me like Iphone 4S and Ipad 2 wont get any software upgrades from now on. This means that people buying eg ipad2 near its discontinuation (March 18, 2014) ipone 4S (discontinued September 9, 2014) will really not have a device thats software supported for any "meaningfull" time.
I think Apple should make bug/exploit fixes to the last old major newest versions for some time to come after newer major version is released (this would mean now ios 7.1) but apple isn't doing this.
I just hope that IOS will not become like android in regard to malware....
"It sure looks to me like Iphone 4S and Ipad 2 wont get any software upgrades from now on."
Nor should they. I still agree with Rogifan that those devices shouldn't have received the iOS 8 update. This time next year it would be smart for Apple to move to an all-retina all-64 bit line-up for all of their iOS devices.
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I'm actually a little disappointed with iOS 8 on my 5c. It seems to lag a little, sometimes does not register touch, lock screen music controls don't respond at times and other little things like that.
The phone rings and vibrates a split second longer after you take the call. I may have been spoilt silly by the Apple devices, but these small things are really irritating.
I'm curious which province you live in. To be paying a combined rate of 40% you must live in the Atlantic provinces and/or be making 6 figures plus.
I make just over 100K and my combined provincial/federal is around 27%. Still a good chunk, but a lot lower than 40%.
I guess they don't want to show a chart where Lollipop isn't registering (since Google doesn't show any version under 1%). Which makes me wonder when will Google decide to start updating their chart again.
Why did any device with an A5 chip get iOS 8 if it performs that poorly on it? A user shouldn't have to shell out for a new device or jailbreak because a software update made using their phone a worse experience. That's on Apple not the user.
Because Apple is in a peculiar spot now selling very old hardware that will not be supported after the next gen iteration with software in any kind of way because apple doesnt support old IOS versions and your not going to be able to upgrade. This will get really interesting when there's a large number of "quite new" devices that don't get any kind of security updates. This will probably be of high interest to cyber criminals.
It sure looks to me like Iphone 4S and Ipad 2 wont get any software upgrades from now on. This means that people buying eg ipad2 near its discontinuation (March 18, 2014) ipone 4S (discontinued September 9, 2014) will really not have a device thats software supported for any "meaningfull" time.
I think Apple should make bug/exploit fixes to the last old major newest versions for some time to come after newer major version is released (this would mean now ios 7.1) but apple isn't doing this.
I just hope that IOS will not become like android in regard to malware....
They'll do updates if there's a major issue and the device in question can't get the latest software but if the device can you'll be forced to update. FaceTime is a good example. I have a friend who's still running iOS 6 on her iPhone 5 and she can't use FaceTime. She'd have to upgrade to iOS 8 for it to work again.
Oh man something with lots of lag would drive me crazy. I thought that only existed in Android world.
They'll do updates if there's a major issue and the device in question can't get the latest software but if the device can you'll be forced to update. FaceTime is a good example. I have a friend who's still running iOS 6 on her iPhone 5 and she can't use FaceTime. She'd have to upgrade to iOS 8 for it to work again.
I stand by my view and you need to prove me wrong. Give me an example of vulnerability patches to any other major IOS version than what is currently in production. Apple has _never_ _ever_ asfar as I know patched older ios versions for any reasons.
I really wish I had not updated my 4S to iOS 8. It is now horribly slow, and key functionality is severely degraded. Is there any way to go back?
Good to know because I think about update my iPhone 4S
Of course iOS 8 is back on track, a lot of people were waiting for it to be jailbroken. Now it is, they have updated.
I just did my 3 iPads for that reason. Nothing to do with piracy for me, I just need them to do things they aren't supposed to.
Removing ads from YouTube (so google don't get any money from me), Youtube HD over 3G/4G, download from the app store over 3G/4G even when the app over over the size limit, putting videos on the iPad and playing them, no matter what file format they are. cleaning up all the unnecessary stuff in the background etc.
I will hold my hands up and say I also have Move Box but I only watch The Big Bang Theory the day after it is shown in America but in my defence, I preorder the DVD so it's not like I'm watching it free, i'm just watching it 4 months early.
By what measure you using the term older iOS version and vulnerability? There are many examples so I'm wondering why these don't count:
Wimpy's ol' "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today"
Good lord. The "b-b-but Canada has free healthcare" crowd failed to mention that little gem.
No such thing as a free lunch.
Once you paid your health insurance and education in the US, your behind Canada in the pocketbook. So, hey. BTW, its not like your paying 20% income tax in California or NY State... Your closer to 40% than 20% that's for sure (I lived many years in California). Also, income tax is quite progressive in Canada, many pay next to nothing nothing (0-10%) because they're low income and still get health care and loads of other services.
By what measure you using the term older iOS version and vulnerability? There are many examples so I'm wondering why these don't count:
Its great when somone like Habi is so wrong :-). BTW, I'm one of those on 6.1.6 on my 3GS. Still chugging (with a new battery).
Of course iOS 8 is back on track, a lot of people were waiting for it to be jailbroken. Now it is, they have updated.
I just did my 3 iPads for that reason. Nothing to do with piracy for me, I just need them to do things they aren't supposed to.
Removing ads from YouTube (so google don't get any money from me), Youtube HD over 3G/4G, download from the app store over 3G/4G even when the app over over the size limit, putting videos on the iPad and playing them, no matter what file format they are. cleaning up all the unnecessary stuff in the background etc.
I will hold my hands up and say I also have Move Box but I only watch The Big Bang Theory the day after it is shown in America but in my defence, I preorder the DVD so it's not like I'm watching it free, i'm just watching it 4 months early.
Probably less than 0.1% of people jailbreak, so I doubt it impacts IOS adoption in any way. Even on Android, most people don't root it; I'd say less than 2% do. BTW, 8.1.1 closes all the current jailbreak on 8.
They'll do updates if there's a major issue and the device in question can't get the latest software but if the device can you'll be forced to update. FaceTime is a good example. I have a friend who's still running iOS 6 on her iPhone 5 and she can't use FaceTime. She'd have to upgrade to iOS 8 for it to work again.
Since IOS 8 works fine on 5, that's her choice. Not sure how Apple can be blamed for that. I'm guessing they changed the protocol, backend in such a way that the IOS 6 version couldn't function with other Iphone users with other versions (95% of Iphone users it seems).
Apple are doing too much.
I've not had any issues with it on my 5.
holy hell
no wonder you get free medical in Canada
It isn't free. Here in the province of BC, I pay a medical service premium of $69.25 a month. Granted it isn't the crazy premiums Americans pay but free, it is not. That's on top of the income taxes we pay.
Because Apple is in a peculiar spot now selling very old hardware that will not be supported after the next gen iteration with software in any kind of way because apple doesnt support old IOS versions and your not going to be able to upgrade. This will get really interesting when there's a large number of "quite new" devices that don't get any kind of security updates. This will probably be of high interest to cyber criminals.
It sure looks to me like Iphone 4S and Ipad 2 wont get any software upgrades from now on. This means that people buying eg ipad2 near its discontinuation (March 18, 2014) ipone 4S (discontinued September 9, 2014) will really not have a device thats software supported for any "meaningfull" time.
I think Apple should make bug/exploit fixes to the last old major newest versions for some time to come after newer major version is released (this would mean now ios 7.1) but apple isn't doing this.
I just hope that IOS will not become like android in regard to malware....
"It sure looks to me like Iphone 4S and Ipad 2 wont get any software upgrades from now on."
Nor should they. I still agree with Rogifan that those devices shouldn't have received the iOS 8 update. This time next year it would be smart for Apple to move to an all-retina all-64 bit line-up for all of their iOS devices.
And my first reboot in 8.1.1 on my iPhone 5.
Apple are doing too much.
I've not had any issues with it on my 5.
I was using Safari at the time.