What I find scary is that I don't have an iPhone and I have no intention of getting an Apple Watch but looking at Apple's web site I started to want one. The power of advertising ...
I'm hoping it will hook up with third-party GPS modules since it doesn't contain its own GPS chip. I don't want to have to carry an iPhone all the time. It's a minor gripe since I could simply wear an AppleWatch on one wrist and a Fenix 2 on the other.
you're hoping it will work with third-party GPS devices? absolutely will not happen. there, your hopes have been squashed.
nobody cares about your faux helpfulness. you're just a stinky troll with no life who enjoys wasting other people's time in order to entertain yourself.
It's an iPhone dependent device. Prepare for the worse.
how much pain will you be in when it sells millions of units and people report loving it? because these sorts of things do put you into physical pain, don't they?
how much pain will you be in when it sells millions of units and people report loving it? because these sorts of things do put you into physical pain, don't they?
Not how the claims of Apple's imminent doom are always before the results are in. Apple will fail and anything that competes with Apple will succeed.
Of course, these people continually lose in these bets so they have learned to deny any success Apple has and any failures their competitions have.
you're hoping it will work with third-party GPS devices? absolutely will not happen. there, your hopes have been squashed.
You are most likely correct on the initial release. Apple Watch communicates with the outside world via BT4.0. What data will be allowed over that stream to apps or third party apps isn't clear at this point. Apple has a history of restricting access to some things, particularly on new products. Almost certainly Apple will put restrictions on anything that potentially affects battery life. It is less clear that this will be the case in future versions. Still, Apple Watch has been pretty clearly described as an iPhone accessory (although it seems logical it would somehow interact with other Apple devices - iPads and Macs) so until that strategy is clearly limiting sales, I don't see any incentive for Apple changing that. Apple won't have any trouble selling all they can make.
One thing I don't quite understand is how Apple Watch achieves the 50ms time accuracy. Somehow it has to receive an outside signal. With no wifi or GPS chip onboard, it would need to hear what time it is via BT. Meaning...what? It *requires* an iPhone to even tell time? Or the charger, plugged into a mac, will refresh the time and location settings?
As an aside, I've been less than thrilled with the reliability of some BT4 devices. Sure hope they get better. I have a key fob thingy that is totally unreliable, and a portable speaker that is prone to dropouts.
You are most likely correct on the initial release. Apple Watch communicates with the outside world via BT4.0. What data will be allowed over that stream to apps or third party apps isn't clear at this point. Apple has a history of restricting access to some things, particularly on new products. Almost certainly Apple will put restrictions on anything that potentially affects battery life. It is less clear that this will be the case in future versions. Still, Apple Watch has been pretty clearly described as an iPhone accessory (although it seems logical it would somehow interact with other Apple devices - iPads and Macs) so until that strategy is clearly limiting sales, I don't see any incentive for Apple changing that. Apple won't have any trouble selling all they can make.
One thing I don't quite understand is how Apple Watch achieves the 50ms time accuracy. Somehow it has to receive an outside signal. With no wifi or GPS chip onboard, it would need to hear what time it is via BT. Meaning...what? It *requires* an iPhone to even tell time? Or the charger, plugged into a mac, will refresh the time and location settings?
As an aside, I've been less than thrilled with the reliability of some BT4 devices. Sure hope they get better. I have a key fob thingy that is totally unreliable, and a portable speaker that is prone to dropouts.
Don't think so. Wifi uses a lotta power. From the Apple page: "Wi-Fi and GPS. Apple Watch uses the GPS and Wi?Fi in your iPhone to help measure the distance you travel during the day or during workouts that can’t be measured in steps, such as cycling."
If I recall, Chairman Honeycrisp said he uses his Apple Watch to control his AppleTV. The most recent version of AppleTV includes BT, maybe just for this purpose?
...while I don't care for the design, looks like it's brilliantly crafted.
I don't care for the design much either. I did notice that they have not followed the design of most other chronometers by protecting the crown with heavy duty lugs either side. I think there is some likelihood that with wrist flexing and daily use, the crown could become damaged rather easily.
Another thing that potentially concerns me about the Apple Watch is that when I'm out and about, which would be the likely occasion that I would find a wrist worn watch useful, such tiny interface elements in bright daylight might be rather difficult to read unlike a good old fashion chronometer.
...while I don't care for the design, looks like it's brilliantly crafted.
I don't care for the design much either. I did notice that they have not followed the design of most other chronometers by protecting the crown with heavy duty lugs either side. I think there is some likelihood that with wrist flexing and daily use, the crown could become damaged rather easily.
Another thing that potentially concerns me about the Apple Watch is that when I'm out and about, which would be the likely occasion that I would find a wrist worn watch useful, such tiny interface elements in bright daylight might be rather difficult to read unlike a good old fashion chronometer.
Yes. Everyone is gawping at the huge pictures on the Apple site, but they are, of course, blown up to be vastly bigger than real size. In reality, the screen will be tiny and you will be constantly squinting at it inside, let alone outside.
I don't care for the design much either. I did notice that they have not followed the design of most other chronometers by protecting the crown with heavy duty lugs either side.
The digital crown will be used often so hindering that would be a major design flaw for usability.
I think there is some likelihood that with wrist flexing and daily use, the crown could become damaged rather easily.
Perhaps, but remember it reads the crown movement through IR, hence the use of digital crown, so they do have more freedom in how they can make what is essentially a free spinning wheel connect. My guess is this won't be an issue.
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it's more than advertising. it's design.
you're hoping it will work with third-party GPS devices? absolutely will not happen. there, your hopes have been squashed.
nobody cares about your faux helpfulness. you're just a stinky troll with no life who enjoys wasting other people's time in order to entertain yourself.
how much pain will you be in when it sells millions of units and people report loving it? because these sorts of things do put you into physical pain, don't they?
Not how the claims of Apple's imminent doom are always before the results are in. Apple will fail and anything that competes with Apple will succeed.
Of course, these people continually lose in these bets so they have learned to deny any success Apple has and any failures their competitions have.
you're hoping it will work with third-party GPS devices? absolutely will not happen. there, your hopes have been squashed.
You are most likely correct on the initial release. Apple Watch communicates with the outside world via BT4.0. What data will be allowed over that stream to apps or third party apps isn't clear at this point. Apple has a history of restricting access to some things, particularly on new products. Almost certainly Apple will put restrictions on anything that potentially affects battery life. It is less clear that this will be the case in future versions. Still, Apple Watch has been pretty clearly described as an iPhone accessory (although it seems logical it would somehow interact with other Apple devices - iPads and Macs) so until that strategy is clearly limiting sales, I don't see any incentive for Apple changing that. Apple won't have any trouble selling all they can make.
One thing I don't quite understand is how Apple Watch achieves the 50ms time accuracy. Somehow it has to receive an outside signal. With no wifi or GPS chip onboard, it would need to hear what time it is via BT. Meaning...what? It *requires* an iPhone to even tell time? Or the charger, plugged into a mac, will refresh the time and location settings?
As an aside, I've been less than thrilled with the reliability of some BT4 devices. Sure hope they get better. I have a key fob thingy that is totally unreliable, and a portable speaker that is prone to dropouts.
It has WiFi.
It has WiFi.
Don't think so. Wifi uses a lotta power. From the Apple page: "Wi-Fi and GPS. Apple Watch uses the GPS and Wi?Fi in your iPhone to help measure the distance you travel during the day or during workouts that can’t be measured in steps, such as cycling."
If I recall, Chairman Honeycrisp said he uses his Apple Watch to control his AppleTV. The most recent version of AppleTV includes BT, maybe just for this purpose?
...while I don't care for the design, looks like it's brilliantly crafted.
I don't care for the design much either. I did notice that they have not followed the design of most other chronometers by protecting the crown with heavy duty lugs either side. I think there is some likelihood that with wrist flexing and daily use, the crown could become damaged rather easily.
Another thing that potentially concerns me about the Apple Watch is that when I'm out and about, which would be the likely occasion that I would find a wrist worn watch useful, such tiny interface elements in bright daylight might be rather difficult to read unlike a good old fashion chronometer.
Yes. Everyone is gawping at the huge pictures on the Apple site, but they are, of course, blown up to be vastly bigger than real size. In reality, the screen will be tiny and you will be constantly squinting at it inside, let alone outside.
The digital crown will be used often so hindering that would be a major design flaw for usability.
Perhaps, but remember it reads the crown movement through IR, hence the use of digital crown, so they do have more freedom in how they can make what is essentially a free spinning wheel connect. My guess is this won't be an issue.