I honestly don't think the ads are that bad. They are 30 seconds based on my experience. The ones I've heard and have stuck out to me are just ads for things available on iTunes, i.e. The Beatles, Coldplay etc. It's not bad.
I am guessing you don't pay for iTunes Match right? As I said earlier I get no ads.
Licensing is the issue. Every single country has their own boatload of regulations to navigate. Honestly, it amazes me that Apple should have any interest at all in expanding into some countries.
I assume you mean 'expanding iTunes radio into some countries' ...? The answer to all else is $s.
OT but while listening to my ad free iTunes Radio Christmas curated music, I am rambling ... Regarding Latin being 'dead' ... If you walk around the Catalan area of N.E. Spain, S.W. France and Andorra for a while you realize it actually is alive and thriving. Fascinating history there, some truth some folk lore. I lived there on the Spanish-French border for a few years and discovered that a local ruins called Empúries, was a western outpost of the Greeks then later the Romans that lived on well after Rome fell. Local lore has it that the soldiers stationed there decided to stay and settle when called back to defend Rome. It's morphed as a language obviously as it mixed with regional languages but then so has English in the USA and Spanish in central and south America. Our first clue about the language was when a Spanish bank had Caixa on the sign outside not Banco. That was the start of a fun investigation and rummage through the ruins.
Well, the rest of Spain would use Caja, not Banco (Caja Madrid, etc.).
I spent a good deal of time in that area, nice weather, nice people. Catalan is fun to hear and speak as well.
Well, the rest of Spain would use Caja, not Banco (Caja Madrid, etc.).
I spent a good deal of time in that area, nice weather, nice people. Catalan is fun to hear and speak as well.
True it's all one big 'romance' influence there . I really abbreviated that story too much My then wife was Italian and a linguist with years of Latin under her belt was the one who was fascinated. Originally she was baffled by not being able to communicate when we moved there. She latched onto the spelling of caxia as a first clue and once she made the 'Latin' connection was speaking Catalan in a few months. I'd add that two years later I could order two beers and ask where the bathroom was.
Yes it is a lovely area. As long as you avoid the few coastal towns designed to entertain Brits on week long booze ups. They are truly horrific but as I say easily avoided.
Correct. iTunes Match subscribers get ad-free iTunes Radio.
Thanks ... saved me reading up I never even realized that. I had jumped on iTunes Match the day it came out so iTunes Radio wasn't really on my radar so I didn't realize till just now ads existed. I cannot imagine why for $25 a year anyone would not want to use iTunes Match. I don't even have my iTunes Library on line 99% of the time, it is on 4TB external in a drawer. It had 80 GIGs of CDs plus all my LPs digitized by me too (they were uploaded) . All the Macs, Apple TVs, iPads and iPhones my wife and I have meanwhile have access to the entire contents all at the new higher quality (except the LPs obviously that are as was). Plus if that disk every died, I can download it all again! Totally brilliant.
I can see a different future though. The same argument used for videos. Why store when you can stream ?... But I have emotional connections to my old LPs and CDs, even the order songs come in on a given album matter to me for many reasons mostly sentimental ones.
True it's all one big 'romance' influence there . I really abbreviated that story too much My then wife was Italian and a linguist with years of Latin under her belt. Originally she was baffled by not being able to communicate when we moved there. She latched onto the spelling of caxia as a first clue and once she made the 'Latin' connection was speaking Catalan in a few months. I'd add that two years later I could order two beers and ask where the bathroom was.
Yes it is a lovely area. As long as you avoid the few coastal towns designed to entertain Brits on week long booze ups. They are truly horrific but as I say easily avoided.
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I spent about five months in Tarragona, six in Granollers and Vic, nine down in Gandia, about an hour south of Valencia, and five in Palma. Plus visits to Barcelona, of course. Never made it to Camp Nou, but did see most of Gaudi's work, and visited a fair amount of sites.
Bilbao was a short trip, don't even get me started on the oddity of Euskara.
I spent about five months in Tarragona, six in Granollers and Vic, nine down in Gandia, about an hour south of Valencia, and five in Palma. Plus visits to Barcelona, of course. Never made it to Camp Nou, but did see most of Gaudi's work, and visited a fair amount of sites.
Bilbao was a short trip, don't even get me started on the oddity of Euskara.
My theory on Euskara is 'shipwreck' ...
Seriously a fascinating mystery there isn't it? I read on ARS some genetic work done there is ongoing. You have me wanting to go back and reread all that now.
Did you ever get to Figueres to see the Dali museum?
Back on topic ... the curator of the Christmas iTunes radio selection seems to select newer artists for everything ... not even John Lennon singing his own, 'War is over', the most important Christmas song of all time (IMHO) Jeez! (no pun intended!)
The fact that iTunes Radio is not still not available for nearly all of the world after all this time suggests to me that it will not happen now. Let's hope that the same situation does not apply to the roll out of Apple pay to countries other than the USA.
I am pretty sure this has more to do with obtaining all the rights than anything else.
Well, they're not super well targeted. I was listening to the Bach station and I got McDonalds ads
But the interesting thing to me was, some of the ads actually have a visual component. So you will be listening only, doing something else, with iTunes in the background, and suddenly the whole iTunes app will be filled with a McDonalds logo. Before I started using it I just assumed the ads would be audio only. But yes, just one ad less than a minute, frequency every 2 or 3 tracks. Not like TV where you get lots of ads at once.
(in the land down under here)
The ads are completely benign and not at all annoying. What does listening to Bach have to do with not getting McDonald's ads? Classical music listeners don't eat fast food? Either way, I prefer non-targeted ads. Targeted ads are usually off-putting and kinda creepy.
Cool. News stations for a service that hardly exists outside the US.
Anyone else feels this radio is still born like ping?
Not at all. I use it all the time when I'm home and enjoy it. Just wish it could be streamed from a browser on a computer where I can't install iTunes, like on a work computer.
The ads are completely benign and not at all annoying. What does listening to Bach have to do with not getting McDonald's ads? Classical music listeners don't eat fast food? Either way, I prefer non-targeted ads. Targeted ads are usually off-putting and kinda creepy.
People are individuals of course, so no reason someone couldn't like Bach and fast food. But if you were writing a computer program that deduced from what songs people were listening to, what ads to show them, would you program that? I mean, on the balance of probabilities? Maybe the system is random/untargeted.
People are individuals of course, so no reason someone couldn't like Bach and fast food. But if you were writing a computer program that deduced from what songs people were listening to, what ads to show them, would you program that? I mean, on the balance of probabilities? Maybe the system is random/untargeted.
Shoot, I have a Mac 'n Bach night on Saturdays. Big Macs, and classical music.
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I am guessing you don't pay for iTunes Match right? As I said earlier I get no ads.
I assume you mean 'expanding iTunes radio into some countries' ...? The answer to all else is $s.
OT but while listening to my ad free iTunes Radio Christmas curated music, I am rambling ... Regarding Latin being 'dead' ...
Well, the rest of Spain would use Caja, not Banco (Caja Madrid, etc.).
I spent a good deal of time in that area, nice weather, nice people. Catalan is fun to hear and speak as well.
I've never heard an ad ...? I thought you guys were all joking ... but then I thought ... could it be because I have iTunes Match I don't het many?
Correct. iTunes Match subscribers get ad-free iTunes Radio.
True it's all one big 'romance' influence there
Yes it is a lovely area. As long as you avoid the few coastal towns designed to entertain Brits on week long booze ups. They are truly horrific but as I say easily avoided.
There is choice...
Thanks ... saved me reading up
I can see a different future though. The same argument used for videos. Why store when you can stream ?... But I have emotional connections to my old LPs and CDs, even the order songs come in on a given album matter to me for many reasons mostly sentimental ones.
True it's all one big 'romance' influence there
Yes it is a lovely area. As long as you avoid the few coastal towns designed to entertain Brits on week long booze ups. They are truly horrific but as I say easily avoided.
Benidorm would be the big one, followed by Ibiza.
I spent about five months in Tarragona, six in Granollers and Vic, nine down in Gandia, about an hour south of Valencia, and five in Palma. Plus visits to Barcelona, of course. Never made it to Camp Nou, but did see most of Gaudi's work, and visited a fair amount of sites.
Bilbao was a short trip, don't even get me started on the oddity of Euskara.
My theory on Euskara is 'shipwreck' ...
Seriously a fascinating mystery there isn't it? I read on ARS some genetic work done there is ongoing. You have me wanting to go back and reread all that now.
Did you ever get to Figueres to see the Dali museum?
Back on topic ... the curator of the Christmas iTunes radio selection seems to select newer artists for everything ... not even John Lennon singing his own, 'War is over', the most important Christmas song of all time (IMHO) Jeez! (no pun intended!)
The fact that iTunes Radio is not still not available for nearly all of the world after all this time suggests to me that it will not happen now. Let's hope that the same situation does not apply to the roll out of Apple pay to countries other than the USA.
I am pretty sure this has more to do with obtaining all the rights than anything else.
Well, they're not super well targeted. I was listening to the Bach station and I got McDonalds ads
But the interesting thing to me was, some of the ads actually have a visual component. So you will be listening only, doing something else, with iTunes in the background, and suddenly the whole iTunes app will be filled with a McDonalds logo. Before I started using it I just assumed the ads would be audio only. But yes, just one ad less than a minute, frequency every 2 or 3 tracks. Not like TV where you get lots of ads at once.
(in the land down under here)
The ads are completely benign and not at all annoying. What does listening to Bach have to do with not getting McDonald's ads? Classical music listeners don't eat fast food? Either way, I prefer non-targeted ads. Targeted ads are usually off-putting and kinda creepy.
Cool. News stations for a service that hardly exists outside the US.
Anyone else feels this radio is still born like ping?
Not at all. I use it all the time when I'm home and enjoy it. Just wish it could be streamed from a browser on a computer where I can't install iTunes, like on a work computer.
The ads are completely benign and not at all annoying. What does listening to Bach have to do with not getting McDonald's ads? Classical music listeners don't eat fast food? Either way, I prefer non-targeted ads. Targeted ads are usually off-putting and kinda creepy.
People are individuals of course, so no reason someone couldn't like Bach and fast food. But if you were writing a computer program that deduced from what songs people were listening to, what ads to show them, would you program that? I mean, on the balance of probabilities? Maybe the system is random/untargeted.
Shoot, I have a Mac 'n Bach night on Saturdays. Big Macs, and classical music.
Shoot, I have a Mac 'n Bach night on Saturdays. Big Macs, and classical music.
You are an advertising profiler's nightmare
Always keep them guessing.
I used to know a gorgeous woman from Barcelona. ????
They're a dime a dozen in Barcelona.
I have a few extra dollars...