Fingerprint sensor for Google's Nexus 6 was nixed after Apple bought AuthenTec

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  • Reply 41 of 83
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    Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post



    Whatever tech is behind it, my iPhone 6's fingerprint sensor works quite literally 100% of the time.



    Apple nailed it.



    This is what I like to see. Shipping a finished, polished, working product.

    Mine doesn't. If my finger is wet or if the home button gets greasy I get frequent failures and have to fall back to pin entry.

  • Reply 42 of 83
    fallenjtfallenjt Posts: 4,044member
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    I either wave my hand over my phone if I don 't feel like picking it up or I simply pick it up if there's some action I want to perform. . Sensor of the back is common sense if it's primary purpose is identity verification for payments. Only one hand needed, the one you're already holding your phone with. What benefit is there to making the phone larger/taller just to fit yet something else on the face?

    Go out and buy an iPhone to try the Touch ID. You don't know the fck what you're talking about. Arguing on things you've never used making you look like an idiot.

  • Reply 43 of 83
    sflocalsflocal Posts: 5,947member
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    Originally Posted by BuddyRevell View Post

     

    It's funny how that out of all the Android phone makers out there,  only Huawei has come out with a fingerprint sensor that is even close to Apple's. Samsung's swipe style is flat-out horrible.




    Samsung only came out with a fingerprint sensor at the time it did solely to keep up with Apple.  Taking the time (like TouchID) to get it right requires actual software skill which Samsung lacks.  So they did what they always do... slap on some horrible, unreliable tech, put it out to market and claim (i.e. "Lie") that they are innovators and not copyists.



    Samsung's implementation of it is so bad, is shameful.  I have to wonder if the Samsung execs ever actually sat down during the prototyping stage and say "Yeah, this sucks...".  It's boggles my mind that someone would approve it knowing they are producing millions of devices using a tech that frankly, no one will use.  That's embarrassing.  Samsung has zero shame and ethics.

  • Reply 44 of 83
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    Seriously? Two hands? I've NEVER used two hands to unlock my 5S, and every iPhone 6 owner I know at work does it with one hand with no issue...



    Yep. I remove it from my pocket, gripping it by the Home button and clicking it once, and that unlocks it by the time it gets up to where I can use it. With iOS your thumb usually rests near the button anyway.

  • Reply 45 of 83
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    Mine doesn't. If my finger is wet or if the home button gets greasy I get frequent failures and have to fall back to pin entry.




    I usually just wipe my digit on my pants and try again, that tends to fix it.

  • Reply 46 of 83
    gilly33gilly33 Posts: 394member
    gatorguy wrote: »
    Sensor on the back makes a lot of sense to me. Where is your index finger when you're holding your phone? Making it an even larger phone by adding chin-space for the sensor on the front is what wouldn't make sense. Does it to you?

    Judging from your typical comments on AI you are the resident Google guy to keep us all straight while wounding our collective Apple egos aren't you. You're that guy.
  • Reply 47 of 83
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
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    Originally Posted by TheWhiteFalcon View Post

     
     With iOS your thumb usually rests near the button anyway.


    I don't find that to be the case at all. I find it much faster and more comfortable to use two hands, unless I am carrying something in the other hand.

     

    With the previous iPhone I did much as you suggest and it was not difficult at all, however with the iPhone 6, trying to unlock it using the Touch ID with one hand is awkward because reaching down with the thumb makes the phone seem top heavy to the point I feel like it might slip out of my hand. I usually grip it as shown in this picture and use the index finger of the other hand to unlock it, which is fast and safe. I really don't want to risk dropping the phone.

     

     

    Since I'm right handed, generally I'm going to be using that same index finger immediately after unlocking to interact with the device. The iPhone 6's extra size has changed my usage pattern somewhat.

     

    I'm not sure what you mean that the thumb is usually near the home button. I certainly don't find that to be the case with my normal use.

  • Reply 48 of 83
    razorpitrazorpit Posts: 1,796member
    patpatpat wrote: »
    Mine doesn't. If my finger is wet or if the home button gets greasy I get frequent failures and have to fall back to pin entry.

    Sounds like you tried putting a lot of square pegs in to round holes when you were a kid...

    mstone wrote: »
    I don't find that to be the case at all. I find it much faster and more comfortable to use two hands, unless I am carrying something in the other hand.

    With the previous iPhone I did much as you suggest and it was not difficult at all, however with the iPhone 6, trying to unlock it using the Touch ID with one hand is awkward because reaching down with the thumb makes the phone seem top heavy to the point I feel like it might slip out of my hand. I usually grip it as shown in this picture and use the index finger of the other hand to unlock it, which is fast and safe. I really don't want to risk dropping the phone.

     
    <img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="54757" data-type="61" src="http://forums.appleinsider.com/content/type/61/id/54757/width/350/height/700/flags/LL" style="; width: 350px; height: 197px">


    Since I'm right handed, generally I'm going to be using that same index finger immediately after unlocking to interact with the device. The iPhone 6's extra size has changed my usage pattern somewhat.

    I'm not sure what you mean that the thumb is usually near the home button. I certainly don't find that to be the case with my normal use.

    You didn't tell us you had a deformed hand with only three fingers. Now it all makes sense.
  • Reply 49 of 83
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
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    You didn't tell us you had a deformed hand with only three fingers. Now it all makes sense.


    Very funny, no I'm not deformed. The index finger in the picture is hidden because I was trying find the Touch ID on the back of the case. /s

  • Reply 50 of 83
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 23,365member
    fallenjt wrote: »
    Go out and buy an iPhone to try the Touch ID. You don't know the fck what you're talking about. Arguing on things you've never used making you look like an idiot.
    That reads like foolishness.

    The article is about the Nexus 6 not an iPhone, and my comments were directed at what I think is the best placement for a touch sensor on that particular phablet Android phone. It would seem you might be arguing about a phone you don't own and probably a platform you've never used. What would that make you look like again? :rolleyes:
  • Reply 51 of 83
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    Mine doesn't. If my finger is wet or if the home button gets greasy I get frequent failures and have to fall back to pin entry.




    My paper doesn't work. If my pencil is wet or my paper gets greasy I can't read what I wrote.

  • Reply 52 of 83
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member

    @ Gator, Admittedly, I have never owned and only very briefly looked at a friend's Android to try to get his email working, but putting a fingerprint reader on the back is just crazy in my opinion.

     

    Mobile devices are always going to be a series of compromises based on battery life, small screen size, hands and fingers, cell data etc. One thing that Apple always pays attention to is consistency. If they were to put a Touch ID on the back of one iPhone they would need to put it on the back of every iPhone and every iPad which would be just idiotic in my opinion. The home button integrated with Touch ID is brilliant. The Android phones that committed to the shallow chin area for the home button, cut off their options to integrate a fingerprint reader into the home button so they had to come up with some other compromise. All of their options were inferior to Apple's implementation.

  • Reply 53 of 83
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 23,365member
    mstone wrote: »
    @ Gator, Admittedly, I have never owned and only very briefly looked at a friend's Android to try to get his email working, but putting a fingerprint reader on the back is just crazy in my opinion.n.
    The Nexus 6 is already a very large phone. Android phone don't typically have physical home buttons on the front either, and certainly not relatively large ones. For Apple to add the touch sensor to an existing home button makes good sense. Adding another 3/4" in height to a very large Android phablet only to add a touch sensor doesn't sound like a better solution than making use of already "dead" space in an area that your finger would naturally reside anyway. Am I missing something?
  • Reply 54 of 83
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member

    It appears that the Nexus 6 has a home button. It would not be an additional 3/4" Maybe additional .25 +/-

     

  • Reply 55 of 83
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 23,365member
    mstone wrote: »
    No where near large enough to incorporate a fingerprint sensor. Adding another 1/2-3/4" to accommodate one is not a better solution than adding a sensor to the back where fingers naturally lay anyway. IMHO. Do you really think it's worth creating an even larger footprint?
  • Reply 56 of 83
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
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    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post





    No where near large enough to incorporate a fingerprint sensor. Adding another 1/2-3/4" to accommodate one is not a better solution than adding a sensor to the back where fingers naturally lay anyway. IMHO. Do you really think it's worth creating an even larger footprint?

    Dude get out a ruler. The total space on my iPhone 6 is like a 1/2 inch at most. The Nexus looks like 3/8" guess-timate. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt but I'm sure the CAD files are online by now. If you want to argue that it requires an additional 3/4" more, you need to go get the actual specs and then lets compare. It is a tiny amount of difference but I'm sure Apple has look and feel patents that would prevent Android manufacturers from duplicating their design so it is a moot point anyway. Let's see how the back case fingerprint reader is adopted by the public. I'm guessing, not so much.

  • Reply 57 of 83
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 23,365member
    mstone wrote: »
    Dude get out a ruler. The total space on my iPhone 6 is like a 1/2 inch at most. The Nexus looks like 3/8" guess-timate. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt but I'm sure the CAD files are online by now. If you want to argue that it requires an additional 3/4" more, you need to go get the actual specs and then lets compare. It is a tiny amount of difference but I'm sure Apple has look and feel patents that would prevent Android manufacturers from duplicating their design so it is a moot point anyway. Let's see how the back case fingerprint reader is adopted by the public. I'm guessing, not so much.
    Then when you find it we can discuss it further. Until then I don't see a reason for either of our opinions to change.
  • Reply 58 of 83
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
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    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post

     
    Then when you find it we can discuss it further. Until then I don't see a reason for either of our opinions to change.


    Find what? I have an iPhone 6 and a ruler. Do you have a Nexus 6 and a ruler?

  • Reply 59 of 83
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 23,365member
    mstone wrote: »
    Find what? I have an iPhone 6 and a ruler. Do you have a Nexus 6 and a ruler?
    Those CAD files you mentioned. Until then we can use this tho:
    http://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Google-Nexus-6,Apple-iPhone-6-Plus/phones/8626,8908

    Note the Nexus display is already significantly larger than the quite large 6+ yet both have nearly identical footprints. Again what is the benefit to making the Nexus even larger?
  • Reply 60 of 83
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mstone View Post



    Find what? I have an iPhone 6 and a ruler. Do you have a Nexus 6 and a ruler?


    http://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Google-Nexus-6,Apple-iPhone-6-Plus/phones/8626,8908

    What a joke. First you have to calibrate your screen which requires a credit card. LOL!

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