I disagree. Apple hasn't bullied anybody into anything, and their success hasn't come from stifling competition. It's not Apple's fault that the competition is inept.
Plus, Apple doesn't compete at all levels. They only choose to compete at the high end, giving up unit sales for larger gross margins.
In the same way, Patek Philippe concedes the cheap watch market to Casio, Timex, Nixon, Swatch, whatever.
Boom. At least Samsung has refrigerators to fall back on.
Or are they "innovating" by shipping toaster-fridges these days?
Refrigerators and TV won't help. Let's see. We buy refrigerators every 10-15 years and TV every 7-10 years....Also, in consumer home appliance markets, Samsung is not a top dog, but LG while Bosch is the luxury dog. For TV, Sharps, LG are taking good shots at Samsung on price while Vizio is cleaning up the bottom tier like Xiaomi does in smartphone market.
Nailed it. Google doesn't care who makes Android devices or how much those manufacturers earn/lose.
All they care about is ads. 97% of Google's revenue comes from advertisers.
The sweet thing is that strategy is going to bite Google in the posterior. It's one thing Scamsung going down the tubes but hopefully the entire Android adventure from its initial theft of Apple's IP to now, is soon to be another footnote in the history of Apple, like Microsoft.
Keep rubbing their noses in it, Mr. Dilger. If I had a nickel for every time an iHater fAndroid called me (us) stupid for our loyalty to Apple I’d be a rich man. They need this tattooed on their foreheads, hung around their necks, and stuffed down their throats. Any of the myriad of trolls who slither and lurk around AppleInsider need to be called out and pilloried for their bullshit.
Why don't you tell us how you really feel?
BTW, I agree. It's getting so ridiculous that you can't even have a discussion online anywhere before the thread gets derailed by a bunch of Apple haters who will claim if Apple fanboys stop hijacking their threads they'll also stop (as a way to justify their trolling).
'Twas always thus. I've been using Macs since the 80s, and have constantly heard about how Mac Users always go on about how much better they are than Windows, while in reality I've only ever heard Windows users talk like that. Basically, people attribute to their enemies their own worst traits. Android fanatics are no different.
I'm glad to see Apple doing well, but the company should keep in mind that size and success can breed federal intervention, as when the Clinton administration took on Microsoft and when the Obama administration went after Apple and the Big Five publishers.
Apple needs to behave like a very, very good little boy, not doing anything that could get it into trouble. The company's executives should study the troubles AT&T and IBM got into decades ago when they tried to bully and control.
In the long run, 'going nuclear' may prove a very bad idea.
Getting big isn't enough. The problem with MS wasn't just that they're big, it was that they used their market position to negotiate deals that stifled competition. Forcing everyone who bought an Intel processor to pay for a copy of Windows, for example. Or writing code into Windows that made other Office suites run slower. Taking advantage of unpublished APIs for their own software. That kind of thing.
So far, Apple haven't been doing anything comparable. Only allowing their devices to connect in iTunes, or play iTunes music isn't the same - there are other options. When you buy an Android phone, you don't have iOS forced on you as well. And if you buy your music from Amazon, or anyone other than iTunes, you can play it on your iPhone or your iPod, or your Android device. As long as they continue to allow that, they shouldn't be in any trouble.
Keep rubbing their noses in it, Mr. Dilger. If I had a nickel for every time an iHater fAndroid called me (us) stupid for our loyalty to Apple I’d be a rich man. They need this tattooed on their foreheads, hung around their necks, and stuffed down their throats. Any of the myriad of trolls who slither and lurk around AppleInsider need to be called out and pilloried for their bullshit.
Yes if not their eyeballs, I just saw they are tattooable too ... ugh!
I wonder what the iHaters will turn to next, we've had the Windows nerds that hated Apple (they are pretty quiet these days) , the Scamsung clueless that hate Apple (soon to be quiet) ... Maybe they will all rush out and buy Timex watches and say they are far better than ?Watch?
That's not fair. They also made ads making fun of Kindle and Windows Surface users.
To be fair though, the Windows Surface users kinda deserved it.
'Twas always thus. I've been using Macs since the 80s, and have constantly heard about how Mac Users always go on about how much better they are than Windows, while in reality I've only ever heard Windows users talk like that. Basically, people attribute to their enemies their own worst traits. Android fanatics are no different.
Getting big isn't enough. The problem with MS wasn't just that they're big, it was that they used their market position to negotiate deals that stifled competition. Forcing everyone who bought an Intel processor to pay for a copy of Windows, for example. Or writing code into Windows that made other Office suites run slower. Taking advantage of unpublished APIs for their own software. That kind of thing.
So far, Apple haven't been doing anything comparable. Only allowing their devices to connect in iTunes, or play iTunes music isn't the same - there are other options. When you buy an Android phone, you don't have iOS forced on you as well. And if you buy your music from Amazon, or anyone other than iTunes, you can play it on your iPhone or your iPod, or your Android device. As long as they continue to allow that, they shouldn't be in any trouble.
Well said on all counts ... Re Microshit, Don't leave out stealing Quicktime then making their version create files that would not run on Macs making Macs look like they were not up to snuff with multi-media in many users eyes. Oh, and making web sites that only worked in IE (IE hahahah) and all those damn databases that only worked on Windblows. Mircroshit just die .../rant
A bunch already have. More likely there will be other upgrades on the way, but they don't need to happen within a specific timeframe. Some analysts will take more time to digest all the data. It's earnings season right now, so many more of Apple's competitors in the industries that Apple competes in will be announcing results in the upcoming weeks.
You are right. Thanks for providing the link. I think those new targets are very sheepish; increase of single digit from their previous estimates. Means it does lack conviction for AAPL. Anyway, it doesn't matter a whole lot for me. I am long term with AAPL - Not only with their products, but with their stocks.
Yes if not their eyeballs, I just saw they are tattooable too ... ugh!
I wonder what the iHaters will turn to next, we've had the Windows nerds that hated Apple (they are pretty quiet these days) , the Scamsung clueless that hate Apple (soon to be quiet) ... Maybe they will all rush out and buy Timex watches and say they are far better than ?Watch?
The MS guys are mostly on Apple's side anymore, they want to unite to stop the Google threat. Kinda like how IBM's united with Apple as well.
The sweet thing is that strategy is going to bite Google in the posterior. It's one thing Scamsung going down the tubes but hopefully the entire Android adventure from its initial theft of Apple's IP to now, is soon to be another footnote in the history of Apple, like Microsoft.
I think Android will limp along for the foreseeable future, in one form or another. There will always be lowball hardware makers who want a free OS. Looking to shave a few pennies off the cost of each unit as they all try to push each other off the low-margin cliff. Welcome to that unpleasant little mosh pit, Samsung.
And the Chinese government would love to keep spying on their citizens through whatever backdoors they've forced hardware makers to install in Android. I bet Xiaomi's success warms the hearts of Beijing party apparatchiks.
Of course, precious little of that "market share" benefits Google in any way. Google Play sales to cheapskate lowball Android-appliance buyers? Forget it. Google ads served up to the vast bottom-feeding low-end of the Chinese market? Good luck with that.
Don't forget the shitty skins over every thing and don't forget the latest android pumpkin pie with nuts, is not going on your phone. Not to mention the speakers echoing etc. Just saying
Nailed it. Google doesn't care who makes Android devices or how much those manufacturers earn/lose.
All they care about is ads. 97% of Google's revenue comes from advertisers.
They care enough to prevent their Open Handset Alliance members from selling open-source Android phones that don't have Google's mandatory closed-source apps and services. This follows their doctrine known as "competition is good except when you compete against Google using AOSP."
Yet there still are people writing articles such as this one in today's Mercury News in San Jose - Despite Apple Gains, Android Rules Smartphones. The author goes on about iOS losing ground to Android because last year because Android went from 78.9 percent to 81.2 percent of all Smartphones shipped in 2014. Never once does the author try to explain what Android is winning. Have Android phones increased their share of online commerce, have Android manufacturers increased their profit share, have Android phones started attracting more developers/applications than iOS?
They care enough to prevent their Open Handset Alliance members from selling open-source Android phones that don't have Google's mandatory closed-source apps and services. This follows their doctrine known as "competition is good except when you compete against Google using AOSP."
When they are not being sued by Bosch, Dyson, Whirlpool for stealing their IP / Designs too...
Hmm.. isn't Apple the most named defendant in IP lawsuits -- over 90 patent lawsuits over the past few years alone according to an old AI article? You forgot to mention Ericsson. Oh, and nVidia is not too far behind and will drop a bomb on Apple once they settle with Samsung.
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Release the AWatch!
I disagree. Apple hasn't bullied anybody into anything, and their success hasn't come from stifling competition. It's not Apple's fault that the competition is inept.
Plus, Apple doesn't compete at all levels. They only choose to compete at the high end, giving up unit sales for larger gross margins.
In the same way, Patek Philippe concedes the cheap watch market to Casio, Timex, Nixon, Swatch, whatever.
Inkling doesn't get it.
Boom. At least Samsung has refrigerators to fall back on.
Or are they "innovating" by shipping toaster-fridges these days?
Refrigerators and TV won't help. Let's see. We buy refrigerators every 10-15 years and TV every 7-10 years....Also, in consumer home appliance markets, Samsung is not a top dog, but LG while Bosch is the luxury dog. For TV, Sharps, LG are taking good shots at Samsung on price while Vizio is cleaning up the bottom tier like Xiaomi does in smartphone market.
What idiotic nonsense. What complete bovine excrement. What unbelievably convoluted stupidity.
LOL.
Seems there’s one thing Samsung can’t copy from Apple….
$$ signs...
The sweet thing is that strategy is going to bite Google in the posterior. It's one thing Scamsung going down the tubes but hopefully the entire Android adventure from its initial theft of Apple's IP to now, is soon to be another footnote in the history of Apple, like Microsoft.
That's not fair. They also made ads making fun of Kindle and Windows Surface users.
To be fair though, the Windows Surface users kinda deserved it.
'Twas always thus. I've been using Macs since the 80s, and have constantly heard about how Mac Users always go on about how much better they are than Windows, while in reality I've only ever heard Windows users talk like that. Basically, people attribute to their enemies their own worst traits. Android fanatics are no different.
Getting big isn't enough. The problem with MS wasn't just that they're big, it was that they used their market position to negotiate deals that stifled competition. Forcing everyone who bought an Intel processor to pay for a copy of Windows, for example. Or writing code into Windows that made other Office suites run slower. Taking advantage of unpublished APIs for their own software. That kind of thing.
So far, Apple haven't been doing anything comparable. Only allowing their devices to connect in iTunes, or play iTunes music isn't the same - there are other options. When you buy an Android phone, you don't have iOS forced on you as well. And if you buy your music from Amazon, or anyone other than iTunes, you can play it on your iPhone or your iPod, or your Android device. As long as they continue to allow that, they shouldn't be in any trouble.
Yes if not their eyeballs, I just saw they are tattooable too ... ugh!
I wonder what the iHaters will turn to next, we've had the Windows nerds that hated Apple (they are pretty quiet these days) , the Scamsung clueless that hate Apple (soon to be quiet) ... Maybe they will all rush out and buy Timex watches and say they are far better than ?Watch?
Well said on all counts ... Re Microshit, Don't leave out stealing Quicktime then making their version create files that would not run on Macs making Macs look like they were not up to snuff with multi-media in many users eyes. Oh, and making web sites that only worked in IE (IE hahahah) and all those damn databases that only worked on Windblows. Mircroshit just die .../rant
A bunch already have. More likely there will be other upgrades on the way, but they don't need to happen within a specific timeframe. Some analysts will take more time to digest all the data. It's earnings season right now, so many more of Apple's competitors in the industries that Apple competes in will be announcing results in the upcoming weeks.
You are right. Thanks for providing the link. I think those new targets are very sheepish; increase of single digit from their previous estimates. Means it does lack conviction for AAPL. Anyway, it doesn't matter a whole lot for me. I am long term with AAPL - Not only with their products, but with their stocks.
Apple's 'To Do' list:
Yes if not their eyeballs, I just saw they are tattooable too ... ugh!
I wonder what the iHaters will turn to next, we've had the Windows nerds that hated Apple (they are pretty quiet these days) , the Scamsung clueless that hate Apple (soon to be quiet) ... Maybe they will all rush out and buy Timex watches and say they are far better than ?Watch?
The MS guys are mostly on Apple's side anymore, they want to unite to stop the Google threat. Kinda like how IBM's united with Apple as well.
Gotta present a united front to stop The Google.
I think Android will limp along for the foreseeable future, in one form or another. There will always be lowball hardware makers who want a free OS. Looking to shave a few pennies off the cost of each unit as they all try to push each other off the low-margin cliff. Welcome to that unpleasant little mosh pit, Samsung.
And the Chinese government would love to keep spying on their citizens through whatever backdoors they've forced hardware makers to install in Android. I bet Xiaomi's success warms the hearts of Beijing party apparatchiks.
Of course, precious little of that "market share" benefits Google in any way. Google Play sales to cheapskate lowball Android-appliance buyers? Forget it. Google ads served up to the vast bottom-feeding low-end of the Chinese market? Good luck with that.
Not to mention the speakers echoing etc.
Just saying
Nailed it. Google doesn't care who makes Android devices or how much those manufacturers earn/lose.
All they care about is ads. 97% of Google's revenue comes from advertisers.
They care enough to prevent their Open Handset Alliance members from selling open-source Android phones that don't have Google's mandatory closed-source apps and services. This follows their doctrine known as "competition is good except when you compete against Google using AOSP."
Yet there still are people writing articles such as this one in today's Mercury News in San Jose - Despite Apple Gains, Android Rules Smartphones. The author goes on about iOS losing ground to Android because last year because Android went from 78.9 percent to 81.2 percent of all Smartphones shipped in 2014. Never once does the author try to explain what Android is winning. Have Android phones increased their share of online commerce, have Android manufacturers increased their profit share, have Android phones started attracting more developers/applications than iOS?
Talk about phyrric victories...
They care enough to prevent their Open Handset Alliance members from selling open-source Android phones that don't have Google's mandatory closed-source apps and services. This follows their doctrine known as "competition is good except when you compete against Google using AOSP."
"Yay open! Oh. Wait. Ummmm..."
When they are not being sued by Bosch, Dyson, Whirlpool for stealing their IP / Designs too...
Hmm.. isn't Apple the most named defendant in IP lawsuits -- over 90 patent lawsuits over the past few years alone according to an old AI article? You forgot to mention Ericsson. Oh, and nVidia is not too far behind and will drop a bomb on Apple once they settle with Samsung.