And yet Android still has an 80% market share of smartphones.
Throughout the discussion people have been pointing out how morons will point to marketshare in times like this... and then you come along and make this statement.
YOU have made a moron out of yourself!! Congrats!!
Samsung is a great company, and it's only the victim here because of its reliance on Google's Android. Let's hope with Tizen it can break free and start to compete fairly with Apple.
Samsung is SCUM. Nothing "great" about them at all. This is the company that was jealous of the people's mourning of Steve Jobs.
"Fairly" are you f***ing kidding me?!!
Yeah just like they compete fairly with Dyson and everyone else they stole from including the most obvious of all, Apple.
Moving forward:
I see sammy being even less relevant in 2015 and fandroids are quickly running to Xiaomi to be the next copycat savior.
But guess what? Even the next "iPhone killer" got trounced in their own homeland last quarter. That's not even the scary part!
The scary part is Xiaomi is stealing BILLIONS of dollars from android manufacturers only to return a few million for itself!!!
What is there to say now? WHAT???
Marketshare? Is that it?
Well you better hold on for dear life cause I see Apple taking from android every quarter and soon all those manufacturers you praise for marketshare will be losing BILLIONS and dropping out of the race against Apple.
?Pay is only getting started, a new Beats Music is launching, ?Watch will bring even more billions in revenue for Apple, the next iPhone is going to be even further advanced from the competition because of the race to the bottom(thanks Xiaomi!), contracts are ending and everyone wants a damn iPhone!!
If the competition thought 2014 was brutal 2015 is going to be an absolute NIGHT TERROR!!
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Hmm.. isn't Apple the most named defendant in IP lawsuits -- over 90 patent lawsuits over the past few years alone according to an old AI article? You forgot to mention Ericsson. Oh, and nVidia is not too far behind and will drop a bomb on Apple once they settle with Samsung.
The entire Engadget staff should be fired. I have no doubts in my mind that money is changing hands. They spin everything to make android/google/samsung look good and make apple look bad. Just recently the Thermonuclear obliteration of Samsung's profits was brushed over and the news was spun to basically say that android has 81% market share. Way to deflect attention from the real news. Apple should exclude Engadget from their events. Engadget is becoming less and less relevant as a tech blog. They can disappear as far as I'm concerned.
I'm glad to see Apple doing well, but the company should keep in mind that size and success can breed federal intervention, as when the Clinton administration took on Microsoft and when the Obama administration went after Apple and the Big Five publishers.
Apple needs to behave like a very, very good little boy, not doing anything that could get it into trouble. The company's executives should study the troubles AT&T and IBM got into decades ago when they tried to bully and control.
In the long run, 'going nuclear' may prove a very bad idea.
Ok, one part of this I agree with, and that is Apple needs to be cautious. While going "Thermonuclear" on Android may excite and please us iOS and Apple fans (and yes, I'm just as guilty about that as the rest of us), there is a real cautionary tale here to be had. If Apple has no real competitor to iOS, the government (i.e. the DOJ) may step in on "the behalf of the consumer" because we need to have a "competitive environment". So, we will have to deal with Android being around just to make sure the DOJ doesn't get its feathers ruffled and want to get rich quickly protect the consumer and sue Apple.
That said, I couldn't be more pleased with the implosion that Scamsung is encountering right now. Those cheats and schmucks just need to suffer greatly and then maybe the company's president can go commit Seppuku (yeah, I know, it is Japanese ritual suicide, but it wouldn't be the first thing that Scamsung stole, now would it?).
When they are not being sued by Bosch, Dyson, Whirlpool for stealing their IP / Designs too...
Hmm.. isn't Apple the most named defendant in IP lawsuits -- over 90 patent lawsuits over the past few years alone according to an old AI article? You forgot to mention Ericsson. Oh, and nVidia is not too far behind and will drop a bomb on Apple once they settle with Samsung.
Hmmm... the Ericsson lawsuit isn't about stealing IP. Ericsson is supposedly supplying IP to the LTE standard and they're just arguing over the amount. It's a totally different kettle of fish from what the OP was talking about.
And yet Android still has an 80% market share of smartphones.
Android market share makes a great headline... but there is never a compelling story after that.
And you just did it again... you stated the number and then walked away.
Congrats... you understand math. There are over 60 manufacturers shipping a billion Android smartphones a quarter. Of course Android will have a ton of market share.
So what is Android doing with that market share? There's got to be more than simply the number.
The iPhone has never had a high percentage of smartphone market share. Ever. In 8 years.
I think others like Samsung and Google(android) have been the one's breaking the law ,but when a company like apple with all there market influence and power can't stop them in a court of law then no one can.
Um it's a business. Profitability is more important than market share. that doesn't mean it's the only goal nor does it mean profit at all cost.
Many People aren't happy with $200 phones or $300 PCs now. What makes you think they would be in 20 years? iPhones and Mac increased sales again. I see, it's the old "Apple is doomed in the future" meme.
I never said otherwise. Your second sentence was my point. I'm glad we are on the same page.
Perhaps you're right, maybe $600 phones and $1200+ PC's will still be a hot ticket item. My point is that it's more likely that search, mail, apps and cloud based computing will be around and will work fine on devices of any cost. Google has claimed a vast market of mobile devices. These are developing countries that will grow up on Google services. The same way Apple's education program allows students to grow up on Apple.
Again, kneejerk. I mean, i'm posting in an opinion piece with words like 'thermonuclear'. The whole thing is written like America invading Germany on D-Day. Yet my prior post is claiming Apple is 'doomed'. I have no idea how well they will be doing. My argument is that it's misleading to think android is failing because HTC, Samsung and whoever has thin margins, yet Google who is the architect of this whole thing now commands a monopoly on the mobile phone market. They sell Android for $0. Clearly they have a longer end game, and I don't think they are worried the pawns who license their software, as long as they continue to do it. Apple can beat up Samsung all day, Google sells their $0 software to $100 and $800 phones alike.
you're right! because once you become THE BIGGEST COMPANY IN THE WORLD, MAKING THE MOST MONEY EVER, why you have nowhere to go but down! ironclad logic there.
and in the long run of course, we all die. sic tempus fugit!
but of course Google will be exempt from such mortality. not "irreplaceable," tho. "inescapable" is the goal - Skynet.
I never said otherwise. Your second sentence was my point. I'm glad we are on the same page.
Perhaps you're right, maybe $600 phones and $1200+ PC's will still be a hot ticket item. My point is that it's more likely that search, mail, apps and cloud based computing will be around and will work fine on devices of any cost. Google has claimed a vast market of mobile devices. These are developing countries that will grow up on Google services. The same way Apple's education program allows students to grow up on Apple.
Again, kneejerk. I mean, i'm posting in an opinion piece with words like 'thermonuclear'. The whole thing is written like America invading Germany on D-Day. Yet my prior post is claiming Apple is 'doomed'. I have no idea how well they will be doing. My argument is that it's misleading to think android is failing because HTC, Samsung and whoever has thin margins, yet Google who is the architect of this whole thing now commands a monopoly on the mobile phone market. They sell Android for $0. Clearly they have a longer end game, and I don't think they are worried the pawns who license their software, as long as they continue to do it. Apple can beat up Samsung all day, Google sells their $0 software to $100 and $800 phones alike.
Remember google become a huge corporation by backstabbing and stealing from Apple.
I'll never forget when Eric Schmidt praised iPhone by saying "This is gonna be a hot product!" at the iPhone keynote.
And you better pray to Eric Schmidt Apple doesn't develop a search engine of its own.
Because when that day comes expect google to drop to its knees and lose upwards of %80 of its revenue stream.
It's always hilarious when morons mention google.com or laugh when iPhone users use google.com as if Apple is a competitor in search. You better hope they never are.
I never said otherwise. Your second sentence was my point. I'm glad we are on the same page.
Perhaps you're right, maybe $600 phones and $1200+ PC's will still be a hot ticket item. My point is that it's more likely that search, mail, apps and cloud based computing will be around and will work fine on devices of any cost. Google has claimed a vast market of mobile devices. These are developing countries that will grow up on Google services. The same way Apple's education program allows students to grow up on Apple.
Again, kneejerk. I mean, i'm posting in an opinion piece with words like 'thermonuclear'. The whole thing is written like America invading Germany on D-Day. Yet my prior post is claiming Apple is 'doomed'. I have no idea how well they will be doing. My argument is that it's misleading to think android is failing because HTC, Samsung and whoever has thin margins, yet Google who is the architect of this whole thing now commands a monopoly on the mobile phone market. They sell Android for $0. Clearly they have a longer end game, and I don't think they are worried the pawns who license their software, as long as they continue to do it. Apple can beat up Samsung all day, Google sells their $0 software to $100 and $800 phones alike.
You are right about the tone of these articles. You are wrong about Androids future. I don't see it surviving.
Here's why. First a quick question? Why did two OSes survive the 80's and not 10? And a second one? What was the biggest selling OS in early 1985? Third what happened to computer ASPs over the 80's?
Stew on that. Let me reiterate some fairly simple market theories.
1) a brand is as good as it's worst product, though this can be modified by after sales service. If a product is crap and gets recalled and compensated the brand can survive. Android as a brand is muck. The cheap phones have no compensatory service. They are just discarded.
2) companies need to make money.
My sister calls her phone a "crap Android". She loves her iPad ( I bought that) but is too cash strapped to get an iPhone. She also likes her husbands windows phone which is company bought. He doesn't. Both would prefer iPhones.
In 1985 the commodore 64 was the biggest selling computer on the planet. There were other competing OSes in the early 80's as prices plummeted and margins disappeared - commodore, BBC micro, Osborne, amiga and more. None survived the decade* except the expensive personal computers. The companies went bust. They were making no money.
The remaining companies sold expensive products. ASPs went up.
Note that this wasn't because of the simplistic reason often given - the market converged on one OS. that hasn't happened in game consoles and if IBM AND OS/2 got their act together there would have been 3 PC OSes. In mobiles I expect that Blackberry, Windows and ios will survive. Android needs to rebrand or start making money. ( and not just for Google). The only way to make money is to move upmarket to -- at least -- mid market as only there are margins big enough to survive. Waiting there are blackberry, Windows and possibly a future mid priced (by world standards) iphone.
I mean if Android's brand, or it's manufacturers brand like Samsung, were so sticky how do you explain the recent results?. With no brand loyalty and no profits the future is not rosy.
* Amiga spluttered on for a few years post 1990 but the point stands.
DED was quoted in an article titled "How Apple overtook Samsung-for now".
I don't think they like him
Throughout the discussion people have been pointing out how morons will point to marketshare in times like this... and then you come along and make this statement.
YOU have made a moron out of yourself!! Congrats!!
Samsung is SCUM. Nothing "great" about them at all. This is the company that was jealous of the people's mourning of Steve Jobs.
"Fairly" are you f***ing kidding me?!!
Yeah just like they compete fairly with Dyson and everyone else they stole from including the most obvious of all, Apple.
Moving forward:
I see sammy being even less relevant in 2015 and fandroids are quickly running to Xiaomi to be the next copycat savior.
But guess what? Even the next "iPhone killer" got trounced in their own homeland last quarter. That's not even the scary part!
The scary part is Xiaomi is stealing BILLIONS of dollars from android manufacturers only to return a few million for itself!!!
What is there to say now? WHAT???
Marketshare? Is that it?
Well you better hold on for dear life cause I see Apple taking from android every quarter and soon all those manufacturers you praise for marketshare will be losing BILLIONS and dropping out of the race against Apple.
?Pay is only getting started, a new Beats Music is launching, ?Watch will bring even more billions in revenue for Apple, the next iPhone is going to be even further advanced from the competition because of the race to the bottom(thanks Xiaomi!), contracts are ending and everyone wants a damn iPhone!!
If the competition thought 2014 was brutal 2015 is going to be an absolute NIGHT TERROR!!
Imagine that iPhone 6/6+ were only available for 3 months with the manufacture constraint but already caused this damage to Android devices. What will happen for the rest of this year when these large screen iPhones are fully available? Also, 2 year contracts are due for many 5/5S and other android owners's upgrade cycles too.
You are right about the tone of these articles. You are wrong about Androids future. I don't see it surviving.
Here's why. First a quick question? Why did two OSes survive the 80's and not 10? And a second one? What was the biggest selling OS in early 1985? Third what happened to computer ASPs over the 80's?
Stew on that. Let me reiterate some fairly simple market theories.
1) a brand is as good as it's worst product, though this can be modified by after sales service. If a product is crap and gets recalled and compensated the brand can survive. Android as a brand is muck. The cheap phones have no compensatory service. They are just discarded.
2) companies need to make money.
My sister calls her phone a "crap Android". She loves her iPad ( I bought that) but is too cash strapped to get an iPhone. She also likes her husbands windows phone which is company bought. He doesn't. Both would prefer iPhones.
In 1985 the commodore 64 was the biggest selling computer on the planet. There were other competing OSes in the early 80's as prices plummeted and margins disappeared - commodore, BBC micro, Osborne, amiga and more. None survived the decade* except the expensive personal computers. The companies went bust. They were making no money.
The remaining companies sold expensive products. ASPs went up.
Note that this wasn't because of the simplistic reason often given - the market converged on one OS. that hasn't happened in game consoles and if IBM AND OS/2 got their act together there would have been 3 PC OSes. In mobiles I expect that Blackberry, Windows and ios will survive. Android needs to rebrand or start making money. ( and not just for Google). The only way to make money is to move upmarket to -- at least -- mid market as only there are margins big enough to survive. Waiting there are blackberry, Windows and possibly a future mid priced (by world standards) iphone.
I mean if Android's brand, or it's manufacturers brand like Samsung, were so sticky how do you explain the recent results?. With no brand loyalty and no profits the future is not rosy.
* Amiga spluttered on for a few years post 1990 but the point stands.
Android will eventually be integrated with Chrome and probably released as new OS which won't be an open source. Everyone has to pay for license fees, no more parasitic smartphone manufacturers.
It's really misleading and inaccurate to use the term "thermonuclear assault" to describe Apple's competitive position against Samsung. That is such a loaded term, especially since it's how Steve Jobs characterized his revenge strategy against Android. Obviously you're trying to conjure that up, and apply it to the current situation with Samsung, as if it proves that Steve Jobs finally won his thermonuclear war... or something... but that's such a stretch, and it really makes you look ridiculous.
Apple isn't doing anything to specifically attack Samsung, beyond just making really good phones that people want to buy. That isn't an attack on Samsung, it's Apple's way of doing business against the entire mobile industry. Samsung was the biggest player, so they have suffered the most, but their problems have as much to do with themselves as they do with Apple. They've been making crappy phones for a long time, and people got tired of buying them. It's not just Apple that has benefitted from Samsung's demise. LG, for example, is also surging, albeit at a smaller scale.
In your mind you want this to be some vendetta strike against Samsung, to avenge Steve Jobs... but it just isn't. You're so invested in Apple scoring points that you've fabricated this silly "thermonuclear attack" fantasy in your head. It's laughable.
This article could have been so much more effective if you had just stuck with the facts, which are compelling, and left the petulant nonsense out.
My sister calls her phone a "crap Android". She loves her iPad ( I bought that) but is too cash strapped to get an iPhone. She also likes her husbands windows phone which is company bought. He doesn't. Both would prefer iPhones.
Value of used Android phone: $5
Cost of used iPhone 5s on Craigslist: $200
Cachet derived from possessing an Apple product: priceless!
For everyone else, there's Windows Everywhere
Interesting that Tim Cook was at IBM and Compaq during the era of many PC OSes.
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I don't think they like him
Throughout the discussion people have been pointing out how morons will point to marketshare in times like this... and then you come along and make this statement.
YOU have made a moron out of yourself!! Congrats!!
Samsung is SCUM. Nothing "great" about them at all. This is the company that was jealous of the people's mourning of Steve Jobs.
"Fairly" are you f***ing kidding me?!!
Yeah just like they compete fairly with Dyson and everyone else they stole from including the most obvious of all, Apple.
Moving forward:
I see sammy being even less relevant in 2015 and fandroids are quickly running to Xiaomi to be the next copycat savior.
But guess what? Even the next "iPhone killer" got trounced in their own homeland last quarter. That's not even the scary part!
The scary part is Xiaomi is stealing BILLIONS of dollars from android manufacturers only to return a few million for itself!!!
What is there to say now? WHAT???
Marketshare? Is that it?
Well you better hold on for dear life cause I see Apple taking from android every quarter and soon all those manufacturers you praise for marketshare will be losing BILLIONS and dropping out of the race against Apple.
?Pay is only getting started, a new Beats Music is launching, ?Watch will bring even more billions in revenue for Apple, the next iPhone is going to be even further advanced from the competition because of the race to the bottom(thanks Xiaomi!), contracts are ending and everyone wants a damn iPhone!!
If the competition thought 2014 was brutal 2015 is going to be an absolute NIGHT TERROR!!
Lawyers go where the money is.
The entire Engadget staff should be fired. I have no doubts in my mind that money is changing hands. They spin everything to make android/google/samsung look good and make apple look bad. Just recently the Thermonuclear obliteration of Samsung's profits was brushed over and the news was spun to basically say that android has 81% market share. Way to deflect attention from the real news. Apple should exclude Engadget from their events. Engadget is becoming less and less relevant as a tech blog. They can disappear as far as I'm concerned.
I'm glad to see Apple doing well, but the company should keep in mind that size and success can breed federal intervention, as when the Clinton administration took on Microsoft and when the Obama administration went after Apple and the Big Five publishers.
Apple needs to behave like a very, very good little boy, not doing anything that could get it into trouble. The company's executives should study the troubles AT&T and IBM got into decades ago when they tried to bully and control.
In the long run, 'going nuclear' may prove a very bad idea.
Ok, one part of this I agree with, and that is Apple needs to be cautious. While going "Thermonuclear" on Android may excite and please us iOS and Apple fans (and yes, I'm just as guilty about that as the rest of us), there is a real cautionary tale here to be had. If Apple has no real competitor to iOS, the government (i.e. the DOJ) may step in on "the behalf of the consumer" because we need to have a "competitive environment". So, we will have to deal with Android being around just to make sure the DOJ doesn't get its feathers ruffled and want to get rich quickly protect the consumer and sue Apple.
That said, I couldn't be more pleased with the implosion that Scamsung is encountering right now. Those cheats and schmucks just need to suffer greatly and then maybe the company's president can go commit Seppuku (yeah, I know, it is Japanese ritual suicide, but it wouldn't be the first thing that Scamsung stole, now would it?).
When they are not being sued by Bosch, Dyson, Whirlpool for stealing their IP / Designs too...
Hmm.. isn't Apple the most named defendant in IP lawsuits -- over 90 patent lawsuits over the past few years alone according to an old AI article? You forgot to mention Ericsson. Oh, and nVidia is not too far behind and will drop a bomb on Apple once they settle with Samsung.
Hmmm... the Ericsson lawsuit isn't about stealing IP. Ericsson is supposedly supplying IP to the LTE standard and they're just arguing over the amount. It's a totally different kettle of fish from what the OP was talking about.
Android market share makes a great headline... but there is never a compelling story after that.
And you just did it again... you stated the number and then walked away.
Congrats... you understand math. There are over 60 manufacturers shipping a billion Android smartphones a quarter. Of course Android will have a ton of market share.
So what is Android doing with that market share? There's got to be more than simply the number.
The iPhone has never had a high percentage of smartphone market share. Ever. In 8 years.
So that's a failure, right? :no:
I think others like Samsung and Google(android) have been the one's breaking the law ,but when a company like apple with all there market influence and power can't stop them in a court of law then no one can.
Um it's a business. Profitability is more important than market share. that doesn't mean it's the only goal nor does it mean profit at all cost.
Many People aren't happy with $200 phones or $300 PCs now. What makes you think they would be in 20 years? iPhones and Mac increased sales again. I see, it's the old "Apple is doomed in the future" meme.
I never said otherwise. Your second sentence was my point. I'm glad we are on the same page.
Perhaps you're right, maybe $600 phones and $1200+ PC's will still be a hot ticket item. My point is that it's more likely that search, mail, apps and cloud based computing will be around and will work fine on devices of any cost. Google has claimed a vast market of mobile devices. These are developing countries that will grow up on Google services. The same way Apple's education program allows students to grow up on Apple.
Again, kneejerk. I mean, i'm posting in an opinion piece with words like 'thermonuclear'. The whole thing is written like America invading Germany on D-Day. Yet my prior post is claiming Apple is 'doomed'. I have no idea how well they will be doing. My argument is that it's misleading to think android is failing because HTC, Samsung and whoever has thin margins, yet Google who is the architect of this whole thing now commands a monopoly on the mobile phone market. They sell Android for $0. Clearly they have a longer end game, and I don't think they are worried the pawns who license their software, as long as they continue to do it. Apple can beat up Samsung all day, Google sells their $0 software to $100 and $800 phones alike.
you're right! because once you become THE BIGGEST COMPANY IN THE WORLD, MAKING THE MOST MONEY EVER, why you have nowhere to go but down! ironclad logic there.
and in the long run of course, we all die. sic tempus fugit!
but of course Google will be exempt from such mortality. not "irreplaceable," tho. "inescapable" is the goal - Skynet.
1. Apple isn't the biggest company in the world.
2. Strawman
3. You quoted something from Terminator?
Not even worth it.
Remember google become a huge corporation by backstabbing and stealing from Apple.
I'll never forget when Eric Schmidt praised iPhone by saying "This is gonna be a hot product!" at the iPhone keynote.
And you better pray to Eric Schmidt Apple doesn't develop a search engine of its own.
Because when that day comes expect google to drop to its knees and lose upwards of %80 of its revenue stream.
It's always hilarious when morons mention google.com or laugh when iPhone users use google.com as if Apple is a competitor in search. You better hope they never are.
You are right about the tone of these articles. You are wrong about Androids future. I don't see it surviving.
Here's why. First a quick question? Why did two OSes survive the 80's and not 10? And a second one? What was the biggest selling OS in early 1985? Third what happened to computer ASPs over the 80's?
Stew on that. Let me reiterate some fairly simple market theories.
1) a brand is as good as it's worst product, though this can be modified by after sales service. If a product is crap and gets recalled and compensated the brand can survive. Android as a brand is muck. The cheap phones have no compensatory service. They are just discarded.
2) companies need to make money.
My sister calls her phone a "crap Android". She loves her iPad ( I bought that) but is too cash strapped to get an iPhone. She also likes her husbands windows phone which is company bought. He doesn't. Both would prefer iPhones.
In 1985 the commodore 64 was the biggest selling computer on the planet. There were other competing OSes in the early 80's as prices plummeted and margins disappeared - commodore, BBC micro, Osborne, amiga and more. None survived the decade* except the expensive personal computers. The companies went bust. They were making no money.
The remaining companies sold expensive products. ASPs went up.
Note that this wasn't because of the simplistic reason often given - the market converged on one OS. that hasn't happened in game consoles and if IBM AND OS/2 got their act together there would have been 3 PC OSes. In mobiles I expect that Blackberry, Windows and ios will survive. Android needs to rebrand or start making money. ( and not just for Google). The only way to make money is to move upmarket to -- at least -- mid market as only there are margins big enough to survive. Waiting there are blackberry, Windows and possibly a future mid priced (by world standards) iphone.
I mean if Android's brand, or it's manufacturers brand like Samsung, were so sticky how do you explain the recent results?. With no brand loyalty and no profits the future is not rosy.
* Amiga spluttered on for a few years post 1990 but the point stands.
DED was quoted in an article titled "How Apple overtook Samsung-for now".
I don't think they like him
Throughout the discussion people have been pointing out how morons will point to marketshare in times like this... and then you come along and make this statement.
YOU have made a moron out of yourself!! Congrats!!
Samsung is SCUM. Nothing "great" about them at all. This is the company that was jealous of the people's mourning of Steve Jobs.
"Fairly" are you f***ing kidding me?!!
Yeah just like they compete fairly with Dyson and everyone else they stole from including the most obvious of all, Apple.
Moving forward:
I see sammy being even less relevant in 2015 and fandroids are quickly running to Xiaomi to be the next copycat savior.
But guess what? Even the next "iPhone killer" got trounced in their own homeland last quarter. That's not even the scary part!
The scary part is Xiaomi is stealing BILLIONS of dollars from android manufacturers only to return a few million for itself!!!
What is there to say now? WHAT???
Marketshare? Is that it?
Well you better hold on for dear life cause I see Apple taking from android every quarter and soon all those manufacturers you praise for marketshare will be losing BILLIONS and dropping out of the race against Apple.
?Pay is only getting started, a new Beats Music is launching, ?Watch will bring even more billions in revenue for Apple, the next iPhone is going to be even further advanced from the competition because of the race to the bottom(thanks Xiaomi!), contracts are ending and everyone wants a damn iPhone!!
If the competition thought 2014 was brutal 2015 is going to be an absolute NIGHT TERROR!!
Imagine that iPhone 6/6+ were only available for 3 months with the manufacture constraint but already caused this damage to Android devices. What will happen for the rest of this year when these large screen iPhones are fully available? Also, 2 year contracts are due for many 5/5S and other android owners's upgrade cycles too.
You are right about the tone of these articles. You are wrong about Androids future. I don't see it surviving.
Here's why. First a quick question? Why did two OSes survive the 80's and not 10? And a second one? What was the biggest selling OS in early 1985? Third what happened to computer ASPs over the 80's?
Stew on that. Let me reiterate some fairly simple market theories.
1) a brand is as good as it's worst product, though this can be modified by after sales service. If a product is crap and gets recalled and compensated the brand can survive. Android as a brand is muck. The cheap phones have no compensatory service. They are just discarded.
2) companies need to make money.
My sister calls her phone a "crap Android". She loves her iPad ( I bought that) but is too cash strapped to get an iPhone. She also likes her husbands windows phone which is company bought. He doesn't. Both would prefer iPhones.
In 1985 the commodore 64 was the biggest selling computer on the planet. There were other competing OSes in the early 80's as prices plummeted and margins disappeared - commodore, BBC micro, Osborne, amiga and more. None survived the decade* except the expensive personal computers. The companies went bust. They were making no money.
The remaining companies sold expensive products. ASPs went up.
Note that this wasn't because of the simplistic reason often given - the market converged on one OS. that hasn't happened in game consoles and if IBM AND OS/2 got their act together there would have been 3 PC OSes. In mobiles I expect that Blackberry, Windows and ios will survive. Android needs to rebrand or start making money. ( and not just for Google). The only way to make money is to move upmarket to -- at least -- mid market as only there are margins big enough to survive. Waiting there are blackberry, Windows and possibly a future mid priced (by world standards) iphone.
I mean if Android's brand, or it's manufacturers brand like Samsung, were so sticky how do you explain the recent results?. With no brand loyalty and no profits the future is not rosy.
* Amiga spluttered on for a few years post 1990 but the point stands.
Android will eventually be integrated with Chrome and probably released as new OS which won't be an open source. Everyone has to pay for license fees, no more parasitic smartphone manufacturers.
Err, if something is over-priced, then you don't get what you've paid for.
Something can still be expensive (as in costly) but still be value for money.
YAY! Stole other companies Mojo's, called it their own and got away with it cause consumers will buy and blindly believer what apples says!
It's really misleading and inaccurate to use the term "thermonuclear assault" to describe Apple's competitive position against Samsung. That is such a loaded term, especially since it's how Steve Jobs characterized his revenge strategy against Android. Obviously you're trying to conjure that up, and apply it to the current situation with Samsung, as if it proves that Steve Jobs finally won his thermonuclear war... or something... but that's such a stretch, and it really makes you look ridiculous.
Apple isn't doing anything to specifically attack Samsung, beyond just making really good phones that people want to buy. That isn't an attack on Samsung, it's Apple's way of doing business against the entire mobile industry. Samsung was the biggest player, so they have suffered the most, but their problems have as much to do with themselves as they do with Apple. They've been making crappy phones for a long time, and people got tired of buying them. It's not just Apple that has benefitted from Samsung's demise. LG, for example, is also surging, albeit at a smaller scale.
In your mind you want this to be some vendetta strike against Samsung, to avenge Steve Jobs... but it just isn't. You're so invested in Apple scoring points that you've fabricated this silly "thermonuclear attack" fantasy in your head. It's laughable.
This article could have been so much more effective if you had just stuck with the facts, which are compelling, and left the petulant nonsense out.
Value of used Android phone: $5
Cost of used iPhone 5s on Craigslist: $200
Cachet derived from possessing an Apple product: priceless!
For everyone else, there's Windows Everywhere
Interesting that Tim Cook was at IBM and Compaq during the era of many PC OSes.