Would help sales were people such as I, still using the first generation iPad, to upgrade. I wonder how much though?
That is it in a nutshell. They are well made and a first generation iPad is still great for reading email, surfing the web, and lots of apps. People don't need to upgrade them frequently. Also the iPhone 6+ undoubtedly is stealing some ipad sales.
I work as a stagehand for IATSE, and I have seen first hand on several occasions where engineers will use iPads to remotely change mixer settings while on stage during sound checks. I tried to sneak a peak at the software but couldn't see what it was. It's pretty nice to stand where the musician would be and adjust his or her monitors. Also, most of those guys have stickers all over ALL the equipment they have, be it laptops, iPads, or any piece of equipment with a flat surface.
Apple probably has to hamstrung the older models. I say once an iPad gets 3 years old Apple should release new software that will make the 3 year old iPad so slow that the person is forced to upgrade. At this point iPad1 is still fast enough to run iOS8.
I don't know iPad1 can updade to iOS6. I wonder how you can update it to iOS8.
Any way, I have thought some more about the longevity issue. It's a mixed blessing/curse. On one hand, it slows new iPad sales. On the other hand, for people to upgrade, they can sell the old iPads easily, and each person who buys an old iPad would help expand iOS's reach by not buying a tablet from another platform. In a sense, old iPads choke other platforms. We see similar effects in the competition between iPhone and other smartphones. The longevity of iPhones seems to suppress other platforms. Maybe this is part of Apple's strategic plan?
I think the iPad is hugely successful and is the future of computing. I always enjoy Daniel's erudite articles.
The only puffing I can see is that caused by your huffing.
Does sarcasm have to be literally spelled out for you people? Okay, I will. I was attempting (unsuccessfully apparently) to be sarcastic about the slithering nincompoops who always have their knives out for Mr. Dilger whenever he publishes a positive report about Apple. I was mocking them, making fun of them by sarcastically preempting their usual responses. Hence the sarcastic retort that the iPad is an epic fail (in their eyes) when it obviously is no such thing.
Does sarcasm have to be literally spelled out for you people? Okay, I will. I was attempting (unsuccessfully apparently) to be sarcastic about the slithering nincompoops who always have their knives out for Mr. Dilger whenever he publishes a positive report about Apple. I was mocking them, making fun of them by sarcastically preempting their usual responses. Hence the sarcastic retort that the iPad is an epic fail (in their eyes) when it obviously is no such thing.
Now, if there's only a way to convey facial expression and vocal inflection on a comment board. . .
That is it in a nutshell. They are well made and a first generation iPad is still great for reading email, surfing the web, and lots of apps. People don't need to upgrade them frequently. Also the iPhone 6+ undoubtedly is stealing some ipad sales.
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Unlike PCs, iPads last very long time. I also have a 1st gen iPad. If it doesn't break, I can't buy a new one.
I had an iPhone 5 and was very happy with it. Intended to keep it for another year but replace my first gen iPad. Accidentally drowned the 5 (yes, it was an accident), bought a 6 Plus (beautiful) and so won't be buying the new iPad for a while. I could use a new iPad though and will probably replace mine within 12 months. I'm surprised at how well the larger iPhone obviates the need for my iPad for applications such as SignalScopePro for example and for watching video:
Does sarcasm have to be literally spelled out for you people? Okay, I will. I was attempting (unsuccessfully apparently) to be sarcastic about the slithering nincompoops who always have their knives out for Mr. Dilger whenever he publishes a positive report about Apple. I was mocking them, making fun of them by sarcastically preempting their usual responses. Hence the sarcastic retort that the iPad is an epic fail (in their eyes) when it obviously is no such thing.
I am confident that those who misunderstood you wanted to.
Another positive article about Apple by Mr. Dilger? Yet another puff piece? Let the sniping begin. The iPad is actually an epic fail by Apple since its sales are slipping, right? The fact that, as this article points out, the iPad sells more than Macs, sells more than any other tablet (because Google and Samsung refuse to report sales for obvious reasons) is irrelevant. It’s the epic fail that isn’t being reported here. Therefore Dilger is to be denigrated and made fun of.
In my opinion, when writing in a forum environments where we skim posts quickly, so if your first sentence, much less your first couple sentences, start off in the same manner and tone as the anti-Dilger crowd, with no apparent sarcasm until you get much further in and need to compare the later sentences to the initial one (as well as hyperbole and 'the turn' for humorous effect) it's possible your post won't be taken as sacrum. Remember we don't have the benefit of facial expressions, cadence of speak, tone, or other cues to know when one is being sarcastic so it needs to be more obvious in the writing than being spoken.
For commenters whose names and writing style we know well we go into the comment with an expectation. If that expectation is different from what we expected we might re-read their comment more carefully to make sure we didn't miss something, which is probably why we're shocked when one of these people we come to know by their writing over the months and years does write something we weren't expecting we are actually shocked by. I know am.
To be honest when I first bought it, I was hyped on iBooks and surfing the net but later on it just became a secondary device after I bought a MacBookAir. Main reason was the resolution and screen size differences. If there was somehow a bigger iPad then I would be in the market for that! Was glad to see RAM being increased in the IPad Air 2 so at least I know this is now the bare minimum spec in future iPads.
I also own an iPhone 6 Plus.. I compared this to an iPad mini and decided that is was a worthwhile decision since everything I do on iOS can be done just as well on iPhone 6 Plus. So I guess that's where some of the cannibalisation is.
The reason I wasn't too excited about bigger iPhones is cause I knew some people would skip buying an iPad.
Now I see people say "I don't need an iPad now".
Another problem is that the iPad isn't much more powerful than iPhone. Sometimes even less powerful.
EVERY single feature of this large device should be much much more advanced. The highest end iPhone should be as powerful(or less powerful) as the lowest end iPad.
There's no reason the camera should be so much worse than the iPhone.
iPad needs to be an all in one high tech "studio." Otherwise just get an iPhone.
No iPad "pro"?
No 12" iPad?
Nothing above 128GB?
No NFC?
REALLY?
We can make excuses all day that the smartphone market is more competitive, that the iPhone is the definitive handheld camera, but NONE will help the iPads case.
There's no excuse when we got such a large encasement. It's thin enough now, lets stop making it thinner and start making it better.
Does sarcasm have to be literally spelled out for you people? Okay, I will. I was attempting (unsuccessfully apparently) to be sarcastic about the slithering nincompoops who always have their knives out for Mr. Dilger whenever he publishes a positive report about Apple. I was mocking them, making fun of them by sarcastically preempting their usual responses. Hence the sarcastic retort that the iPad is an epic fail (in their eyes) when it obviously is no such thing.
You didn't make your post foolproof. In other words, you forgot that Benjamin Frost might read it.
Note on the location of the video shoot, particularly for [B]Dick Applebaum[/B]. The old Nayarit restaurant is now the Echo/Echoplex, major hipster venue on Sunset Blvd. at the bridge that goes over Glendale Blvd., in Echo Park, five minutes from downtown L.A.
Ten years ago, it was almost all Latino businesses along there. Now it's been almost completely hipsterized, as opposed to gentrified. Front lines in the battle between Android and Apple, with Apple now maybe regaining the mindshare edge. The iPad for "creatives" (and the big iPhones) are crucial in these areas of cultural churn, I think, thus the message of this commercial.
Apple probably has to hamstrung the older models. I say once an iPad gets 3 years old Apple should release new software that will make the 3 year old iPad so slow that the person is forced to upgrade. At this point iPad1 is still fast enough to run iOS8.
Apple should intentionally cripple the products of people who've chosen, for whatever reason, not to upgrade? I mean sure: if iOS 9 or 10 does something that's both amazing and so system-intensive that I feel like I need it and can't run it on my 2, that's fair game. But if Apple were simply intentionally make my product slower than it could be, I don't think I'd ever buy an Apple product again.
I really think that it's the larger-screened phones that are hurting the iPad more than anything else. I know I'm using my phone ever more and my iPad ever less.
I had an iPhone 5 and was very happy with it. Intended to keep it for another year but replace my first gen iPad. Accidentally drowned the 5 (yes, it was an accident), bought a 6 Plus (beautiful) and so won't be buying the new iPad for a while. I could use a new iPad though and will probably replace mine within 12 months. I'm surprised at how well the larger iPhone obviates the need for my iPad for applications such as SignalScopePro for example and for watching video:
The reason I wasn't too excited about bigger iPhones is cause I knew some people would skip buying an iPad.
Now I see people say "I don't need an iPad now".
Another problem is that the iPad isn't much more powerful than iPhone. Sometimes even less powerful.
EVERY single feature of this large device should be much much more advanced. The highest end iPhone should be as powerful(or less powerful) as the lowest end iPad.
There's no reason the camera should be so much worse than the iPhone.
iPad needs to be an all in one high tech "studio." Otherwise just get an iPhone.
No iPad "pro"?
No 12" iPad?
Nothing above 128GB?
No NFC?
REALLY?
We can make excuses all day that the smartphone market is more competitive, that the iPhone is the definitive handheld camera, but NONE will help the iPads case.
There's no excuse when we got such a large encasement. It's thin enough now, lets stop making it thinner and start making it better.
These are good suggestions, and maybe the kind of thing that Tim Cook is talking about when he says he remains positive on the platform's future. One can hope, anyway.
Apple should intentionally cripple the products of people who've chosen, for whatever reason, not to upgrade? I mean sure: if iOS 9 or 10 does something that's both amazing and so system-intensive that I feel like I need it and can't run it on my 2, that's fair game. But if Apple were simply intentionally make my product slower than it could be, I don't think I'd ever buy an Apple product again.
I really think that it's the larger-screened phones that are hurting the iPad more than anything else. I know I'm using my phone ever more and my iPad ever less.
I have to agree with this. Somebody has been doping sog35's Kool-Aid.
I really think that it's the larger-screened phones that are hurting the iPad more than anything else. I know I'm using my phone ever more and my iPad ever less.
The iPad is the industry's fastest growing product ever. It surpassed the iPhone and it did that without the benefit of any real innovation in tech like the iPhone had over the Blackberry "smartphones" as well as without being heavily subsidized by the carriers. So it reached its apex much sooner than a lot of products, but that's a positive statement of the product as being so desirable by so many that would fit its market. Remember tablets had been tried for decades with no success.
That apex is important because it happened a year before the larger iPhone (unless you're counting the 4" over the 3.5"). That said, I think it's clear that the iPhone 6 series is definitely eating into some of the iPad market — I certainly don't need to have an iPad mini any longer for those very few and far between use cases since getting the iPhone 6 Plus, but I was never the target market for the iPad in the first place — but we have even evidence it was already falling quickly already.
But we shouldn't see that a lack of interest in the iPad, but rather such a great product that their target market are very happy with the one they currently are using. Anecdotally, most people I know that uses their iPad as their primary "PC" are somewhat challenged by technology in general. These are the people that aren't likely to read up on all the latest aspects of the new device and then weigh it against their current model to see if the pros (and any cons) are weighed well enough to favour an update. No, these people are mostly going to use theres for many years and will probably only want to buy a new one if there is some single, future feature they decide they want.
I work as a stagehand for IATSE, and I have seen first hand on several occasions where engineers will use iPads to remotely change mixer settings while on stage during sound checks. I tried to sneak a peak at the software but couldn't see what it was. It's pretty nice to stand where the musician would be and adjust his or her monitors.
Also, most of those guys have stickers all over ALL the equipment they have, be it laptops, iPads, or any piece of equipment with a flat surface.
Likely software from the manufacturer of the mixing console itself. Many of the top consoles (like Midas or Soundcraft) have remote iPad Apps for adjusting sound. However, since many consoles have support for Ethernet (and they often publish their protocols), then theoretically anyone could write their own remote App.
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That is it in a nutshell. They are well made and a first generation iPad is still great for reading email, surfing the web, and lots of apps. People don't need to upgrade them frequently. Also the iPhone 6+ undoubtedly is stealing some ipad sales.
Also, most of those guys have stickers all over ALL the equipment they have, be it laptops, iPads, or any piece of equipment with a flat surface.
Would help sales were people such as I, still using the first generation iPad, to upgrade. I wonder how much though?
Unlike PCs, iPads last very long time. I also have a 1st gen iPad. If it doesn't break, I can't buy a new one.
Apple probably has to hamstrung the older models. I say once an iPad gets 3 years old Apple should release new software that will make the 3 year old iPad so slow that the person is forced to upgrade. At this point iPad1 is still fast enough to run iOS8.
I don't know iPad1 can updade to iOS6. I wonder how you can update it to iOS8.
Any way, I have thought some more about the longevity issue. It's a mixed blessing/curse. On one hand, it slows new iPad sales. On the other hand, for people to upgrade, they can sell the old iPads easily, and each person who buys an old iPad would help expand iOS's reach by not buying a tablet from another platform. In a sense, old iPads choke other platforms. We see similar effects in the competition between iPhone and other smartphones. The longevity of iPhones seems to suppress other platforms. Maybe this is part of Apple's strategic plan?
I disagree.
I think the iPad is hugely successful and is the future of computing. I always enjoy Daniel's erudite articles.
The only puffing I can see is that caused by your huffing.
Does sarcasm have to be literally spelled out for you people? Okay, I will. I was attempting (unsuccessfully apparently) to be sarcastic about the slithering nincompoops who always have their knives out for Mr. Dilger whenever he publishes a positive report about Apple. I was mocking them, making fun of them by sarcastically preempting their usual responses. Hence the sarcastic retort that the iPad is an epic fail (in their eyes) when it obviously is no such thing.
Does sarcasm have to be literally spelled out for you people? Okay, I will. I was attempting (unsuccessfully apparently) to be sarcastic about the slithering nincompoops who always have their knives out for Mr. Dilger whenever he publishes a positive report about Apple. I was mocking them, making fun of them by sarcastically preempting their usual responses. Hence the sarcastic retort that the iPad is an epic fail (in their eyes) when it obviously is no such thing.
Now, if there's only a way to convey facial expression and vocal inflection on a comment board. . .
That is it in a nutshell. They are well made and a first generation iPad is still great for reading email, surfing the web, and lots of apps. People don't need to upgrade them frequently. Also the iPhone 6+ undoubtedly is stealing some ipad sales.
Unlike PCs, iPads last very long time. I also have a 1st gen iPad. If it doesn't break, I can't buy a new one.
I had an iPhone 5 and was very happy with it. Intended to keep it for another year but replace my first gen iPad. Accidentally drowned the 5 (yes, it was an accident), bought a 6 Plus (beautiful) and so won't be buying the new iPad for a while. I could use a new iPad though and will probably replace mine within 12 months. I'm surprised at how well the larger iPhone obviates the need for my iPad for applications such as SignalScopePro for example and for watching video:
Does sarcasm have to be literally spelled out for you people? Okay, I will. I was attempting (unsuccessfully apparently) to be sarcastic about the slithering nincompoops who always have their knives out for Mr. Dilger whenever he publishes a positive report about Apple. I was mocking them, making fun of them by sarcastically preempting their usual responses. Hence the sarcastic retort that the iPad is an epic fail (in their eyes) when it obviously is no such thing.
I am confident that those who misunderstood you wanted to.
In my opinion, when writing in a forum environments where we skim posts quickly, so if your first sentence, much less your first couple sentences, start off in the same manner and tone as the anti-Dilger crowd, with no apparent sarcasm until you get much further in and need to compare the later sentences to the initial one (as well as hyperbole and 'the turn' for humorous effect) it's possible your post won't be taken as sacrum. Remember we don't have the benefit of facial expressions, cadence of speak, tone, or other cues to know when one is being sarcastic so it needs to be more obvious in the writing than being spoken.
For commenters whose names and writing style we know well we go into the comment with an expectation. If that expectation is different from what we expected we might re-read their comment more carefully to make sure we didn't miss something, which is probably why we're shocked when one of these people we come to know by their writing over the months and years does write something we weren't expecting we are actually shocked by. I know am.
The reason I wasn't too excited about bigger iPhones is cause I knew some people would skip buying an iPad.
Now I see people say "I don't need an iPad now".
Another problem is that the iPad isn't much more powerful than iPhone. Sometimes even less powerful.
EVERY single feature of this large device should be much much more advanced. The highest end iPhone should be as powerful(or less powerful) as the lowest end iPad.
There's no reason the camera should be so much worse than the iPhone.
iPad needs to be an all in one high tech "studio." Otherwise just get an iPhone.
No iPad "pro"?
No 12" iPad?
Nothing above 128GB?
No NFC?
REALLY?
We can make excuses all day that the smartphone market is more competitive, that the iPhone is the definitive handheld camera, but NONE will help the iPads case.
There's no excuse when we got such a large encasement. It's thin enough now, lets stop making it thinner and start making it better.
You didn't make your post foolproof. In other words, you forgot that Benjamin Frost might read it.
Ten years ago, it was almost all Latino businesses along there. Now it's been almost completely hipsterized, as opposed to gentrified. Front lines in the battle between Android and Apple, with Apple now maybe regaining the mindshare edge. The iPad for "creatives" (and the big iPhones) are crucial in these areas of cultural churn, I think, thus the message of this commercial.
Apple probably has to hamstrung the older models. I say once an iPad gets 3 years old Apple should release new software that will make the 3 year old iPad so slow that the person is forced to upgrade. At this point iPad1 is still fast enough to run iOS8.
Apple should intentionally cripple the products of people who've chosen, for whatever reason, not to upgrade? I mean sure: if iOS 9 or 10 does something that's both amazing and so system-intensive that I feel like I need it and can't run it on my 2, that's fair game. But if Apple were simply intentionally make my product slower than it could be, I don't think I'd ever buy an Apple product again.
I really think that it's the larger-screened phones that are hurting the iPad more than anything else. I know I'm using my phone ever more and my iPad ever less.
The apps worked great on iOS 7.
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Further proving my point above.
iPad just isn't different or better enough.
These are good suggestions, and maybe the kind of thing that Tim Cook is talking about when he says he remains positive on the platform's future. One can hope, anyway.
I have to agree with this. Somebody has been doping sog35's Kool-Aid.
The iPad is the industry's fastest growing product ever. It surpassed the iPhone and it did that without the benefit of any real innovation in tech like the iPhone had over the Blackberry "smartphones" as well as without being heavily subsidized by the carriers. So it reached its apex much sooner than a lot of products, but that's a positive statement of the product as being so desirable by so many that would fit its market. Remember tablets had been tried for decades with no success.
That apex is important because it happened a year before the larger iPhone (unless you're counting the 4" over the 3.5"). That said, I think it's clear that the iPhone 6 series is definitely eating into some of the iPad market — I certainly don't need to have an iPad mini any longer for those very few and far between use cases since getting the iPhone 6 Plus, but I was never the target market for the iPad in the first place — but we have even evidence it was already falling quickly already.
But we shouldn't see that a lack of interest in the iPad, but rather such a great product that their target market are very happy with the one they currently are using. Anecdotally, most people I know that uses their iPad as their primary "PC" are somewhat challenged by technology in general. These are the people that aren't likely to read up on all the latest aspects of the new device and then weigh it against their current model to see if the pros (and any cons) are weighed well enough to favour an update. No, these people are mostly going to use theres for many years and will probably only want to buy a new one if there is some single, future feature they decide they want.
Likely software from the manufacturer of the mixing console itself. Many of the top consoles (like Midas or Soundcraft) have remote iPad Apps for adjusting sound. However, since many consoles have support for Ethernet (and they often publish their protocols), then theoretically anyone could write their own remote App.