Rumor: Apple may open iOS pre-releases to average consumers in expanded public beta program [u]

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  • Reply 21 of 57
    GrangerFX wrote: »
    When Apple releases a beta of iOS, they tell developers to not use on any device they actually use. That's good advice because you don't want to find out your data was trashed or your phone locks up. Unfortunately that also means that there are few people testing iOS for many common uses before it is released. With a period of open beta, Apple is simply formalizing a process that already exists. The first few release versions of iOS have many bugs. Users know this which is why so many people put off upgrading to iOS 8 for a revision or three after it was released. With iOS 9, the first few release candidate versions will now be an open beta allowing interested users to try a fairly stable version of the new OS on their mobile devices before the release. That means that the GM version will be more stable for everyone. This is a really great plan and I commend Apple for doing it.

    They aren't doing anything yet, this is a rumor.
  • Reply 22 of 57
    slurpyslurpy Posts: 5,382member
    So I guess I must have a magical version of iOS8 on my 5C, 6, and iPad Air 2? Cause it's rock solid on all 3. Yes, there's the occasional bug and VERY rare crash, but nothing even close to the sensationalism described here.
  • Reply 23 of 57
    mike1 wrote: »
    sog35 wrote: »
     

    wow.  never had a single problem with iOS8
    Me neither.

    Perhaps, you're holding it wrong ...
  • Reply 24 of 57
    slurpy wrote: »
    So I guess I must have a magical version of iOS8 on my 5C, 6, and iPad Air 2? Cause it's rock solid on all 3. Yes, there's the occasional bug and VERY rare crash, but nothing even close to the sensationalism described here.

    Obviously others could be having issues we're not, and our lack of issues does not mean there are no issues, but from what I've read they sound like glitches in their updates, not specifically with iOS 8 across the board. I think people have forgotten just how buggy iOS 2 nee iPhone OS 2 nee OS X iPhone 2 was for everybody. Apple's first update to iOS and the most important features were crashing constantly, not to mention they just came off of having nearly 2 months of zero iPhone sales.
  • Reply 25 of 57
    iOS 8 has definitely been buggy. Although it seems like many of these bugs could have been identified and resolved without a public beta.
  • Reply 26 of 57
    sog35 wrote: »
    You should go back to Android since you expect perfection

    You should have a doctor look at your jerking knee condition.
  • Reply 27 of 57
    I used iOS from 1.1.3. I downloaded 2.0 the day it came out (once the iPocalypse ended...) iOS 8 is buggier. It's random bugs too, which is the most annoying.

    I do not recall specific bugs with iOS 2. However, in pretty sure I would have remembered if my phone would have made calls to different numbers than displayed, freeze during a call, sort of reboot sting a call (black screen, then startup screen, no sound, but afterwards connection is still there), inability to answer calls from lockscreen. Independent. Of what was going on at version 2, I would expect to have such things work more reliavke by now, not the opposite.
  • Reply 28 of 57
    jfc1138jfc1138 Posts: 3,090member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by schlack View Post



    iOS 8 has definitely been buggy. Although it seems like many of these bugs could have been identified and resolved without a public beta.



    Only bugs within the iOS, bugs that are issues of specific app compatibility can be more elusive.

  • Reply 29 of 57
    croprcropr Posts: 1,122member

    Looking at how many bugs Yosemite has, I wonder how anyone can call the beta program a success.

     

    This mess is something Apple should not copy for iOS.

  • Reply 30 of 57
    I haven't had almost any of the bugs that other people seem to be complaining about with iOS 8. I have had problems though with my auto rotation not working or the "raise to talk/raise to listen" feature not recognizing that I've raised my phone. The autorotation seems to be particularly buggy on Messages. I often have to go back to the home screen and restart the app before it will rotate to the correct rotation. When I use the raise to talk feature I more often experience the screen rotating and staying on rather than turning off and recording my voice message like it should. Yosemite had a major bug where Finder refused to show any files in certain folders also. They wouldn't bother me so much if it were new software that had just been released but I still have these problems even with the most recent updates.
  • Reply 31 of 57
    sog35 wrote: »
    you should have a doctor look at your mole hill.

    Nah, it's funnier when I do it. You need to work on your wit. Try not taking offense at everything, for starters.
  • Reply 32 of 57
    slurpyslurpy Posts: 5,382member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cropr View Post

     

    Looking at how many bugs Yosemite has, I wonder how anyone can call the beta program a success.

     

    This mess is something Apple should not copy for iOS.


     

    That has more to do with the fact that both Yosemite and iOS8 incorporate massive under the hood changes and features comapred to their predecessors. Yosemite is the biggest visual change in OSX ever, adds unprecedented iOS integration and stuff like iCloud Drive, and massive changes to all built in apps like Safari. iOS8, while visually not much different, probably added more features and under the hood changes than any previous version- from extensions, to support for 3rd party KBs, support for Swift, tight OSX integration, continuity, healthkit, homekit, family sharing, messaging, etc. Oh, and it was made to run on a much expanded number of screen sizes and devices. Bugs are expected with this many moving parts, and I wouldnt put the blame on the beta program. 

  • Reply 33 of 57
    Good, Assumed this was there strategy, but with people complaining about normal bugs, that's 1. Thing, but I feel they will complain a whole lot more not knowing what a beta is. People on OS X seem to have more sence.
  • Reply 34 of 57
    chasmchasm Posts: 3,273member
    I doubt the entire nature of this article (a comment directed at 9to5, not AI). The source article has ZERO source for this and it sounds like educated guesses mixed with BS to me.

    On top of the issues beta testers would encounter since they don't have a spare iOS device to test on (betas are *explicitly never* to be tested on "production" machines), there's also the problem of downgrading -- as in, you can't.

    So you beta-test 8.3, find a showstopper bug that affects you, and then can't downgrade back to 8.2? NA GA HA PEN.
  • Reply 35 of 57
    sog35 wrote: »
    I'm not taking offense. just speaking the truth.

    maybe you should switch to android then you would appreciate the greatness of iOS instead of bitching about every little bug

    LOL. You and "truth". Right. Those two sets do not intersect. Maybe you should lighten up and then you wouldn't take a little criticism of iOS so personally (I mean, why? Is Apple your mother?). As it stands, your ridiculous overreaction to my criticism borders on some hyperbolic parody of a "rabid forum fanboy," because--as my posting history attests--I'm anything but a Fandroid.
  • Reply 36 of 57
    pmzpmz Posts: 3,433member


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

    What a horrible idea.


     

    I agree.

     

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

    At least the morons selling UDIDs would be out of business.


     

    Doubtful. Anyone dumb enough to buy one before is still dumb enough to buy again.

  • Reply 37 of 57
    sog35 wrote: »
    <div class="quote-container" data-huddler-embed="/t/184882/rumor-apple-may-open-ios-pre-releases-to-average-consumers-in-expanded-public-beta-program#post_2679159" data-huddler-embed-placeholder="false">Quote:<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Slurpy</strong> <a href="/t/184882/rumor-apple-may-open-ios-pre-releases-to-average-consumers-in-expanded-public-beta-program#post_2679159"><img alt="View Post" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" /></a><br /><br />So I guess I must have a magical version of iOS8 on my 5C, 6, and iPad Air 2? Cause it's rock solid on all 3. Yes, there's the occasional bug and VERY rare crash, but nothing even close to the sensationalism described here.</div></div><p> </p><p>I agree 100% with this.  Own 5S, 6+, and iPadAir.  I had a few minor bugs but who cares.</p><p> </p><p>Some trolls here expect everything to work PERFECT 100% of the time.  </p>
    With some here the response is that Apple is perfect.
  • Reply 38 of 57
    Good! I'll be willing to put up with some bugs to get a better experience in the end. iOS 8, to me, is probably the worst version of iOS ever from a reliability standpoint. So many stupid little bugs.

    Agreed.

    On balance, as Yosemite is markedly more stable than iOS 8, I'm inclined to see this as a wise move.
  • Reply 39 of 57
    irnchrizirnchriz Posts: 1,616member
    Lots of grumpy haters here but I have have no issues with iOS 8 either in my iPad 2 or iPhone 6 Plus. A beta program would be good, obviously they would have to put in place a system to allow you to restore you're device to pre beta format but other than that it is a good idea.

    I run OS X 10.10 on my macs and iOS 8.1.3 on my devices with zero issues. I work in a Microsoft world and love the fact that my home Mac world and devices are 99% trouble free
  • Reply 40 of 57
    yuck9yuck9 Posts: 112member

    Yeah, that worked great for Yosemite. NOT

     

    Wi-Fi still not working. Slow as hell. List is long.

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