Rumor: 12.9" iPad is latest Apple device claimed to feature next-gen IGZO display

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in Future Apple Hardware edited March 2015
Apple's upcoming 12.9-inch iPad -- commonly referred to as the "iPad Pro" -- will make use of an oxide LCD, most popularly known as Sharp's IGZO display technology, a new report from the company's supply chain claims.




Citing supply chain sources, the hit-or-miss DigiTimes reported on Thursday that Apple has been testing a variety of technologies, including a-Si and TFT. Oxide, though, was reportedly chosen just recently because it offers the best balance in terms of cost versus performance, and it permits fast response times and high image quality while reducing power consumption.

DigiTimes and its supply chain sources are known for having an unreliable track record in predicting Apple's future product plans, but the publication does on occasion accurately indicate what direction the iPad maker is headed.

Sharp, LG Display, and Samsung Display are said to have sent production samples to Apple. Sharp is poised to be the primary supplier, due to its expertise in oxide, as the company is well-known for its IGZO (indium gallium zinc oxide) panels. Apple is however thought to want a secondary supplier to ensure production is uninterrupted, and LG is speculated to be the leading candidate for that role.

The sources say that suppliers should be locked in soon, and begin producing a limited number of panels around May, entering into mass production in July and August. The people also state that the new iPad won't go into production until sometime in the third quarter, which echoes a another report from this week that indicated the tablet won't enter production until September.

It's also been suggested that Apple still hasn't finalized the design of the iPad Pro, and could add new features geared toward enterprise users. Specifically, it's been said the product could upgrade to USB 3.0, or even add ports for connecting a keyboard and mouse, although that would break with the single-port design philosophy used since the first-generation iPad.

Apple has been rumored to adopt Sharp's IGZO technology in its products for years, though to date it has opted for LCDs with in-plane switching. The panels offer advantages over traditional LCDs, but are also more expensive.

An oxide semiconductor, IGZO is about 10 times faster in electron mobility than an amorphous silicon semiconductor. This allows the technology to consume far less power in operation. IGZO also requires smaller wiring, which also contributes to its lower power consumption.
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  • Reply 1 of 29
    macapfelmacapfel Posts: 494member
    The most important thing is, it's retina. I will never ever buy any non-retina device.
  • Reply 2 of 29
    flaneurflaneur Posts: 4,483member
    ^^^ Yes, but how retina? Like 4k retina? That's what I want to see. Can anyone work out the pixel density and a likely resolution?
  • Reply 3 of 29
    The iPad Air is already IGZO...so they aren't rumored to adopt it, they have.
  • Reply 4 of 29
    flaneurflaneur Posts: 4,483member
    ^^^ And so is the 5K iMac. I figure that they're finally getting production up to speed. Cinema Displays should be next. But maybe, it just occurs to me, LG is the manufacturer.
  • Reply 5 of 29
    calicali Posts: 3,495member
    flaneur wrote: »
    ^^^ And so is the 5K iMac. I figure that they're finally getting production up to speed. Cinema Displays should be next. But maybe, it just occurs to me, LG is the manufacturer.

    As long as they get away from Sammy.

    I would like to see Apple make their own displays.
  • Reply 6 of 29
    A 12.9" display will really make the iPad an optimal device for magazines and comics, which presently tend to be handicapped due to the small font size.

    It will also improve many sites in Safari, transform watching video and make games even more eye-candyish. Productivity apps will become easier to use, thanks to the greater area when using the keyboard.

    I hope it has four speakers, one on each side.

    One more thing: reading and composing music will become much easier. Plonk it on a piano, iPhone on the floor watching your foot, and you can play without needing to turn the page by hand.
  • Reply 7 of 29
    iaeeniaeen Posts: 588member
    flaneur wrote: »
    ^^^ Yes, but how retina? Like 4k retina? That's what I want to see. Can anyone work out the pixel density and a likely resolution?

    Why? The pixels are already too small to distinguish with the unaided eye. Adding more in the same space just requires more power with no benefit ( unless you intend to frequently look at your screen through a jewelers loop).
  • Reply 8 of 29

    "DigiTimes and its supply chain sources are known for having an unreliable track record in predicting Apple's future product plans" So, why do you bother to report this? Waste of time.

  • Reply 9 of 29
    gqbgqb Posts: 1,934member
    Ironic that after my first few iPad years of wanting a mini-sized iPad, I've now decided that a 12.9 will be better at the things I really use my iPad for.
    Literally, the only thing I actually use my Mac for anymore is the occasional DVD/CD rip (very seldom) and when I need multiple windows and better input.
    This rumored iPad Pro (along with similarly rumored iOS productivity improvements) may be the final bridge I need to go completely iPad.
  • Reply 10 of 29
    solipsismysolipsismy Posts: 5,099member
    Another IGZO rumour? At this point IGZO seems as likely as unicorn bacon.

    [IMG ALT=""]http://forums.appleinsider.com/content/type/61/id/56181/width/350/height/700[/IMG]
  • Reply 11 of 29
    solipsismysolipsismy Posts: 5,099member
    iaeen wrote: »
    Why? The pixels are already too small to distinguish with the unaided eye. Adding more in the same space just requires more power with no benefit ( unless you intend to frequently look at your screen through a jewelers loop).

    That's not quite accurate. Vision isn't cut and dry so the Retina qualification they stated is referencing 20/20 vision for the given distances. There surely are people that have much better vision than the inaccurate designation of 20/20 vision as perfect. But for most people, you're right, it's more than enough as is. At some the level of pixel density from any distance will be too small for any human to discern with the unaided eye, but not at the current Retina levels we have in our devices.


    PS: I recently had Lasik. My eyes weren't that bad but I wanted them to be better. I have a 60" (actual 59.5") 1080p television with my eyes about 8' (96") from the display when sitting on the couch. That's a PPI of 37.02. With the equation: 3438 * (1/ppi) = d, with d being the minimum distance to get the Retina effect with 20/20 vision I need to sit a little over 93" away. With a distance of 96" I am there. Now, with a still image on screen I can't discern pixels, but when playing a pixel-for-pixel 1080p video I can sometimes discern them with certain motions and/or color combinations, which wasn't possible before the procedure.

    700
    (Subconscious expectation from my Lasik procedure)
  • Reply 12 of 29
    flaneurflaneur Posts: 4,483member
    solipsismy wrote: »
    Another IGZO rumour? At this point IGZO seems as likely as unicorn bacon.

    700

    Yet oxide backplanes have made it into two impressive Apple products that we know of. The reason that iPad Air is so thin, and the reason that the 5K iMac has the same power and cooling layout as the previous iMac, and the reason that the 12.9" iPad will be so physically and visually impressive—Suddenly Newton's stupid pink unicorns.

    As far as I know, horse bacon is shunned by all civilized people.
  • Reply 13 of 29
    solipsismysolipsismy Posts: 5,099member
    flaneur wrote: »
    Yet oxide backplanes have made it into two impressive Apple products that we know of.

    1) What products?

    2) Are you saying that it's IGZO?

    3) Are there other competing technologies that Apple can use?
  • Reply 14 of 29
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,399member

    image

     

    It was 2013.

    You were making a different iPhone.

    It sounded really keen.

    And I wrote, “Next one’ll have a new screen,” yeah yeah,

    It was like a dream, It wasn’t what I mean(t)

    Oh, no, IGZO, IGZO,

     

    I never knew what they’d make that night,

    I never cared what was wrong or right,

    I only wanted my minute in the spot

    So I dragged crap out of the pot and reported on it

     

    I never thought that they would listen to me,

    Taking as truth my lies and fallacy,

    I only wanted to get that week’s paycheck

    So I could spend it on some dreck from Samsung

     

    Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah (yeah)…

  • Reply 15 of 29
    DigiTimes throws all kinds of rumors against the wall and hopes something sticks. How about the rumor that the large iPad is designed for Bigfoots?
  • Reply 16 of 29
    "DigiTimes and its supply chain sources are known for having an unreliable track record in predicting Apple's future product plans" So, why do you bother to report this? Waste of time.

    Because posting IGZO rumors into the forums is like throwing fresh meat into an alligator pond.
  • Reply 17 of 29
    flaneur wrote: »
    Suddenly Newton's stupid pink unicorns.

    As far as I know, horse bacon is shunned by all civilized people.

    Yes, but have you TRIED unicorn bacon?
    Calling a unicorn a horse is like calling IGZO a Passive STN display. Surely you understand that analogy, Flaneur.
  • Reply 18 of 29
    19831983 Posts: 1,132member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Flaneur View Post



    ^^^ Yes, but how retina? Like 4k retina? That's what I want to see. Can anyone work out the pixel density and a likely resolution?



    2304x3072 pixels at 297.67 PPI. If the screen had a 12.8" diagonal rather than the rumoured 12.9" one, it would be exactly 300 PPI, which is what you get on most printed magazines. This iPad would make a great magazine replacement, something the current iPad Air 2 is not quite large enough for IMHO.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Benjamin Frost View Post



    A 12.9" display will really make the iPad an optimal device for magazines and comics, which presently tend to be handicapped due to the small font size.



    It will also improve many sites in Safari, transform watching video and make games even more eye-candyish. Productivity apps will become easier to use, thanks to the greater area when using the keyboard.



    I hope it has four speakers, one on each side.



    One more thing: reading and composing music will become much easier. Plonk it on a piano, iPhone on the floor watching your foot, and you can play without needing to turn the page by hand.



    That's what I think too, and is why I've held off purchasing an iPad so far. I mainly want one to replace the tonnage of heavy paper magazines I currently schlep around with me and store at home in paper towers!

  • Reply 19 of 29
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 12,645member
    cali wrote: »
    As long as they get away from Sammy.

    I would like to see Apple make their own displays.

    Considering how Apple financed Sharp through bad times they pretty much own Sharp now. If not Sharp the plant that the displays are built in. In fact in some of the trades it has been suggested that the management at Sharp has been trying to regain control of the plant.
  • Reply 20 of 29
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 8,360member

    How is this even a rumor?

     

    It would be news if the iPad Pro did not use an IGZO display, since the Air and Air 2 both use an IGZO display.

     

    This rumor is just dumb, and beyond obvious. This is like predicting that the new BMW car is going to have four tires.

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