For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things. Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen. For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Though they know God’s righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them. (?Romans? ?1?:?18-32? ESV)
Dude, copy an paste is what they have done to your brain. If you actually looked at your bible, you would see paragraph returns an verse numbers. No one is going to filter through that incoherent stream of doctrine to glean any relevance out of that scripture/rant, not to mention that it is complete bull shit anyway, But that is another topic.
I'm not saying it's okay to discriminate just because a person is homosexual. This issue is specifically about marriage. I know you don't believe in or have any respect for God (though you should!), but millions do.
And these millions understand He created us as the highest form of His creation (so we are extremely valued and valuable), and He made us man and woman and tells us (many times) that we were made for one another. He also called homosexuality a perversion and an abomination that are actions a person can take. But God is clear that we can repent of these things and be forgiven.
So, millions have this belief and respect for God and it is more important for us to obey His will rather than what society dictates when it's dictates are in direct opposition against God's character and creation (specifically in relation to homosexual marriage).
We will NOT support or promote homosexual marriage – and many are willing to stand firm on this even if you or the government take everything from us (our businesses, our homes, our lives).
If there are any Christ followers out there on this forum, people need to know this is wrong (homosexual marriage). The truth of God is offensive and foolish to those who are perishing but that doesn't mean we stay silent!
If you are foolish enough to believe in fairies in the sky and live your life by a book of fiction then fine by me but stop telling other people how they have to live their lives.
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things. Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen. For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Though they know God’s righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them. (?Romans? ?1?:?18-32? ESV)
I'm sure you could have made whatever point your trying to make in a more succinct way... I'm not reading all that.
Also, we don't live in a theocracy, so this is non sequitur. I don't give a frack about any of this. Doesn't mean I don't help my neighbor, give to charity and don't commit crime. Not one of those things depends on god's existence.
The intolerance of those demanding homosexual marriage is no better than the intolerance of Hitler against the Jews.
Holy shit. As if I wasn't utterly disgusted by you already. Marriage equality is tantamount to the genocide Hitler committed against the Jews? I mean, you really type that shit out with a straight face? How the **** does marriage equality take away ANY of your rights? Who the **** is forcing you into gay marriage? How is "demanding" quality defined as "intolerance"? Cause they offend your shitty little sensibilities? So I guess now anyone who advocates equality for any group is defined as "intolerant", just because you're a bigot? We know your bigoted views on gays, minorities, blacks, Muslims, etc- so I guess anyone who is against discrimination is "intolerant"?
Seriously, I can't wrap my head around how twisted and vile your views are. I'm a Muslim, and I find your Hitler line abhorrent and offensive, not to mention your stance on gay marriage. and how you pretend to be a victim when anything gets in the way of your discrimination against others. You have the right to your ass-backwards views, but not to impose them on others or define the same rights given to others as are given to you as "intolerance". A gay couple getting married has ZERO effect on your personal life or your own rights, yet you constantly celebrate and advocate policies that would make the lives of others (ie. minorities) a living hell while mocking their struggles.
How dare you compare gay marriage with the slaughter committed by the Nazis.
I'm sure you could have made whatever point your trying to make in a more succinct way... I'm not reading all that.
Also, we don't live in a theocracy, so this is non sequitur. I don't give a frack about any of this. Doesn't mean I don't help my neighbor, give to charity and don't commit crime. Not one of those things depends on god's existence.
We are living in a Romans 1 society today. History is repeating itself. Atheism and naturalism are religions just as Christianity is a religion. An atheistic worldview is inconsistent, presupposes Christianity, and borrows things from Christianity. If we are the result of random chance, why does it matter that my posting of scripture offends? If you were consistent in your worldview, you wouldn't care about what information I'm disseminating, because when it's all said and done, it doesn't matter. In an atheistic worldview we live to die, and several hundred years down the road no one will know or care we existed. Also, being charitable and caring for others is borrowing from chistianity. Atheism has no basis for being kind to others. In a world dominated by the survival of the fittest we all should be striving to get ahead. So what purpose does being kind have in an evolutionary framework, other than feeling good about oneself, which doesn't matter because we are all going to die. The net effect is 0. Why play a zero sum game?
The best rebuke for "scoffers" is to quote scripture, even if they suppress it in unrighteousness. His word trumps anything I could every say or do, so I let it do the talking.
A true Christian is actually more tolerant than secularists because we recognize the sinful state we are all in. It is not up to us to judge other non Christians - they will do what they want to do. We can't stop that. That is what God will do in the end times.
Secularists are actually very intolerant of Christians - like the Christian fire chief in Georgia that was fired because he disagrees with homosexuality - and didn't show discrimination to hiring those who hold a different viewpoint.
I respect your right to hold your viewpoint, but don't force it on us through government. Because if homosexual marriage is passed what's next? Marriage to an animal? Marriage to a thing? If an evolutionary model is true, how are other creatures different than us, except more or less evolved? Or why is polygamy outlawed? Let's allow mutliple wives and husbands and he shes and she hes. What's to stop marriage to be defined in those ontexts? God is the one who defines marriage, not man. In fact the idea of marriage originally comes from the bible, so again, secularists are borrowing concepts from Christianity and contorting it to fit their desires. Why even have marriage in a secular worldview? Who gives a crap that two, three, or more entities get married? I fail to see the point of marriage in a secular worldview - it's just so inconsistent. Marriage only makes sense in the context of Christianity.
I'm sure you could have made whatever point your trying to make in a more succinct way... I'm not reading all that.
Also, we don't live in a theocracy, so this is non sequitur. I don't give a frack about any of this. Doesn't mean I don't help my neighbor, give to charity and don't commit crime. Not one of those things depends on god's existence.
We are living in a Romans 1 society today. History is repeating itself. Atheism and naturalism are religions just as Christianity is a religion. An atheistic worldview is inconsistent, presupposes Christianity, and borrows things from Christianity. If we are the result of random chance, why does it matter that my posting of scripture offends? If you were consistent in your worldview, you wouldn't care about what information I'm disseminating, because when it's all said and done, it doesn't matter. In an atheistic worldview we live to die, and several hundred years down the road no one will know or care we existed. Also, being charitable and caring for others is borrowing from chistianity. Atheism has no basis for being kind to others. In a world dominated by the survival of the fittest we all should be striving to get ahead. So what purpose does being kind have in an evolutionary framework, other than feeling good about oneself, which doesn't matter because we are all going to die. The net effect is 0. Why play a zero sum game?
The best rebuke for "scoffers" is to quote scripture, even if they suppress it in unrighteousness. His word trumps anything I could every say or do, so I let it do the talking.
A true Christian is actually more tolerant than secularists because we recognize the sinful state we are all in. It is not up to us to judge other non Christians - they will do what they want to do. We can't stop that. That is what God will do in the end times.
Secularists are actually very intolerant of Christians - like the Christian fire chief in Georgia that was fired because he disagrees with homosexuality - and didn't show discrimination to hiring those who hold a different viewpoint.
I respect your right to hold your viewpoint, but don't force it on us through government. Because if homosexual marriage is passed what's next? Marriage to an animal? Marriage to a thing? If an evolutionary model is true, how are other creatures different than us, except more or less evolved? Or why is polygamy outlawed? Let's allow mutliple wives and husbands and he shes and she hes. What's to stop marriage to be defined in those ontexts? God is the one who defines marriage, not man. In fact the idea of marriage originally comes from the bible, so again, secularists are borrowing concepts from Christianity and contorting it to fit their desires. Why even have marriage in a secular worldview? Who gives a crap that two, three, or more entities get married? I fail to see the point of marriage in a secular worldview - it's just so inconsistent. Marriage only makes sense in the context of Christianity.
Marriage only makes sense in the context of Christianity? So forget about all the other religions in the world. People married by them don't count as well as all those before the advent of the Jewish sect broke away to become Christianity. Only those married by the Christian church... If so which one? Roman Catholic, Greek or Russian orthodox or any of the other myriad of groups? Which one is the true Christian church?
I'm sure you could have made whatever point your trying to make in a more succinct way... I'm not reading all that.
Also, we don't live in a theocracy, so this is non sequitur. I don't give a frack about any of this. Doesn't mean I don't help my neighbor, give to charity and don't commit crime. Not one of those things depends on god's existence.
We are living in a Romans 1 society today. History is repeating itself. Atheism and naturalism are religions just as Christianity is a religion. An atheistic worldview is inconsistent, presupposes Christianity, and borrows things from Christianity. If we are the result of random chance, why does it matter that my posting of scripture offends? If you were consistent in your worldview, you wouldn't care about what information I'm disseminating, because when it's all said and done, it doesn't matter. In an atheistic worldview we live to die, and several hundred years down the road no one will know or care we existed. Also, being charitable and caring for others is borrowing from chistianity. Atheism has no basis for being kind to others. In a world dominated by the survival of the fittest we all should be striving to get ahead. So what purpose does being kind have in an evolutionary framework, other than feeling good about oneself, which doesn't matter because we are all going to die. The net effect is 0. Why play a zero sum game?
The best rebuke for "scoffers" is to quote scripture, even if they suppress it in unrighteousness. His word trumps anything I could every say or do, so I let it do the talking.
A true Christian is actually more tolerant than secularists because we recognize the sinful state we are all in. It is not up to us to judge other non Christians - they will do what they want to do. We can't stop that. That is what God will do in the end times.
Secularists are actually very intolerant of Christians - like the Christian fire chief in Georgia that was fired because he disagrees with homosexuality - and didn't show discrimination to hiring those who hold a different viewpoint.
I respect your right to hold your viewpoint, but don't force it on us through government. Because if homosexual marriage is passed what's next? Marriage to an animal? Marriage to a thing? If an evolutionary model is true, how are other creatures different than us, except more or less evolved? Or why is polygamy outlawed? Let's allow mutliple wives and husbands and he shes and she hes. What's to stop marriage to be defined in those ontexts? God is the one who defines marriage, not man. In fact the idea of marriage originally comes from the bible, so again, secularists are borrowing concepts from Christianity and contorting it to fit their desires. Why even have marriage in a secular worldview? Who gives a crap that two, three, or more entities get married? I fail to see the point of marriage in a secular worldview - it's just so inconsistent. Marriage only makes sense in the context of Christianity.
We are living in a Romans 1 society today. History is repeating itself. Atheism and naturalism are religions just as Christianity is a religion. An atheistic worldview is inconsistent, presupposes Christianity, and borrows things from Christianity. If we are the result of random chance, why does it matter that my posting of scripture offends? If you were consistent in your worldview, you wouldn't care about what information I'm disseminating, because when it's all said and done, it doesn't matter. In an atheistic worldview we live to die, and several hundred years down the road no one will know or care we existed. Also, being charitable and caring for others is borrowing from chistianity. Atheism has no basis for being kind to others. In a world dominated by the survival of the fittest we all should be striving to get ahead. So what purpose does being kind have in an evolutionary framework, other than feeling good about oneself, which doesn't matter because we are all going to die. The net effect is 0. Why play a zero sum game?
The best rebuke for "scoffers" is to quote scripture, even if they suppress it in unrighteousness. His word trumps anything I could every say or do, so I let it do the talking.
A true Christian is actually more tolerant than secularists because we recognize the sinful state we are all in. It is not up to us to judge other non Christians - they will do what they want to do. We can't stop that. That is what God will do in the end times.
Secularists are actually very intolerant of Christians - like the Christian fire chief in Georgia that was fired because he disagrees with homosexuality - and didn't show discrimination to hiring those who hold a different viewpoint.
I respect your right to hold your viewpoint, but don't force it on us through government. Because if homosexual marriage is passed what's next? Marriage to an animal? Marriage to a thing? If an evolutionary model is true, how are other creatures different than us, except more or less evolved? Or why is polygamy outlawed? Let's allow mutliple wives and husbands and he shes and she hes. What's to stop marriage to be defined in those ontexts? God is the one who defines marriage, not man. In fact the idea of marriage originally comes from the bible, so again, secularists are borrowing concepts from Christianity and contorting it to fit their desires. Why even have marriage in a secular worldview? Who gives a crap that two, three, or more entities get married? I fail to see the point of marriage in a secular worldview - it's just so inconsistent. Marriage only makes sense in the context of Christianity.
You seem to have confused atheism with nihilism.
Atheism is not an ethical philosophy, it's an existential belief, based on science. You should probably look into that.
Also, the slippery slope argument to bestial marriage is a complete dud, and you should know that. Marriage (and many other things) for liberal people depends on consent. An animal cannot consent to a marriage, so it will never happen.
Atheism is not an ethical philosophy, it's an existential belief, based on science. You should probably look into that.
Also, the slippery slope argument to bestial marriage is a complete dud, and you should know that. Marriage (and many other things) for liberal people depends on consent. An animal cannot consent to a marriage, so it will never happen.
We are living in a Romans 1 society today. History is repeating itself. Atheism and naturalism are religions just as Christianity is a religion. An atheistic worldview is inconsistent, presupposes Christianity, and borrows things from Christianity. If we are the result of random chance, why does it matter that my posting of scripture offends? If you were consistent in your worldview, you wouldn't care about what information I'm disseminating, because when it's all said and done, it doesn't matter. In an atheistic worldview we live to die, and several hundred years down the road no one will know or care we existed. Also, being charitable and caring for others is borrowing from chistianity. Atheism has no basis for being kind to others. In a world dominated by the survival of the fittest we all should be striving to get ahead. So what purpose does being kind have in an evolutionary framework, other than feeling good about oneself, which doesn't matter because we are all going to die. The net effect is 0. Why play a zero sum game?
Wow, you're a truly f**ked up person to think that you are only able to be kind to others because you are fearful of a fairy in the sky.
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God is the one who defines marriage, not man. In fact the idea of marriage originally comes from the bible, so again, secularists are borrowing concepts from Christianity and contorting it to fit their desires. Why even have marriage in a secular worldview? Who gives a crap that two, three, or more entities get married? I fail to see the point of marriage in a secular worldview - it's just so inconsistent. Marriage only makes sense in the context of Christianity.
LOL, how about you enlighten yourself (I know it's difficult for you as you choose to live your life by a fantasy book but please give it a try) and study the history of marriage. It predates christianty and the bible and had nothing to do with religion.
Shotgun weddings in their original form were mostly held because of the shame in children from unmarried parents, which is a hangover from a religious interpretation of marriage and the roles of women. I don't think it really applies all that much to the modern secular world.
Shotgun weddings in their original form were mostly held because of the shame in children from unmarried parents, which is a hangover from a religious interpretation of marriage and the roles of women. I don't think it really applies all that much to the modern secular world.
We are living in a Romans 1 society today. History is repeating itself. Atheism and naturalism are religions just as Christianity is a religion. An atheistic worldview is inconsistent, presupposes Christianity, and borrows things from Christianity. If we are the result of random chance, why does it matter that my posting of scripture offends? If you were consistent in your worldview, you wouldn't care about what information I'm disseminating, because when it's all said and done, it doesn't matter. In an atheistic worldview we live to die, and several hundred years down the road no one will know or care we existed. Also, being charitable and caring for others is borrowing from chistianity. Atheism has no basis for being kind to others. In a world dominated by the survival of the fittest we all should be striving to get ahead. So what purpose does being kind have in an evolutionary framework, other than feeling good about oneself, which doesn't matter because we are all going to die. The net effect is 0. Why play a zero sum game?
The best rebuke for "scoffers" is to quote scripture, even if they suppress it in unrighteousness. His word trumps anything I could every say or do, so I let it do the talking.
A true Christian is actually more tolerant than secularists because we recognize the sinful state we are all in. It is not up to us to judge other non Christians - they will do what they want to do. We can't stop that. That is what God will do in the end times.
Secularists are actually very intolerant of Christians - like the Christian fire chief in Georgia that was fired because he disagrees with homosexuality - and didn't show discrimination to hiring those who hold a different viewpoint.
I respect your right to hold your viewpoint, but don't force it on us through government. Because if homosexual marriage is passed what's next? Marriage to an animal? Marriage to a thing? If an evolutionary model is true, how are other creatures different than us, except more or less evolved? Or why is polygamy outlawed? Let's allow mutliple wives and husbands and he shes and she hes. What's to stop marriage to be defined in those ontexts? God is the one who defines marriage, not man. In fact the idea of marriage originally comes from the bible, so again, secularists are borrowing concepts from Christianity and contorting it to fit their desires. Why even have marriage in a secular worldview? Who gives a crap that two, three, or more entities get married? I fail to see the point of marriage in a secular worldview - it's just so inconsistent. Marriage only makes sense in the context of Christianity.
You seem to have confused atheism with nihilism.
Atheism is not an ethical philosophy, it's an existential belief, based on science. You should probably look into that.
Also, the slippery slope argument to bestial marriage is a complete dud, and you should know that. Marriage (and many other things) for liberal people depends on consent. An animal cannot consent to a marriage, so it will never happen.
Children can give consent, too; doesn't make it right.
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For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things. Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen. For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Though they know God’s righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them. (?Romans? ?1?:?18-32? ESV)
Romans 1:18 - 32
For the wrath of God ....
Dude, copy an paste is what they have done to your brain. If you actually looked at your bible, you would see paragraph returns an verse numbers. No one is going to filter through that incoherent stream of doctrine to glean any relevance out of that scripture/rant, not to mention that it is complete bull shit anyway, But that is another topic.
The intolerance of those demanding homosexual marriage is no better than the intolerance of Hitler against the Jews.
Of all the hideously offensive things you've said, this may be the worst. Congratulations.
If this doesn't earn you a ban nothing will, and this forum is beyond help.
I'm not saying it's okay to discriminate just because a person is homosexual. This issue is specifically about marriage. I know you don't believe in or have any respect for God (though you should!), but millions do.
And these millions understand He created us as the highest form of His creation (so we are extremely valued and valuable), and He made us man and woman and tells us (many times) that we were made for one another. He also called homosexuality a perversion and an abomination that are actions a person can take. But God is clear that we can repent of these things and be forgiven.
So, millions have this belief and respect for God and it is more important for us to obey His will rather than what society dictates when it's dictates are in direct opposition against God's character and creation (specifically in relation to homosexual marriage).
We will NOT support or promote homosexual marriage – and many are willing to stand firm on this even if you or the government take everything from us (our businesses, our homes, our lives).
If there are any Christ followers out there on this forum, people need to know this is wrong (homosexual marriage). The truth of God is offensive and foolish to those who are perishing but that doesn't mean we stay silent!
If you are foolish enough to believe in fairies in the sky and live your life by a book of fiction then fine by me but stop telling other people how they have to live their lives.
Romans 1:18 - 32
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things. Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen. For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Though they know God’s righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them. (?Romans? ?1?:?18-32? ESV)
I'm sure you could have made whatever point your trying to make in a more succinct way... I'm not reading all that.
Also, we don't live in a theocracy, so this is non sequitur. I don't give a frack about any of this. Doesn't mean I don't help my neighbor, give to charity and don't commit crime. Not one of those things depends on god's existence.
Very well said.
The intolerance of those demanding homosexual marriage is no better than the intolerance of Hitler against the Jews.
Holy shit. As if I wasn't utterly disgusted by you already. Marriage equality is tantamount to the genocide Hitler committed against the Jews? I mean, you really type that shit out with a straight face? How the **** does marriage equality take away ANY of your rights? Who the **** is forcing you into gay marriage? How is "demanding" quality defined as "intolerance"? Cause they offend your shitty little sensibilities? So I guess now anyone who advocates equality for any group is defined as "intolerant", just because you're a bigot? We know your bigoted views on gays, minorities, blacks, Muslims, etc- so I guess anyone who is against discrimination is "intolerant"?
Seriously, I can't wrap my head around how twisted and vile your views are. I'm a Muslim, and I find your Hitler line abhorrent and offensive, not to mention your stance on gay marriage. and how you pretend to be a victim when anything gets in the way of your discrimination against others. You have the right to your ass-backwards views, but not to impose them on others or define the same rights given to others as are given to you as "intolerance". A gay couple getting married has ZERO effect on your personal life or your own rights, yet you constantly celebrate and advocate policies that would make the lives of others (ie. minorities) a living hell while mocking their struggles.
How dare you compare gay marriage with the slaughter committed by the Nazis.
We are living in a Romans 1 society today. History is repeating itself. Atheism and naturalism are religions just as Christianity is a religion. An atheistic worldview is inconsistent, presupposes Christianity, and borrows things from Christianity. If we are the result of random chance, why does it matter that my posting of scripture offends? If you were consistent in your worldview, you wouldn't care about what information I'm disseminating, because when it's all said and done, it doesn't matter. In an atheistic worldview we live to die, and several hundred years down the road no one will know or care we existed. Also, being charitable and caring for others is borrowing from chistianity. Atheism has no basis for being kind to others. In a world dominated by the survival of the fittest we all should be striving to get ahead. So what purpose does being kind have in an evolutionary framework, other than feeling good about oneself, which doesn't matter because we are all going to die. The net effect is 0. Why play a zero sum game?
The best rebuke for "scoffers" is to quote scripture, even if they suppress it in unrighteousness. His word trumps anything I could every say or do, so I let it do the talking.
A true Christian is actually more tolerant than secularists because we recognize the sinful state we are all in. It is not up to us to judge other non Christians - they will do what they want to do. We can't stop that. That is what God will do in the end times.
Secularists are actually very intolerant of Christians - like the Christian fire chief in Georgia that was fired because he disagrees with homosexuality - and didn't show discrimination to hiring those who hold a different viewpoint.
I respect your right to hold your viewpoint, but don't force it on us through government. Because if homosexual marriage is passed what's next? Marriage to an animal? Marriage to a thing? If an evolutionary model is true, how are other creatures different than us, except more or less evolved? Or why is polygamy outlawed? Let's allow mutliple wives and husbands and he shes and she hes. What's to stop marriage to be defined in those ontexts? God is the one who defines marriage, not man. In fact the idea of marriage originally comes from the bible, so again, secularists are borrowing concepts from Christianity and contorting it to fit their desires. Why even have marriage in a secular worldview? Who gives a crap that two, three, or more entities get married? I fail to see the point of marriage in a secular worldview - it's just so inconsistent. Marriage only makes sense in the context of Christianity.
Marriage only makes sense in the context of Christianity? So forget about all the other religions in the world. People married by them don't count as well as all those before the advent of the Jewish sect broke away to become Christianity. Only those married by the Christian church... If so which one? Roman Catholic, Greek or Russian orthodox or any of the other myriad of groups? Which one is the true Christian church?
Excellent post.
I agree with it entirely.
We are living in a Romans 1 society today. History is repeating itself. Atheism and naturalism are religions just as Christianity is a religion. An atheistic worldview is inconsistent, presupposes Christianity, and borrows things from Christianity. If we are the result of random chance, why does it matter that my posting of scripture offends? If you were consistent in your worldview, you wouldn't care about what information I'm disseminating, because when it's all said and done, it doesn't matter. In an atheistic worldview we live to die, and several hundred years down the road no one will know or care we existed. Also, being charitable and caring for others is borrowing from chistianity. Atheism has no basis for being kind to others. In a world dominated by the survival of the fittest we all should be striving to get ahead. So what purpose does being kind have in an evolutionary framework, other than feeling good about oneself, which doesn't matter because we are all going to die. The net effect is 0. Why play a zero sum game?
The best rebuke for "scoffers" is to quote scripture, even if they suppress it in unrighteousness. His word trumps anything I could every say or do, so I let it do the talking.
A true Christian is actually more tolerant than secularists because we recognize the sinful state we are all in. It is not up to us to judge other non Christians - they will do what they want to do. We can't stop that. That is what God will do in the end times.
Secularists are actually very intolerant of Christians - like the Christian fire chief in Georgia that was fired because he disagrees with homosexuality - and didn't show discrimination to hiring those who hold a different viewpoint.
I respect your right to hold your viewpoint, but don't force it on us through government. Because if homosexual marriage is passed what's next? Marriage to an animal? Marriage to a thing? If an evolutionary model is true, how are other creatures different than us, except more or less evolved? Or why is polygamy outlawed? Let's allow mutliple wives and husbands and he shes and she hes. What's to stop marriage to be defined in those ontexts? God is the one who defines marriage, not man. In fact the idea of marriage originally comes from the bible, so again, secularists are borrowing concepts from Christianity and contorting it to fit their desires. Why even have marriage in a secular worldview? Who gives a crap that two, three, or more entities get married? I fail to see the point of marriage in a secular worldview - it's just so inconsistent. Marriage only makes sense in the context of Christianity.
You seem to have confused atheism with nihilism.
Atheism is not an ethical philosophy, it's an existential belief, based on science. You should probably look into that.
Also, the slippery slope argument to bestial marriage is a complete dud, and you should know that. Marriage (and many other things) for liberal people depends on consent. An animal cannot consent to a marriage, so it will never happen.
I guess you never heard of a 'shotgun wedding'?
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We are living in a Romans 1 society today. History is repeating itself. Atheism and naturalism are religions just as Christianity is a religion. An atheistic worldview is inconsistent, presupposes Christianity, and borrows things from Christianity. If we are the result of random chance, why does it matter that my posting of scripture offends? If you were consistent in your worldview, you wouldn't care about what information I'm disseminating, because when it's all said and done, it doesn't matter. In an atheistic worldview we live to die, and several hundred years down the road no one will know or care we existed. Also, being charitable and caring for others is borrowing from chistianity. Atheism has no basis for being kind to others. In a world dominated by the survival of the fittest we all should be striving to get ahead. So what purpose does being kind have in an evolutionary framework, other than feeling good about oneself, which doesn't matter because we are all going to die. The net effect is 0. Why play a zero sum game?
Wow, you're a truly f**ked up person to think that you are only able to be kind to others because you are fearful of a fairy in the sky.
LOL, how about you enlighten yourself (I know it's difficult for you as you choose to live your life by a fantasy book but please give it a try) and study the history of marriage. It predates christianty and the bible and had nothing to do with religion.
How about you enlighten yourself.
Take some time to watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikxb09pyZwM. This is a short version. The full video is here: https://vimeo.com/17960119 . And there's also a book called "The Case for Christ". There is compelling evidence if you study.
Consensual wasn't always consensual.
Take some time to watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikxb09pyZwM. This is a short version. The full video is here: https://vimeo.com/17960119 . And there's also a book called "The Case for Christ". There is compelling evidence if you study.
ROFL. This guy does not present a single piece of evidence for the existence of god. Nothing.
God is man-made. If you had been born in a different place like the middle east you will be worshipping another god and that is a fact.
Children can give consent, too; doesn't make it right.
You should have heard of something called the age of consent. Clue is in the wording.