CIA has waged 'secret campaign' to crack Apple's iOS security - report

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  • Reply 41 of 130
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    Originally Posted by JBDragon View Post

     

     

    We have a President right now that is acting like a Dictator!  Stepping all over the constitution.  If he doesn't get what he wants from Congress, well He has a Pen & a Phone and can just do whatever he wants anyway!!!   




    The President is part of the executive branch which has constitutional powers and responsibilities that are not subject to the approval of Congress. That's the "separate but equal" part of the Constitution.

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  • Reply 42 of 130
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by foregoneconclusion View Post

    The President is part of the executive branch which has constitutional powers and responsibilities that are not subject to the approval of Congress. That's the "separate but equal" part of the Constitution.

     

    Why not stop rattling off textbook answers and actually respond to what anyone is saying?

     

    Can we expect you to do that, or would that be a foregone conclusion?

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  • Reply 43 of 130
    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member
    Perhaps the US military and Government agencies should be using OS X and iOS exclusively then there might be less of this type of story: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/13/f-35-secrets-now-showing-chinas-stealth-fighter/?page=all

    From the story: "Pentagon technology security officials in 2011 opposed a joint venture between General Electric and AVIC over concerns that U.S. fighter jet technology would be diverted to AVIC’s military aircraft programs. The Obama administration ignored the concerns and instead has since promoted the systematic loosening of technology controls on transfers to China."
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  • Reply 44 of 130
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

     

    Why not stop rattling off textbook answers and actually respond to what anyone is saying?

     

    Can we expect you to do that, or would that be a foregone conclusion?




    LOL…already resorting to the tactic of claiming that I'm not making a valid argument? 

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  • Reply 45 of 130
    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member
    dasanman69 wrote: »
    Apple doesn't license OS X, and the military uses computers that are more powerful than anything Apple produces.

    That's a rather broad statement.
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  • Reply 46 of 130
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by foregoneconclusion View Post

    LOL…already resorting to the tactic of claiming that I'm not making a valid argument? 



    Make any argument whatsoever and then we’ll asses its validity. Again, you’re not even responding to what people are saying. You’re just rattling off what a textbook would say about the working of the government.

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  • Reply 47 of 130
    wovelwovel Posts: 956member
    Why not stop rattling off textbook answers and actually respond to what anyone is saying?

    Can we expect you to do that, or would that be a foregone conclusion?

    When the text book holds the right answer, why should he avoid presenting it? The belief by people who don't like the current President (at any particular time) is that the President is abusing their power. It is remarkable how people align the world to their beliefs and are only able to see the person they don't like doing things they don't agree with.
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  • Reply 48 of 130
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by Wovel View Post

    When the text book holds the right answer, why should he avoid presenting it?

     

    Because it isn’t an answer, as I literally just said.

     

    The belief by people who don't like the current President (at any particular time) is that the President is abusing their power.


     

    And he is, as shown by the law.

     

    It is remarkable how people align the world to their beliefs and are only able to see the person they don't like doing things they don't agree with.


     

    It’s remarkable that you think anyone involved in this has that opinion, given that no one has stated as such.

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  • Reply 49 of 130
    wovelwovel Posts: 956member
    That's a rather broad statement.

    It is weird and you have to wonder what computers this guy thinks the Military is using. Most of the military is using consumer or business grade laptops that average 2-3 years old just like every other major enterprise in the world. When you get into embedded systems and computers used in the field, the technology is actually older and less powerful. If he is talking about supercomputers used by the NSA and others, he missed the point.
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  • Reply 50 of 130
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     



    Make any argument whatsoever and then we’ll asses its validity. Again, you’re not even responding to what people are saying. You’re just rattling off what a textbook would say about the working of the government.


     

    That's a bit of a whopper coming from someone who posted a response earlier in the thread that simply said "The Fourth Amendment to the US Constitution is proof."

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  • Reply 51 of 130
    wovelwovel Posts: 956member
    Because it isn’t an answer, as I literally just said.

    And he is, as shown by the law.

    It’s remarkable that you think anyone involved in this has that opinion, given that no one has stated as such.

    Look at the line above the last one and try not to let your head explode as you claim you didn't do what you just did :).
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  • Reply 52 of 130
    rcfarcfa Posts: 1,124member
    herbivore wrote: »
    So, which developers are using the modified version of XCode. And how do we know if the malicious code with the backdoor has been installed in our devices? I might just have to purchase an iPhone and leave as is without installing any third party apps.

    If the NSA hacks OS X' software update mechanism, any number of developers may use the wrong/hacked XCode, maybe even inside Apple, and all potentially without knowing.

    Then, "the agency" is known to use companies as fronts for all sorts of activities, and they have plenty of funds: so they can fund/buy/bribe/coerce/blackmail any number of companies or individual developers of popular apps.

    So provides Apple's iOS team isn't compromised, do not install any third party app if you value security.

    Much better were if Apple would finally allow users root access on their own devices: that would make it possible to monitor the file system for unauthorized modifications, inspect running apps for unauthorized internet access, etc.

    In a jailed device, security is only as strong as the trustworthiness of the vendor and his own security, or the coercion abilities of the government where the company is located.
    Between the number of Apple developers, the Patriot Act gag-orders, potentially hacked 3rd party developers, etc. it's impossible to trust a closed off device one can't audit.

    So while a jailed device may make it less likely for Joe Sixpack to fall prey to some social engineering phishing attack by some low-level criminals, it exposes everyone, including sophisticated users, helplessly to sophisticated hacking by advanced cyber criminals and government agencies.

    It's time we get back the power over devices we paid for.
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  • Reply 53 of 130
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by foregoneconclusion View Post

    That's a bit of a whopper coming from someone who posted a response earlier in the thread that simply

    said "The Fourth Amendment to the US Constitution is proof."


     

    You see, the government has a set number of powers–things that they can legally do. These are written down explicitly in the Constitution. But the government has been increasing their number of powers without the consent of those they govern. They have also been ignoring the law and doing things they cannot legally do.

     

    That better?

     

    Originally Posted by Wovel View Post

    Look at the line above the last one and try not to let your head explode as you claim you didn't do what you just did image.



    Can you give me a direct link? Thread’s moving pretty quickly.

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  • Reply 54 of 130
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    That's a rather broad statement.

    "Check out the rack on her" is a broad statement. :lol:
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  • Reply 55 of 130
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post

    "Check out the rack on her" is a broad statement. image



    Do women refer to each others’ ‘racks’ in that way?

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  • Reply 56 of 130
    wovelwovel Posts: 956member
    rcfa wrote: »
    If the NSA hacks OS X' software update mechanism, any number of developers may use the wrong/hacked XCode, maybe even inside Apple, and all potentially without knowing.

    It may be possible to hack an update caching server at a major developer and deploy the infected Xcode that way. I am not sure that would work though because I believe the end client still checks the validity of the package directly with Apple.
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  • Reply 57 of 130
    wovelwovel Posts: 956member
    Do women refer to each others’ ‘racks’ in that way?

    Broads do. May not women or at least ladies...
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  • Reply 58 of 130
    maestro64maestro64 Posts: 5,043member
    Why is Sandia National Laboratories in quotes? That's not a secret organization. 

    Actually it is a very secret organization, more top secret research is done there than you can imagine. Some of the top research minds work there.
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  • Reply 59 of 130

    On another news .... Snowden revealed Larry Page & Vic Gundotra are already wide open to allow each and every agency worldwide have full access to their user's data! To return favor, they want spy agencies click on Ads and buy viagra online.

    :smokey:

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  • Reply 60 of 130
    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member
    Do women refer to each others’ ‘racks’ in that way?

    I hear women refer to other women as "chicks" all the time, strangely enough. Even I never call a woman a chick.
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