What amazes me is the total reversal of the depiction of Steve Jobs (by people who seem to have a curious and unnatural aversion to Apple) When he was running the company they described him as a flim-flam artist, a marketeer who led a group of blindly devoted zelots using his "reality distortion field" and that Apple was doomed once those people wake up and realize that.
Now that he is gone, the same group now claim he was a -one in a billion- inventor and visionary, and without him Apple is doomed!!! ;-)
Doesn't matter that the guy running the day to day operations at Apple has been doing so for 15 years (and has been CEO for 5 years) and that the guy who has been designing the products is still designing all the products (for the last 20, or so, years). Or that thy have become the largest company in the world
Nope, they are DOOOOOOOMED!
Also, didn't Steve Jobs introduce the first MacBook Air, with a whopping single USB port and an underpowered CPU that tended to overheat, but a slick, forward-looking design? The MacBook is a nod to the original MacBook Air, hopefully sans the CPU issues.
apple hasn't given us a new notebook. they've given us a new iPad in a folding case with a keyboard.
I can't believe they're calling this a macbook and not an "air light"
Go back to MacRumors and Macworld message boards from January 2008 and read the comments about the original MacBook Air. Substitute "SuperDrive" for "SD Port" and "Ethernet" for "HDMI port" and you have basically the same argument back then as now. Yet today most notebooks look like the MacBook Air.
Go back to MacRumors and Macworld message boards from January 2008 and read the comments about the original MacBook Air. Substitute "SuperDrive" for "SD Port" and "Ethernet" for "HDMI port" and you have basically the same argument back then as now. Yet today most notebooks look like the MacBook Air.
The Macbook is a complete new product category that is a perfect fit for 85% of regular computer users (facebook, internet, pages, numbers and keynote). It is actually a clamshell iPad - hence the colours and one port philosophy - with a keyboard and OSX.
Expect the Macbook to be the industry standard in two years time.
People complained about Macs losing the floppy drive, then they complained about Macs losing the CD/DVD, then the Ethernet port, and now all the ports that turn an otherwise nice and elegant product into a claptrap contraption. Take a look at someone using a Surface with wires sticking out all over the place if you want to see what claptrap looks like.
The new MacBook is a new product category. The old ones are still around for those of you who want or need to cling to the past. It's not like Apple eliminated the Air or the Pro. You could argue that this new MacBook replaces the old white plastic MacBook except with a future looking design rather than a cost reduced design.
You haven't lost anything with the addition of the new MacBook so quit complaining. If Apple giving you more choices is offensive to you maybe you should buy a Windows PC. Good luck with that.
Go back to MacRumors and Macworld message boards from January 2008 and read the comments about the original MacBook Air. Substitute "SuperDrive" for "SD Port" and "Ethernet" for "HDMI port" and you have basically the same argument back then as now. Yet today most notebooks look like the MacBook Air.
Exactly my point.
even then they didn't get rid of the USB ports. they predicted which ports/devices were going out of style, and said "we don't need these in MacBooks"
Now, stupidly, they're getting rid of all ports because, well, the iPhone is selling awesome and it's stylish to get rid of things
one move was being responsive to market predictions, the other is having your views spoiled by one of your markets.
What amazes me is the total reversal of the depiction of Steve Jobs (by people who seem to have a curious and unnatural aversion to Apple) When he was running the company they described him as a flim-flam artist, a marketeer who led a group of blindly devoted zelots using his "reality distortion field" and that Apple was doomed once those people wake up and realize that.
Now that he is gone, the same group now claim he was a -one in a billion- inventor and visionary, and without him Apple is doomed!!! ;-)
Doesn't matter that the guy running the day to day operations at Apple has been doing so for 15 years (and has been CEO for 5 years) and that the guy who has been designing the products is still designing all the products (for the last 20, or so, years). Or that thy have become the largest company in the world
Nope, they are DOOOOOOOMED!
you're crossign 2 market segments. There's always been a group thinking jobs was a flim-flam artist...
thats someone else.
There are people who never described him this way who have seen (and have some first hand inside knowledge) about the way the company has shifted since his departure.
And if you think he did nothing at the top except babysit everyone else who really made all the product decisions... you're sorely mistaken.
but sure... keep just mixing up 2 groups of people to make your soundbyte sound good.
you're crossign 2 market segments. There's always been a group thinking jobs was a flim-flam artist...
thats someone else.
There are people who never described him this way who have seen (and have some first hand inside knowledge) about the way the company has shifted since his departure.
And if you think he did nothing at the top except babysit everyone else who really made all the product decisions... you're sorely mistaken.
but sure... keep just mixing up 2 groups of people to make your soundbyte sound good.
No Josh they were, and are, a fairly universal memes among the haters
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What amazes me is the total reversal of the depiction of Steve Jobs (by people who seem to have a curious and unnatural aversion to Apple) When he was running the company they described him as a flim-flam artist, a marketeer who led a group of blindly devoted zelots using his "reality distortion field" and that Apple was doomed once those people wake up and realize that.
Now that he is gone, the same group now claim he was a -one in a billion- inventor and visionary, and without him Apple is doomed!!! ;-)
Doesn't matter that the guy running the day to day operations at Apple has been doing so for 15 years (and has been CEO for 5 years) and that the guy who has been designing the products is still designing all the products (for the last 20, or so, years). Or that thy have become the largest company in the world
Nope, they are DOOOOOOOMED!
Also, didn't Steve Jobs introduce the first MacBook Air, with a whopping single USB port and an underpowered CPU that tended to overheat, but a slick, forward-looking design? The MacBook is a nod to the original MacBook Air, hopefully sans the CPU issues.
is losing 1/2 pound worth losing
2 usb ports
an SD port
hdmi port
a seriously processor like the i5 or i7?
and more?
apple hasn't given us a new notebook. they've given us a new iPad in a folding case with a keyboard.
I can't believe they're calling this a macbook and not an "air light"
Go back to MacRumors and Macworld message boards from January 2008 and read the comments about the original MacBook Air. Substitute "SuperDrive" for "SD Port" and "Ethernet" for "HDMI port" and you have basically the same argument back then as now. Yet today most notebooks look like the MacBook Air.
Go back to MacRumors and Macworld message boards from January 2008 and read the comments about the original MacBook Air. Substitute "SuperDrive" for "SD Port" and "Ethernet" for "HDMI port" and you have basically the same argument back then as now. Yet today most notebooks look like the MacBook Air.
Anandtech wrote a compelling article about the new Macbook.
The Macbook is a complete new product category that is a perfect fit for 85% of regular computer users (facebook, internet, pages, numbers and keynote). It is actually a clamshell iPad - hence the colours and one port philosophy - with a keyboard and OSX.
Expect the Macbook to be the industry standard in two years time.
The new MacBook is a new product category. The old ones are still around for those of you who want or need to cling to the past. It's not like Apple eliminated the Air or the Pro. You could argue that this new MacBook replaces the old white plastic MacBook except with a future looking design rather than a cost reduced design.
You haven't lost anything with the addition of the new MacBook so quit complaining. If Apple giving you more choices is offensive to you maybe you should buy a Windows PC. Good luck with that.
Go back to MacRumors and Macworld message boards from January 2008 and read the comments about the original MacBook Air. Substitute "SuperDrive" for "SD Port" and "Ethernet" for "HDMI port" and you have basically the same argument back then as now. Yet today most notebooks look like the MacBook Air.
Exactly my point.
even then they didn't get rid of the USB ports. they predicted which ports/devices were going out of style, and said "we don't need these in MacBooks"
Now, stupidly, they're getting rid of all ports because, well, the iPhone is selling awesome and it's stylish to get rid of things
one move was being responsive to market predictions, the other is having your views spoiled by one of your markets.
What amazes me is the total reversal of the depiction of Steve Jobs (by people who seem to have a curious and unnatural aversion to Apple) When he was running the company they described him as a flim-flam artist, a marketeer who led a group of blindly devoted zelots using his "reality distortion field" and that Apple was doomed once those people wake up and realize that.
Now that he is gone, the same group now claim he was a -one in a billion- inventor and visionary, and without him Apple is doomed!!! ;-)
Doesn't matter that the guy running the day to day operations at Apple has been doing so for 15 years (and has been CEO for 5 years) and that the guy who has been designing the products is still designing all the products (for the last 20, or so, years). Or that thy have become the largest company in the world
Nope, they are DOOOOOOOMED!
you're crossign 2 market segments. There's always been a group thinking jobs was a flim-flam artist...
thats someone else.
There are people who never described him this way who have seen (and have some first hand inside knowledge) about the way the company has shifted since his departure.
And if you think he did nothing at the top except babysit everyone else who really made all the product decisions... you're sorely mistaken.
but sure... keep just mixing up 2 groups of people to make your soundbyte sound good.
you're crossign 2 market segments. There's always been a group thinking jobs was a flim-flam artist...
thats someone else.
There are people who never described him this way who have seen (and have some first hand inside knowledge) about the way the company has shifted since his departure.
And if you think he did nothing at the top except babysit everyone else who really made all the product decisions... you're sorely mistaken.
but sure... keep just mixing up 2 groups of people to make your soundbyte sound good.
No Josh they were, and are, a fairly universal memes among the haters
Wow... and the haters call apple fans myopic.
No Josh they were, and are, a fairly universal memes among the haters
Wow... and the haters call apple fans myopic.
Not my problem if you can't parse info when the demographic is literally speaking to you. (not even metaphorically).
I'm not a hater. Didn't think that jobs was all hype and distortion field, and thinks the company lost someone with vision (as shown by his history).
So there you go.
new information for your survey, and not just from a fringe group.
but please, feel free to continue messing up all the polling results for effect.