Remember this: when Apple design a chip, they can customize it to make it work.
I just can't wait to see a Apple box that streams Apple own live TV with full capability to run games, HomeKit and ties all services at home together. That means, not only game console, TV streaming boxes are in trouble but also home security hardware makers (ADT, FrontPoint, LifeShield, Brink, ...)
I have an Apple TV but its too limited. I use the Fire TV WAY more. Games, Music, Movies, Sling TV, side load web browser. I'm hoping that sling brings sling tv to Apple TV and that the new apple TV gets game controller support, and 4k output.
Right now, I have Sling TV in the living room on the fire tv, and use the apple tv in the bed room with the watch espn app.
PS: I really need sell that 2nd gen Apple TV I have. I wonder if I can still get $250 for it. I'm guessing I can't with so many other options now on the market.
Naturally, we don't know the specs of this box yet, so we're all guessing at this point.
It's not because no one will buy it at $149 or $199, but that EVERYONE will buy it at $99.
With a Chromecast going for $39, Roku's at $90 and SlingTV $20/mth offerings, Apple can wipe the competition at $99. And we know, their profit margin on it will still be very good.
1) I don't buy that "everyone" would buy it.
2) Even if that's the case, so what? Apple makes high margin, high quality, often disruptive hardware (and now services). I'd rather sell 10 items at $100 profit than 100 items at $1 profit. I mean, the Kindle has sold a hell of lot, but Amazon sells it at a loss. Selling at a loss is not Apple's way. Getting "everyone" to buy it doesn't seem to be the sort of thing that Apple is interested in.
2) Even if that's the case, so what? Apple makes high margin, high quality, often disruptive hardware (and now services). I'd rather sell 10 items at $100 profit than 100 items at $1 profit. I mean, the Kindle has sold a hell of lot, but Amazon sells it at a loss. Selling at a loss is not Apple's way. Getting "everyone" to buy it doesn't seem to be the sort of thing that Apple is interested in.
How many people already have iPhones, MacBooks, iMacs, Apple TV in the U.S. and worldwide?
Just iPhone alone - 700 million! So you can figure 25% will get the new Apple TV first year!
How many people already have iPhones, MacBooks, iMacs, Apple TV in the U.S. and worldwide?
Just iPhone alone - 700 million! So you can figure 25% will get the new Apple TV first year!
Exactly. You have a LOT of people within the Apple ecosystem already. They are going to sell a lot of them and they don't need to sell at low/no margin to do so.
How many people already have iPhones, MacBooks, iMacs, Apple TV in the U.S. and worldwide?
Just iPhone alone - 700 million! So you can figure 25% will get the new Apple TV first year!
Count me in as one of the first ones to get the new ?tv if it comes out. The one i got (not the 1080) is greatand i spect the new ?tv to be even better, specially with all the new tech apple has acquired
The perfect Apple TV for me: 1. A complete iTunes server so I don't have to run a power sucking Mac in favour of an energy efficient iOS device to play stored content (this requires an ability to add storage as well). The iTunes server would play a wide range of codecs and airplay connect to all mac and iOS devices. 2. Play 4K from the iTunes server. I suppose you could theoretically stream 4K, but that would be really limiting your market and chew bandwidth. 2. A home automation server. That's what homekit is for, right? 3. Alright, an app store that comes with a kit for developers to adapt iOS games for the big screen. Cheap casual gaming would likely make life hard for consoles. 4. A new controller to go with the app store. 5. I prefer à la carte to subscription. So call me a dinosaur, but I lead a busy live and would prefer to only pay for what I actually get to watch.
I think around 200 as well, though the Fire TV is only 100 and has twice the RAM and CPU to the current model, any word on better gaming, perhaps a dedicated game-pad like with the soon to be released Nvidia Shield set-box. My son will probably go for the latter, meaning the Nvidia regardless of what Apple releases. However I'm actually excited for the Apple TV, will be a great addition to my Minix Z64 and ChromeBox.
Now that the motherboard on the new macbook is so small. What's stopping them from using that type of processor/chipset in the Apple TV? I'm assuming this is going to be the Homekit hub/ tv streaming/ game console of the future.
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It's even easier to do so from a phone.
the new Apple TV will also reportedly support… …the company’s latest A8 processor…
The A8 processor that already powers the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus is powerful enough to output 4K-resolution video,
But we calculated it. It’s not able to do that.
I think there's a big chance it'll be named the ? Hub if they don't go with Apple TV 4.
they wont go w/ either. there is not Apple TV 3. there is only Apple TV. which generation you have isnt part of the product name.
But we calculated it. It’s not able to do that.
Remember this: when Apple design a chip, they can customize it to make it work.
I just can't wait to see a Apple box that streams Apple own live TV with full capability to run games, HomeKit and ties all services at home together. That means, not only game console, TV streaming boxes are in trouble but also home security hardware makers (ADT, FrontPoint, LifeShield, Brink, ...)
I have try, but i wont let me
I have an Apple TV but its too limited. I use the Fire TV WAY more. Games, Music, Movies, Sling TV, side load web browser. I'm hoping that sling brings sling tv to Apple TV and that the new apple TV gets game controller support, and 4k output.
Right now, I have Sling TV in the living room on the fire tv, and use the apple tv in the bed room with the watch espn app.
I find the mobile version easier to use than the app.
I think AppleCenter would be a nice name for this new device.
"iVision", anyone?
But I disagree about price.
Apple has often released advancements without noticeable price changes,
so unless they feel they are releasing an entirely new animal, it may not be
that much, if any, different. It isn't unreasonable to think that the subscription price
would be a place to "hide" the price change, especially since that's a "gift that keeps on giving".
PS: I really need sell that 2nd gen Apple TV I have. I wonder if I can still get $250 for it. I'm guessing I can't with so many other options now on the market.
Thank you!
Naturally, we don't know the specs of this box yet, so we're all guessing at this point.
It's not because no one will buy it at $149 or $199, but that EVERYONE will buy it at $99.
With a Chromecast going for $39, Roku's at $90 and SlingTV $20/mth offerings, Apple can wipe the competition at $99. And we know, their profit margin on it will still be very good.
1) I don't buy that "everyone" would buy it.
2) Even if that's the case, so what? Apple makes high margin, high quality, often disruptive hardware (and now services). I'd rather sell 10 items at $100 profit than 100 items at $1 profit. I mean, the Kindle has sold a hell of lot, but Amazon sells it at a loss. Selling at a loss is not Apple's way. Getting "everyone" to buy it doesn't seem to be the sort of thing that Apple is interested in.
1) I don't buy that "everyone" would buy it.
2) Even if that's the case, so what? Apple makes high margin, high quality, often disruptive hardware (and now services). I'd rather sell 10 items at $100 profit than 100 items at $1 profit. I mean, the Kindle has sold a hell of lot, but Amazon sells it at a loss. Selling at a loss is not Apple's way. Getting "everyone" to buy it doesn't seem to be the sort of thing that Apple is interested in.
How many people already have iPhones, MacBooks, iMacs, Apple TV in the U.S. and worldwide?
Just iPhone alone - 700 million! So you can figure 25% will get the new Apple TV first year!
How many people already have iPhones, MacBooks, iMacs, Apple TV in the U.S. and worldwide?
Just iPhone alone - 700 million! So you can figure 25% will get the new Apple TV first year!
Exactly. You have a LOT of people within the Apple ecosystem already. They are going to sell a lot of them and they don't need to sell at low/no margin to do so.
Count me in as one of the first ones to get the new ?tv if it comes out. The one i got (not the 1080) is greatand i spect the new ?tv to be even better, specially with all the new tech apple has acquired
1. A complete iTunes server so I don't have to run a power sucking Mac in favour of an energy efficient iOS device to play stored content (this requires an ability to add storage as well). The iTunes server would play a wide range of codecs and airplay connect to all mac and iOS devices.
2. Play 4K from the iTunes server. I suppose you could theoretically stream 4K, but that would be really limiting your market and chew bandwidth.
2. A home automation server. That's what homekit is for, right?
3. Alright, an app store that comes with a kit for developers to adapt iOS games for the big screen. Cheap casual gaming would likely make life hard for consoles.
4. A new controller to go with the app store.
5. I prefer à la carte to subscription. So call me a dinosaur, but I lead a busy live and would prefer to only pay for what I actually get to watch.
Here is how AppleTV with Siri will work:
"Play Music". Siri: "Did you say, Watch Netflix"? No! Worthless feature.
I'd be shocked if its that cheap.
I think minimum $199 and maximum $349
I think around 200 as well, though the Fire TV is only 100 and has twice the RAM and CPU to the current model, any word on better gaming, perhaps a dedicated game-pad like with the soon to be released Nvidia Shield set-box. My son will probably go for the latter, meaning the Nvidia regardless of what Apple releases. However I'm actually excited for the Apple TV, will be a great addition to my Minix Z64 and ChromeBox.