Apple's upcoming streaming music service reportedly under FTC investigation

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  • Reply 21 of 26
    zoetmbzoetmb Posts: 2,419member
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    Originally Posted by TheWhiteFalcon View Post

     

    Just means Apple hasn't greased the right palms. That's what gets things done in the government anymore.


    That's absurd.   Even for elected office, there are no direct bribes.   There's campaign donations and "winks" that indicate the offer of jobs once the person leaves government service.   I've never a single report indicating that anyone at the FTC has every been directly bribed.   The FTC might sometime get things wrong, but that doesn't make them corrupt. 

     

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    Originally Posted by Mark Fearing View Post



    Since when does a music service being squeezed out from being free get Govt. attention but the national internet service remains expensive and some of the slowest in the western world?



    Yeah, let's worry about deals with Tyler Swift while internet access continues to fall way behind other countries and speeds are basically being held hostage.

    One thing has nothing to do with the other.   The FTC has nothing to do with internet speed and infrastructure.   And no one is forcing Apple not to have a free streaming service.    The reason why our speeds suck is because the government will not directly spend on internet infrastructure.  In the capitalist U.S., that's considered the domain of private companies.   In other countries, it's considered important enough that the government will invest.  There's no Republican who would ever let the Government spend a penny on improving access and speed of service, although there are a few small localities who are doing this on their own.   

     

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    Originally Posted by justbobf View Post



    Sounds like Apple is starting to strong arm the way Microsoft did, and that ain't pretty.

    Agreed.   I think Apple should stop trying to force labels or artists into exclusives, which isn't going to happen anyway (and in my opinion, is a demonstration of Apple's arrogance), and instead create a service that is so good, people will want to use it even if it is more expensive than other services.   Isn't that how they competed against illegal free download services with the iTunes eco-system?  They made it better and more convenient.   Apple can probably do deals where they get exclusive tracks or bonus content, just as BestBuy and Walmart sometimes get exclusive versions of movies on Blu-ray or DVD, but they're not going to be able to cut exclusive deals with artists unless they're willing to essentially become a record label and take on all that entails, which today sometimes includes merchandise, touring and music publishing.  

  • Reply 22 of 26
    smileydudesmileydude Posts: 108member

    When reading stories like this, I ask myself, "Who are the people who actually know what's going on and who are the people that would benefit from leaking to the press/government/whoever?"  In this case, the people that actually would know (i.e, the labels and Apple) would get no benefit from leaking this.  And the people who would benefit (i.e, Spotify and other similar services) have no inside info.

     

    To me that says this is pretty much a witch hunt -- someone at one at the streaming services got spooked about Apple entering the market with Beats, maybe they heard something, maybe the labels started talking about changing the contract, whatever. They put a couple of things together and maybe raised a few questions at the FTC and DOJ, and now the government is taking a look for themselves.

     

    The way it looks is that the labels want to increase their revenue and the streaming services just aren't doing it for them.  The streaming services can't afford to pay more because advertising revenue isn't that great.  In comes Apple with a unified system where they can have multiple tiers -- free ad supported streaming, paid monthly subscription, and actual purchases of the music, all within the same system.  This isn't Apple dictating terms for the entire industry, it's the labels saying this looks an awful lot like what we want.

     

    I doubt that Apple has dictated any terms in their contracts that would prevent the labels from continuing to work with competing streaming services.  But I would not be surprised if Apple made their terms attractive enough to the labels that the terms the other services use would look horrible by comparison.  If you have one customer willing to pay a lot more, the ones that don't will probably get ignored or shown the door.

  • Reply 23 of 26
    News of an FTC inquiry follows claims that the DOJ is conducting a similar investigation into Apple's streaming music business practices.
    Meanwhile the FTC and DOJ have requested that Amazon suggest ways that the agencies can better assist the Internet retailer in bolstering its dominance of internet commerce. Representatives for Amazon declined to comment but did a stereotypical evil villain laugh according to sources close to the matter.
  • Reply 24 of 26
    jdeasquejdeasque Posts: 2member
    Seems strange this administration is so quick to investigate American businesses for using aggressive tactics but so hesitant to call ISIS a radical Muslim terror organization after they drown, behead and enslave hundreds and thousands of christian and muslim men, women and children. I guess "aggression" is in the eye of the beholder.
  • Reply 25 of 26
    jdeasquejdeasque Posts: 2member
    Seems strange this administration is so quick to investigate American businesses for using aggressive tactics but so hesitant to call ISIS a radical Muslim terror organization after they drown, behead and enslave hundreds and thousands of christian and muslim men, women and children. I guess "aggression" is in the eye of the beholder.
  • Reply 26 of 26
    t0mat0t0mat0 Posts: 58member
    Does the FTC normally investigate things that haven't really been announced or released?
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