Rumor: 'iPhone 6s' to be stronger with Series 7000 aluminum, slightly thicker for Force Touch

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  • Reply 41 of 82
    19831983 Posts: 1,225member

    Apple Watch 7000 series aluminium for the next iPhone...makes perfect sense. The yellow gold colour being more 'yellow gold' in hue is also a good idea...the current shade looks odd in certain kinds of light, especially under fluorescents. But I'm not so keen on the space gray becoming darker, the current hue looks great on an the iPhone and iPad range, much classier than the other available shades IMHO. Also I wonder if that slight increase in thickness on the next iPhones will be enough to prevent that metal ring around the camera lens from poking out the back?

  • Reply 42 of 82
    boltsfan17boltsfan17 Posts: 2,294member

    7000 series aluminum? I'll pass. I'm waiting for the valyrian steel iPhone. 

  • Reply 43 of 82
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,927member
    f1turbo wrote: »
    I don't care about the increase in thickness, but was hoping for less bezel--the increased width and height might be a problem for me.  The 6 is already too big for several of my shirt pockets.  

    You have small pockets. Perhaps you meant small as in height. Not a big deal for me if that's the case.
  • Reply 44 of 82
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,927member
    boltsfan17 wrote: »
    7000 series aluminum? I'll pass. I'm waiting for the valyrian steel iPhone. 

    Unobtainium is the future of the iPhone.
  • Reply 45 of 82
    nolamacguynolamacguy Posts: 4,758member
    eightzero wrote: »
    Anyone wanna put book down on the length of the iPhone 6s video extolling the metallurgy? Those things at the Watch event were just a train wreck. Interesting, sure. Stuff of a launch event? No. Unless you really get wood from hearing Jony pronounce the word "aluminium."

    nuts. those videos were incredible and produced some very thought provoking analysis:


    http://atomicdelights.com/blog/a-glimpse-at-how-the-apple-watch-is-made
  • Reply 46 of 82
    nolamacguynolamacguy Posts: 4,758member
    dklebedev wrote: »
    The camera shouldn't be sticking out anyway!

    did you complain about it on the iPod touch? on the other smartphones do it, far worse than Apple?

    it's not a big deal. most of us don't use a naked phone, but even if you do, it has almost no effect on usability, even on a flat table which I personally rarely do. only a very top left tap generates a minute amount of movement, but since you can edge swipe to go back there's no reason to do that.

    non-issue.
  • Reply 47 of 82
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
    jungmark wrote: »
    Apple doesn't need anything. The majority of users don't need to add RAM or replace their hard drives.
    Me personally, I run into secondary store issues before I need more RAM.
    Budget folks and schools can get the mini. Although I agree the memory should be replaceable. So max it out or double the default when you order it.

    I personally feel that people wishing for replaceable RAM will be quickly a minority as RAM gets packaged with the CPU SoC in one package. AMD just introduced their HBM and a couple of GPUs using it, they where not shy at all about describing the future where such RAM is used in their APU type chips and other products. In the end the industry has little choice as RAM needs to be physically close to run at the much higher speeds possible.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see professors with 8-16 GB of RAM built into the package even in low end machines in 5 years. An APU type chip needs the faster access to RAM and with advancements in GPU processing all parts of the chip will benefit from that faster RAM.
  • Reply 48 of 82
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
    spheric wrote: »
    You're seriously asking for Apple to go back to hard-drive-based laptops? Because with SSD storage, sticking to old and slow S-ATA standards that make replacements simple but require bulky cases and plugs while running much slower makes no sense.
    A lot of people do live in the past. However at the moment SSD's sit on PCI Express busses and as such could be replaceable.
    And I'd like to see the total klutz swap ultra-low-voltage RAM that is so power sensitive that it cannot be socketed.
    Faster RAM solutions will be socket resistant also simply due to the need to keep the signals short and clean. What are people going to do when RAM is built into the processor package? Like you I really don't think people get it! We are on the verg on a new generation of hardware that will dramatically change how PC's are built.
    The 13" MacBook Pro is still available.

    I've been very pleased with my new 13" MBP. Running El Capitan on it right now. Even with the bugs and debugging code El Capitan feels very snappy on the machine. I'm most impressed and believe Apple has finally got tent it with respect to GPU performance and general system issues that have made their machines sluggish.
  • Reply 49 of 82
    jaffajaffa Posts: 15member
    Using a higher strength grade of aluminium and abandoning their 'thinness' obsession will certainly help the product be less delicate.

    As for 'creating a new alloy' that's more marketing nonsense than technological leap, all aluminium alloys contain up to a dozen other elements in trace amounts to impart specific properties. There are many grades used commercially with 7XXX alloys (which include more zinc than other grades) being heavily used in the Aerospace industry and selected because of their hardness. It's laughable to claim Apple have created a new alloy and improved the strength of these already available materials when the likes of Boeing, Rolls-Royce, Airbus, Lockheed, NASA etc just get by with good old 7068.

    The Jobs reality distortion field is alive and well.
  • Reply 50 of 82
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
    dklebedev wrote: »
    The camera shouldn't be sticking out anyway!

    On the contrary anything that leads to higher performance out of the camera system is to be welcomed. The ring actually serves several purposes one of which to provide a way to locate accessories. Even if they could collapse the optical path to eliminate the need for the ring you would still want the locating feature and the protection the ring offers. Beyond that I want more out of iPhones camera, one of those mores being a real optical Zoom.
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    ralphmouthralphmouth Posts: 192member
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    Originally Posted by NolaMacGuy View Post





    what nonsense. worse, you completely fail to understand that other people have different needs than your own. classic technocrati flaw -- inability to emphasize with others. I've owned your old MB, and i own the thinner new MacBooks. guess what? i like the thinner ones better. the day-to-day value of a thin, light piece of gear in my bag far outweighs the one-and-done value of upgrading notebook RAM. and hard drives? please, I've never bothered to upgrade any of my apple device drives. i have better things to do w/ my time, and so do my clients & employers.

     

    Agreed but I think you meant emphatize not emphasize.

  • Reply 53 of 82
    zabazaba Posts: 226member
    rogifan wrote: »
    Apple and Samsung sell more phones than everyone else combined and they both have flagship devices where the camera sticks out slightly in the back. I don think anyone cares about this.
    I care, it stopped me from upgrading. Waiting for the s version and hopefully this will be "fixed".
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  • Reply 55 of 82
    eightzeroeightzero Posts: 3,147member
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    A 2 minute (or less) video talking about materials was a train wreck? Seriously?

    Seriously. A 2 minute (or less) video about materials *at a media event* was a train wreck. Even Tim seemed a little bit "oh, here's another one about how we make these." It seemed to me he almost rolled his eyes. As I said, interesting. But it's not for that audience and at that time. These events are already way too long. Leave the audience wanting more, and supply it online. The reveal AW thingy was very well staged, and well presented. And at the time, Jony telling the story was good too. But at the March event, people wanted to know when they could get one and how much why'd have to pay. We know it's aluminum, steel and gold. And we know you've been meticulous about it like Steve taught us about the insides of stuff. Just. Cut. To. The. Chase.

     

    No one goes to the hockey game to hear the national anthem.

  • Reply 56 of 82
    eightzeroeightzero Posts: 3,147member
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    Originally Posted by NolaMacGuy View Post





    nuts. those videos were incredible and produced some very thought provoking analysis:





    http://atomicdelights.com/blog/a-glimpse-at-how-the-apple-watch-is-made



    I agree. Interesting and informative. Just not at a media event on stage. Oh, I suppose they were necessary to justify the premium prices to some people.

  • Reply 57 of 82
    eightzeroeightzero Posts: 3,147member
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    Originally Posted by dklebedev View Post





    The camera shouldn't be sticking out anyway!



    What I object to more is lack of a lens cap. Some shutter type device to keep the glass clean  and scratch free is needed. Open when the camera is being used; closed all other times.

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    bluefire1bluefire1 Posts: 1,311member
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  • Reply 60 of 82
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    eightzero wrote: »
    Seriously. A 2 minute (or less) video about materials *at a media event* was a train wreck. Even Tim seemed a little bit "oh, here's another one about how we make these." It seemed to me he almost rolled his eyes. As I said, interesting. But it's not for that audience and at that time. These events are already way too long. Leave the audience wanting more, and supply it online. The reveal AW thingy was very well staged, and well presented. And at the time, Jony telling the story was good too. But at the March event, people wanted to know when they could get one and how much why'd have to pay. We know it's aluminum, steel and gold. And we know you've been meticulous about it like Steve taught us about the insides of stuff. Just. Cut. To. The. Chase.

    No one goes to the hockey game to hear the national anthem.

    Disagree. Those videos always go over well (just check out twitter during an event). If you want to cut to the chase, we didn't need another Kevin Lynch demo as he didn't really show off anything new and we probably didn't need Christy Turlington either. And Cook wasn't rolling his eyes at those videos. He made a joke about the second one that everyone in the audience (probably including Jony) laughed at.
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