Apple denies rumor that it is looking to launch its own cellular service

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  • Reply 21 of 76
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 10,557member
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    Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post



    I'd rather be sending my money to Apple Wireless than AT&T. Oh, well.



    You’d still be sending your money to at&t, just indirectly.

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  • Reply 22 of 76
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    Originally Posted by konqerror View Post

     
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    Getting into the MVNO business would have been ill-advised. It's a low margin, zero-growth, dog of a business best left to useless companies like Virgin and no-name start-ups.


     

    Virgin Mobile USA and Boost Mobile are both owned by Sprint. They aren't MVNOs, they're a Sprint brand. In fact, those two are where most of Sprint's growth comes from.


    I don't normally cite Wikipedia, except when it is too obvious: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Mobile

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  • Reply 23 of 76
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    You're also forgetting: BusinessInsider. It's clickbait.

    Edit: or in this case, SEO link bait.

    Sure but plenty of other sites jumped on it. So now they all have egg on their faces.
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  • Reply 24 of 76
    Google entered phone manufacturing, high-speed Internet service and a wireless service... I don't see a huge backlash by competitors yet.

    Everyone else needs competition, but not Google. You never Google fans complain about the lack of competition in search engines or maps.
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  • Reply 25 of 76
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    lkrupp wrote: »
    All they really have to do is respond to the bullshit rather than ignore it. When some analyst comes out with a report ‘confirming’ the existence of, say, a new Apple TV, Apple should just release a statement like the one it just did about MVNO. Tell the world that that analyst has been sniffing model airplane glue and is unqualified to make such a claim. 

    Only problem is once they start doing that then anytime they don't comment people will assume that rumor is true. In this case though I get it. Apple doesn't want to upset the carrier relationships they have.
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  • Reply 26 of 76
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    Everyone else needs competition, but not Google. You never Google fans complain about the lack of competition in search engines or maps.

    Everyone should be fearful of what's happening to Twitter. The company is a mess right now and ripe for acquisition. The CW is Google will snap them up. God help us all if they do.
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  • Reply 27 of 76
    rogifan wrote: »
    Sure but plenty of other sites jumped on it. So now they all have egg on their faces.

    A lie repeated is a lie amplified. In time, the source is forgotten and the echoed lie becomes "consensus on the web."
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  • Reply 28 of 76
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    The point was that the fact that Google has entered those markets may have fed the rumor, regardless of whether or not it would be good for Apple.

    You may be right about that.

     

    Although, I honestly cannot think of a single instance in which Apple has entered even a single domain in which it appears to have said, "Google is in, or is thinking of getting into, that business, so I must."

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  • Reply 29 of 76
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,769member
    You may be right about that.

    Although, I honestly cannot think of a single instance in which Apple has entered even a single domain in which it appears to have said, "Google is in, or is thinking of getting into, that business, so I must."
    Targeted ads. . .
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  • Reply 30 of 76
    cornchipcornchip Posts: 1,954member
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    Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

     

    Getting into the MVNO business would have been ill-advised. It's a low margin, zero-growth, dog of a business best left to useless companies like Virgin and no-name start-ups.

     


     

    Don't forget Walmart!

     

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    Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post



    Apple likes to own the whole enchilada!

     

     

    No shit. If Apple were to get into the "carrier" end of their system, I'd imagine they'd do it a more innovative way; as in, say, pursue the original vision of having their devices operate on a nationwide wifi network. Or something. Whatever, I know I'll get harangued about that because infrastructure, square miles, Billions uv dollerz and all that, I get it. Whatever the case, I highly doubt they're going to jump into the MVNO cesspool. 

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  • Reply 31 of 76
    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member
    You may be right about that.

    Although, I honestly cannot think of a single instance in which Apple has entered even a single domain in which it appears to have said, "Google is in, or is thinking of getting into, that business, so I must."

    Speculators may make assumptions as Apple and Google compete in the area Apple makes the majority of its profits (iPhone). Extrapolate to the areas in which Apple has not entered (cars, wireless, fiber, robotics, etc.)...
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  • Reply 32 of 76
    rogifan wrote: »
    Everyone should be fearful of what's happening to Twitter. The company is a mess right now and ripe for acquisition. The CW is Google will snap them up. God help us all if they do.

    "Please sign in with Google+"
    "Your location will be shared automatically with your followers."
    "TOS have changed. Please take a moment to review all the things we automatically opted you in to."
    "New API changes means older Twitter clients will no longer have access to Twitter servers."
    "You can skip this ad in 10, 9, 8, 7..."
    "Please sign in with your real name."

    Not looking forward to that.
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  • Reply 33 of 76
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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post



    You may be right about that.



    Although, I honestly cannot think of a single instance in which Apple has entered even a single domain in which it appears to have said, "Google is in, or is thinking of getting into, that business, so I must."


    Targeted ads. . .

    Yeah, like it's even a remotely serious or material business for Apple.

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  • Reply 34 of 76
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,769member
    Yeah, like it's even a remotely serious or material business for Apple.
    :/
    That's not what you said. That would be a typical reaction tho from some folks who hear an answer that, while the truth, isn't what they want to hear. Not pinning that on you of course.
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  • Reply 35 of 76
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,769member
    Speculators may make assumptions as Apple and Google compete in the area Apple makes the majority of its profits (iPhone). Extrapolate to the areas in which Apple has not entered (cars, wireless, fiber, robotics, etc.)...
    BTW, did you notice the other day that Google set up a subsidiary, Google Auto LLC? Could be for liability reasons or for some bigger project, perhaps building/partnering on an actual car of some sort. AFAIK they haven't discussed it.
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  • Reply 36 of 76
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    :/

    That's not what you said. 

    Please stop being such a pedant.

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  • Reply 37 of 76
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
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    Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

     

    You may be right about that.

     

    Although, I honestly cannot think of a single instance in which Apple has entered even a single domain in which it appears to have said, "Google is in, or is thinking of getting into, that business, so I must."




    Maps?

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  • Reply 38 of 76
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,769member
    Please stop being such a pedant.
    Please stop being so touchy. I've learned stuff from you. You've learned stuff from me. In the past few that's now become a problem for you?
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  • Reply 39 of 76
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    Originally Posted by Crowley View Post

     
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

     

    You may be right about that.

     

    Although, I honestly cannot think of a single instance in which Apple has entered even a single domain in which it appears to have said, "Google is in, or is thinking of getting into, that business, so I must."




    Maps?


    Good one!

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  • Reply 40 of 76
    bigpicsbigpics Posts: 1,397member
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    Originally Posted by lkrupp View Post

     

    All they really have to do is respond to the bullshit rather than ignore it. When some analyst comes out with a report ‘confirming’ the existence of, say, a new Apple TV, Apple should just release a statement like the one it just did about MVNO. Tell the world that that analyst has been sniffing model airplane glue and is unqualified to make such a claim. 


     

    Except....

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    Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post



    Only problem is once they start doing that then anytime they don't comment people will assume that rumor is true. In this case though I get it. Apple doesn't want to upset the carrier relationships they have.

     

    Saved me the typing.  :-)

     

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    "Please sign in with Google+"

     

    This universal sign-in requirement - to use some Google-owned services at least - and to the delight of YouTube trolls among other more rational sorts - is going away as G+ is further decoupled from the Googlesphere to focus on more limited purposes. 

     

    (Announced within the last few days.)

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