Now that the app store has mostly caught up with the software functionality of Cydia, most jailbreakers do so not to thwart the "walled garden" but to thwart their carrier. Especially in China, there's a huge gray market for refurbished/second hand iPhones but those phones aren't capable of joining cell networks in such places without jailbreaking. Or people don't want to pay extra for things like tethering. Sure, it's very risky, but I'm not going to say the jailbreak community shouldn't exist. Exploits of a hacked platform aren't very newsworthy, but what is inferred is interesting. If iPhones were cheaper, I think the jailbreak community would substantially shrink. There would be far less incentive to jailbreak if you could go legit with an iPhone 5c off contract for, say, $50. Offer a way for pirates to go legit, solve two problems at once.
I think AppleInsider is remiss in calling this an iOS exploit, like, I'm sure, the other less informed media outlets will do as well.
iOS does not, nor will allow this exploit. It is the "no-longer-iOS" devices that allow this and AI shouldn't be adding to the FUD by sloppily reporting this as iOS.
Now that the app store has mostly caught up with the software functionality of Cydia, most jailbreakers do so not to thwart the "walled garden" but to thwart their carrier. Especially in China, there's a huge gray market for refurbished/second hand iPhones but those phones aren't capable of joining cell networks in such places without jailbreaking. Or people don't want to pay extra for things like tethering. Sure, it's very risky, but I'm not going to say the jailbreak community shouldn't exist. Exploits of a hacked platform aren't very newsworthy, but what is inferred is interesting. If iPhones were cheaper, I think the jailbreak community would substantially shrink. There would be far less incentive to jailbreak if you could go legit with an iPhone 5c off contract for, say, $50. Offer a way for pirates to go legit, solve two problems at once.
I think AppleInsider is remiss in calling this an iOS exploit, like, I'm sure, the other less informed media outlets will do as well.
iOS does not, nor will allow this exploit. It is the "no-longer-iOS" devices that allow this and AI shouldn't be adding to the FUD by sloppily reporting this as iOS.
Expecting AI to clean up their act after being so sloppy for catering to web-clicks is pure fantasy. AI will delete this post by day's end because they know the truth stings a bit too much, and their boilerplate response being my post was "off topic".
Now that the app store has mostly caught up with the software functionality of Cydia, most jailbreakers do so not to thwart the "walled garden" but to thwart their carrier. Especially in China, there's a huge gray market for refurbished/second hand iPhones but those phones aren't capable of joining cell networks in such places without jailbreaking. Or people don't want to pay extra for things like tethering. Sure, it's very risky, but I'm not going to say the jailbreak community shouldn't exist. Exploits of a hacked platform aren't very newsworthy, but what is inferred is interesting. If iPhones were cheaper, I think the jailbreak community would substantially shrink. There would be far less incentive to jailbreak if you could go legit with an iPhone 5c off contract for, say, $50. Offer a way for pirates to go legit, solve two problems at once.
The info related to China is bullshit. I lived in China for 6 years with multiple iPhones ALL purchased outside China (US and Hong Kong), including the original iPhone and iPhone 6 (both are US v) and all worked in China without jail breaking.
Personally, the reason I still jailbreak is to get rid of the ridiculous animations and to use a five column springboard and dock with smaller icons. If Apple would provide this in stock iOS, I'd be less tempted to jailbreak.
This is no different than Mac OS hacks, who doesn't have admin rights on their Macs? I find the distinction between jailbroken and un-jailbroken devices to be lame.
I feel much safer in a jailbroken device where I have my root password changed and know exactly what is installed and have file level access to restore and copy data off my device.
The next thing Apple will do is lock everyone out of admin rights on their Macs. Let's see how that works out.
I bet you purchased all your phones legally, hence the term "gray market." Lots of stolen phones that get banned from joining a US carrier make their way overseas. But thanks for your condescending tone, here have a flag.
Enough JB hating! Has nothing to do with piracy. When apple opens up the UI etc... THEN there will be no reason. Stop the FUD. Learn before you JB. And yes it is animated...
The iOS "Walled Garden" doesn't seem so bad now, does it?
Still does. My iPad still isn't jailbroken, but to deny the history and the contributions to iOS that the jailbreak community has provided over the years is naive.
What can you not do on your non-jailbroken device? How much of that is pegged on the carrier, not the device or operating system? For example, my carrier has allowed tethering since day one (back in 2008), whereas many carriers still don't allow it without an extra charge or a long-term contract. Jailbreaking would get around that for those carriers, I agree.
The behaviors of "Podcasts" (downloads capped at 100MB on LTE) and TiVo (no streaming over LTE), are not imposed by the carrier, they're built into the application. Podcast's limitation was very likely demanded by AT&T early on, but it's hardcoded and applies regardless of the carrier. TiVo's may have been arbitrary to guarantee a minimum level of streaming quality, or due to some secret agreement with AT&T, who knows. Amazon only recently released this arbitrary limitation and now allows streaming over cellular data. Years ago I streamed both Amazon and TiVo over 3G without problems, thanks to jailbreaking.
As far as tethering, while it is available on recent iOS versions at the will of the carriers, this was not always the case; MyWiFi made it available at a time when the feature was not yet built into iOS.
These are the first apps I used to download from Cydia after jailbreaking my phone. I also purchased a few UI tweaks that were very nice, and an alternative bluetooth stack that allowed me to print to the Polaroid PoGo (to this day the iPhone does not support bluetooth OBEX!)
Enough JB hating! Has nothing to do with piracy. When apple opens up the UI etc... THEN there will be no reason. Stop the FUD. Learn before you JB. And yes it is animated...
Turn off security then download dodgy software from dodgy web sites. It's a bit like walking a high wire across the Niagara Falls: fine for experts but, if you don't know exactly what you're doing, it will surely end in tears. Are there really almost a quarter of a million experts out there?
Still does. My iPad still isn't jailbroken, but to deny the history and the contributions to iOS that the jailbreak community has provided over the years is naive.
Agree that the jailbreak community has push innovation, but there are many people who have no idea of what they are doing, people who are just trying to get free crap, not realizing the risk. Is there is one thing I know, there is no free stuff. And this people will find out that free can be very expensive.
This is why I changed the admin password on my laptop to something random that I don't even know. That way nothing can ever be installed on my machine apart from what the App Store allows. I feel so much safer.
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Now that the app store has mostly caught up with the software functionality of Cydia, most jailbreakers do so not to thwart the "walled garden" but to thwart their carrier. Especially in China, there's a huge gray market for refurbished/second hand iPhones but those phones aren't capable of joining cell networks in such places without jailbreaking. Or people don't want to pay extra for things like tethering. Sure, it's very risky, but I'm not going to say the jailbreak community shouldn't exist. Exploits of a hacked platform aren't very newsworthy, but what is inferred is interesting. If iPhones were cheaper, I think the jailbreak community would substantially shrink. There would be far less incentive to jailbreak if you could go legit with an iPhone 5c off contract for, say, $50. Offer a way for pirates to go legit, solve two problems at once.
There is. It's called KeyRaider. It will lock your phone so you can't open it and download viruses. /s
TOTALLY AGREE!!!!
They can get an Android. Save the effort
I think AppleInsider is remiss in calling this an iOS exploit, like, I'm sure, the other less informed media outlets will do as well.
iOS does not, nor will allow this exploit. It is the "no-longer-iOS" devices that allow this and AI shouldn't be adding to the FUD by sloppily reporting this as iOS.
Expecting AI to clean up their act after being so sloppy for catering to web-clicks is pure fantasy. AI will delete this post by day's end because they know the truth stings a bit too much, and their boilerplate response being my post was "off topic".
The info related to China is bullshit. I lived in China for 6 years with multiple iPhones ALL purchased outside China (US and Hong Kong), including the original iPhone and iPhone 6 (both are US v) and all worked in China without jail breaking.
If that manufacturer is Foxconn, then yes, it's Apple's fault. /s
Jailbreak FTW!... wait, wut?
Jailbreaking now allows a few minor things, and the risks have passed beyond mere adventure. Not worth it.
Disable security? No thanks.
This is no different than Mac OS hacks, who doesn't have admin rights on their Macs? I find the distinction between jailbroken and un-jailbroken devices to be lame.
I feel much safer in a jailbroken device where I have my root password changed and know exactly what is installed and have file level access to restore and copy data off my device.
The next thing Apple will do is lock everyone out of admin rights on their Macs. Let's see how that works out.
I bet you purchased all your phones legally, hence the term "gray market." Lots of stolen phones that get banned from joining a US carrier make their way overseas. But thanks for your condescending tone, here have a flag.
Enough JB hating! Has nothing to do with piracy. When apple opens up the UI etc... THEN there will be no reason. Stop the FUD. Learn before you JB. And yes it is animated...
The iOS "Walled Garden" doesn't seem so bad now, does it?
Still does. My iPad still isn't jailbroken, but to deny the history and the contributions to iOS that the jailbreak community has provided over the years is naive.
What can you not do on your non-jailbroken device? How much of that is pegged on the carrier, not the device or operating system? For example, my carrier has allowed tethering since day one (back in 2008), whereas many carriers still don't allow it without an extra charge or a long-term contract. Jailbreaking would get around that for those carriers, I agree.
The behaviors of "Podcasts" (downloads capped at 100MB on LTE) and TiVo (no streaming over LTE), are not imposed by the carrier, they're built into the application. Podcast's limitation was very likely demanded by AT&T early on, but it's hardcoded and applies regardless of the carrier. TiVo's may have been arbitrary to guarantee a minimum level of streaming quality, or due to some secret agreement with AT&T, who knows. Amazon only recently released this arbitrary limitation and now allows streaming over cellular data. Years ago I streamed both Amazon and TiVo over 3G without problems, thanks to jailbreaking.
As far as tethering, while it is available on recent iOS versions at the will of the carriers, this was not always the case; MyWiFi made it available at a time when the feature was not yet built into iOS.
These are the first apps I used to download from Cydia after jailbreaking my phone. I also purchased a few UI tweaks that were very nice, and an alternative bluetooth stack that allowed me to print to the Polaroid PoGo (to this day the iPhone does not support bluetooth OBEX!)
Turn off security then download dodgy software from dodgy web sites. It's a bit like walking a high wire across the Niagara Falls: fine for experts but, if you don't know exactly what you're doing, it will surely end in tears. Are there really almost a quarter of a million experts out there?
Don't do it - please.
Agree that the jailbreak community has push innovation, but there are many people who have no idea of what they are doing, people who are just trying to get free crap, not realizing the risk. Is there is one thing I know, there is no free stuff. And this people will find out that free can be very expensive.
This is why I changed the admin password on my laptop to something random that I don't even know. That way nothing can ever be installed on my machine apart from what the App Store allows. I feel so much safer.