they were. without a doubt.
as a non watch wearer before AW, I don't give a shit about somebody else wearing the same leather strap watch on his wrist. we aren't peacocking our wrists around. but if I were that sort, I'd probably wear a special watch to this hypothetical event.
I appreciate your expression of what you don't give a shit about. But how do you extrapolate that to the universal "we"? I guarantee that there are a lot of people who don't want to be wearing the same watch, regardless of size and strap differences, as a bunch of other people in the room, especially when they are wearing dresses or other sleeveless attire. Why do you think every major watch maker has hundreds of distinct watch models (not even including straps)? Yes, I know we shouldn't compare the ? Watch itself to traditional mechanical watches. But some of the underlying fundamentals that drove the mechanical makers' choices are still valid. Individuality in what you are wearing is one of those fundamentals for many people.
Thanks you! Apple people are not stupid; they are among the smartest in the business and I am sure they thought about the Apple Watch and what it should look like A LOT! (but neither are they infallible, and neither are Motorola people stupid, lets not forget that when raining sarcasm over them).
And I'm all for choice. If some people like round smartwatches better, great. I just don't believe from a functionality standpoint round is better and I take issue with the notion that Apple was lazy or took the easy way out because they went square. Considering we have multiple Android OEMs doing round it can't be that difficult. If Huawei can produce a round smartwatch surely Apple can and I'll bet they have tons of prototypes including round in their design studio.
I take issue with the notion that Apple was lazy or took the easy way out because they went square.
Anybody who says that is a bit slow in the head; no can accuse Apple of being lazy...... on the other hand, I found that intelligence and judgement are two different things. Intelligence is rational and analytical. Judgement, unfortunately, is emotional (that's why you have some intelligent people making apparently bad judgement like being anti-immigration, pro-gun, pro capital punishment, racist, holocaust deniers, climate change deniers, etc, all of which are purely analytically to be the "wrong" judgments). Jobs had no emotion, so his judgement was not clouded. I am not so sure about everyone else, so I expect Apple to make bad judgements (or avoiding judgement as can be glimpsed from their new approach to throwing everything they can think of into a new launch (e.g., Playlists, Connect, Radio, streaming, off-line, Match, Cloud, etc).
I don't think the square form factor is wrong judgement.... And I am refraining on judging anything else, I am neither intelligent nor without emotion,, I just provide my views and my emotions on this forum.
Exactly. People make it sound like this is so simple. Just like those who think it would be easy for Apple to make an ARM tablet with OS X on it. The fact is Apple thinks about these things longer and harder than anyone on an Internet message board does.
And just what is your expertise in this matter?
Indeed it may be simpler than you think it is. Apple has already dealt with something similar, in the transition form the 3.5" display to the 4" display. Likewise for the iPad. Developers had to support 2 or 3 different interfaces. The 6Plus gives them yet another new screen dimension with more room to implement more into their apps as well.
Granted, Apple made it as easy for them as possible, but to the extent there is a market for a round ?Watch, just how difficult do you imagine it would be, given that Apple would likely have a "round UI" team working on it, sharing common factors between the two?
My faith in Apple runs a little deeper than yours.
There are literally THOUSANDS of different bands you can wear with an AppleWatch.
Also options to paint or plate your watch with different metals.
Its very easy to get a unique looking AppleWatch.
Many people will want unique watch casings, not just rely on bands to differentiate. Having a different band from someone else is like having the same pair of Nike shoes but adorning them with different colored shoe laces. That won't fly. This is the intersection of fashion and tech. The former actually matters as much as the latter if you want a mass market hit with wearables.
Given that most people won't be getting gold ? Watches, there are really only 4 different choices of metal/color to distinguish your watch casing from the person beside you (size doesn't do that) and from a fashion perspective there really isn't enough difference between a space grey aluminum and space black stainless steel ? Watch. Same is true of the lighter colored versions of those two metals. Hell, many people wouldn't consider any of the 4 colors different enough to make one feel individualized. Wow, look! Yours is silvered aluminum and mine is space black stainless? Oh, and congratulations on your choice of wacky strap to make you feel unique! But we still have the same exact watch, even if we are also sporting different watch faces at the time. That feeling will be out there.
Now don't get me wrong, there are plenty of people that simply don't care about such things, and the ? Watch is going to be a big success. I have one and love it. There is a guy I work with that has the exact ? Watch I do, right down to the strap, size, color... everything. And I don't particularly care. But I know a lot of others who would and/or already do care. A little more variety in the watch casing style is going to be important to reach maximum market. For instance, Apple could keep the rectangular screen but modify the casing around it. And, by the way, I still wouldn't put it past Apple to come up with an elegant software solution to the rectangle to round conundrum. They are smarter than you are, sog. Don't sell them short just because you think you know it all.
Yuk. That would be ugly as hell and wasting a ton of screen space. A rectangle image in a round screen? Thats your solution?
No way Apple allows that. The App makers would have to redesign their entire App to fit round screens. And Apple would have to redesign WatchOS just to fit round screens. In other words = not going to happen.
It will either be ALL rectangle or ALL round. Not both. NO way in hell. That would be an extreme waste of resources (if they make 2 OS's) or very ugly interface (if they try to squeeze a rectangle interface into a circle)
But go ahead and fantasize about it. Just like some here fantasize about the return of the 3.5 inch iPhone
Note that the icon interface of the Watch OS is already perfectly designed to work with any shaped screen. With regard to specific apps, my hunch is that Apple could figure out how to make it not look so ugly (regarding unused space, whenever and wherever it exists) and also add helpers in Xcode to make different versions of the same app share as much as possible while still taking advantage of efficiencies that each format has over the other. Don't sell them short.
Granted, Apple made it as easy for them as possible, but to the extent there is a market for a round ?Watch, just how difficult do you imagine it would be, given that Apple would likely have a "round UI" team working on it, sharing common factors between the two?
My faith in Apple runs a little deeper than yours.
Notice how much more BULKY the round watch looks. This is Samsung's latest watch.
Looks clownish and Cheap. Even though there is way less USABLE screen space on the Samsung watch it looks so much larger.
Its simple geometry. A round format is not as efficent as rectangle. Watch screens are small enough, why the hell would you waste space using a round display. Its pure stupidity. Its called sticking to the traditional method for no reason at all. So mechanical watches are round so smartwatches should be round also. Dumb and Lazy.
Apple could make it not clownish and cheap, because they have taste, take their time to get it right, and are not Samsung. An ? Watch must be fashionable as well as functional, and variety is part of fashion. Thousands of straps notwithstanding, there currently isn't enough variety in the watches themselves to answer the call of fashion. You apparently will never grok this.
So why doesn't Apple make a round iPhone? Don't sell them short.
Simple: because iPhones aren't worn. Nor are Ferraris (nor are they sold in volume... it's more like a club of rich people). Same is true of a high-end watch or real diamond earrings, even though these are worn. Their very nature as rare status symbols flips the narrative. People who buy these want to be seen as part of "the club". Extreme Apple fanboy geeks (like us) like being part of a club too, so we will tolerate the similarities of wearing the same $500 gear, but the general population won't.
P.S. By the way, the most efficient shape from the perspective of maximizing area relative to perimeter and materials is a circle. And increased surface area is valuable for many computational purposes. Your best (valid) point is that rows of text don't efficiently fill that particular area. My counter point is that Apple is smart enough to address this.
A wearable will eventually replace the smartphone as the go to personal device. Anyone with the slightest amount of intelligence or vision can see this. The transition may take 5 years or 15 years. But its going to happen. The round watch does not fit into that goal. It is a step back. Just as making a round phone or round tablet would be a step backwards.
As long as people want to consume internet content, books, or videos, etc, in a large area and as long as one can't somehow get a large "screen" on a wearable (maybe by "projecting" such a view from a small into the air above it??) I don't see the smartphone getting replaced by a wearable. Do you really think something wearable will be able to provide this need within 15 years? Or do you think the desire to view large areas of content will go away by then? Or do you think people will be willing to wear a large screen itself (curved armbands perhaps)? I don't.
I don't think wearables are going to replace smartphones in that timeframe.
Another picture proving why Apple will never release a round smartwatch
Notice how much more BULKY the round watch looks. This is Samsung's latest watch.
Looks clownish and Cheap. Even though there is way less USABLE screen space on the Samsung watch it looks so much larger.
Its simple geometry. A round format is not as efficent as rectangle. Watch screens are small enough, why the hell would you waste space using a round display. Its pure stupidity. Its called sticking to the traditional method for no reason at all. So mechanical watches are round so smartwatches should be round also. Dumb and Lazy.
Hm. I think the Gear looks nice, maybe a tad too large, but aesthetically nicer than the Apple watch which looks like a mini computer strapped haphazardly onto a wrist (which it is). I have an Apple watch and like it, but I do not wear it because it looks good. I wear it because it has good functionality and does not look terrible. But if someone came to give the same functionality (or even slightly less) and look good, I'd switch. Quickly.
It's like Minivans: people bought them because they were practical, not terribly ugly, but not nice looking. Then came the SUV which is nice looking, and fulfills many advantages of the minivan, and people switched.
guess its true not all are born with an eye for good taste.
No. I can assure you we are not ;-) look at people's wrists (or clothes) on the tube, or around you in your office, and you will see reality. Especially in the summer (also now in the UK), people don't even wear "clothes", they just wear body cover up made of cloth. No patterns, no colour coordination, no sartorial cuts, just cloth with three holes called "t-shirt" and "shorts". But I digress, just to support your statement that very few have an eye for good taste.
Seriously, it is a bit big, but if Apple had come out with that form factor, I would not have been surprised: matte aluminium, two symmetric discreet buttons almost flush with the casing, the wristband neatly aligning with the watch itself. Clean lines. What happened to the flat tire?
The Apple Watch, in that picture, looks like US industrial design 1985, I have to admit (it looks better in real life, mine certainly does): a block of metal and glass, a round button sticking out here, a long button almost flush there, the armband attached with what looks like a paperclip.... If I saw this picture in an on-line shop, i would not buy the Apple Watch. This is not a Dieter Rams inspired design.... It is just the picture, take another one.
Bottom line is the Watch is still a computing device.
Apple can spew all they want about it being about style. Sure. Fine. But its primary purpose is a computing device. A computing device that looks nice. They will not compromise the computing device usability for more 'style'. They will not waste resources to release a round watch. What next? A triangle watch? Hexagon?
You argument is flawed. So what if Apple released a round watch. There will STILL be people who own the EXACT same watch as you do. Making a rectangle and a round watch won't solve the 'problem' of having a watch that is different from others. They would sell TENS OF MILLIONS OF EACH.
Apple is emphasizing fashion because they know it is going to matter. You are deemphasizing it because you don't care about it. But the world is not full of just "sogs". Fashion matters for a wearable, and Apple knows it. That's why they tried to provide choices as best they could in round number 1. I envision a round 2, and 3, etc, just like with iPod/iPhone/iPad. And as they go, Apple will introduce more variety. What's next after a circle, you say? Well perhaps they stick with rectangles and circles like the watch makers have done but introduce variability in the fine details of the casing itself (not just the colors and metals). This is not in Apple's DNA or MO, so I'm not sure whether they will do this detail work. If they want to go mainstream, I think they'll need to. Regardless, adding another elegant shape, such as a circle, would help quite a bit. They could at least double the set of choices provided with just that. A step in a good direction.
I don't disagree with anything you said about Google Glass sucking hard (for many reasons) or about Apple wanting to reset expectations regarding it being acceptable to wear a computing device. And I expect Apple to be successful to a large enough degree to overcome that social norm. But I do think they are going to have to step outside their comfort zone of offering such a limited number of SKUs and only counting on accessory-mix-and-match to provide the necessary customization. Going round, but keeping rectangle too, while adding flourishes that don't disrupt the computing aspects will help them do this. I expect such things will either come to pass, or the ? Watch will not go mainstream as the iPhone or iPad did before it. (Yes, I am fully aware of the comparatively rapid initial sales trajectory of the ? Watch relative to those others, but coming from a much much larger pool of Apple fans, that data should be taken with a grain of salt. A tasty grain, no doubt, but still a grain.)
Sorry but the Samsung watch looks like my $10 Timex
But hey if thats your taste so be it.
That's a lazy response.
I'm sure that the other poster is imagining what Apple could have done with a round shape. Why point to Samsung, or any of those other design wannabes to prove that round won't work? Looking at their rectangular gear, one could surmise that rectangles wouldn't work either.
The reality is the round watches all look clownish. I'm not going by some imaginary round watch by Apple that does not exist. But you can live in dreamland if you want.
Since when did you decide you'd no longer talk about an Apple product that doesn't (yet?) exist. So no more Apple router or Apple car talk from you then? I doubt it.
If fashion was the #1 priority they would have made a round watch.
You are the champion of the strawman argument, sog. I'll give you that.
In all of this thread... every post I've written here... I state only that fashion is critically important, not that I think it is number 1. I think function is critically important too. Furthermore, I think Apple realizes that both are critical and is still working hard to satisfy both. I think they aren't there yet on either score, and I fully expect them to achieve both in the years ahead. I like my rectangular ? Watch but would prefer a few more options with regard to style.
Meanwhile, you appear to either place fashion at zero or possibly can't hold two apparently competing thoughts in your cranium at the same time. You should try it some time. You might find that compromises can be made.
That's like saying my Car is really nice except the engine sometimes does not work. it's a bit too large for me. I'd rather have something more compact.
The reality is the round watches all look clownish. I'm not going by some imaginary round watch by Apple that does not exist. But you can live in dreamland if you want.
Show me a good looking and nice User Interface round watch. It does not exist. Because either you have to compromise with a tiny usable screen or have a HUGE screen that is usable. I don't understand why thats so hard for you to understand. There is a very good reason why all computers, laptops, tablets, and smartphones have rectangle screens.
You cannot deny that a huge part of the lousy look of all those round Android watches has to do with some really poor design decisions that were made either in haste or without taste. Apple would do neither and would have done much better, even with a round format. You could argue that it wouldn't be good as the rectangular format (which you are) but that's not the same as saying "this piece of Android poo proves that round watches don't work". That's what you are doing, and it is both lazy and not a logical fact.
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I appreciate your expression of what you don't give a shit about. But how do you extrapolate that to the universal "we"? I guarantee that there are a lot of people who don't want to be wearing the same watch, regardless of size and strap differences, as a bunch of other people in the room, especially when they are wearing dresses or other sleeveless attire. Why do you think every major watch maker has hundreds of distinct watch models (not even including straps)? Yes, I know we shouldn't compare the ? Watch itself to traditional mechanical watches. But some of the underlying fundamentals that drove the mechanical makers' choices are still valid. Individuality in what you are wearing is one of those fundamentals for many people.
And I'm all for choice. If some people like round smartwatches better, great. I just don't believe from a functionality standpoint round is better and I take issue with the notion that Apple was lazy or took the easy way out because they went square. Considering we have multiple Android OEMs doing round it can't be that difficult. If Huawei can produce a round smartwatch surely Apple can and I'll bet they have tons of prototypes including round in their design studio.
I take issue with the notion that Apple was lazy or took the easy way out because they went square.
Anybody who says that is a bit slow in the head; no can accuse Apple of being lazy...... on the other hand, I found that intelligence and judgement are two different things. Intelligence is rational and analytical. Judgement, unfortunately, is emotional (that's why you have some intelligent people making apparently bad judgement like being anti-immigration, pro-gun, pro capital punishment, racist, holocaust deniers, climate change deniers, etc, all of which are purely analytically to be the "wrong" judgments). Jobs had no emotion, so his judgement was not clouded. I am not so sure about everyone else, so I expect Apple to make bad judgements (or avoiding judgement as can be glimpsed from their new approach to throwing everything they can think of into a new launch (e.g., Playlists, Connect, Radio, streaming, off-line, Match, Cloud, etc).
I don't think the square form factor is wrong judgement.... And I am refraining on judging anything else, I am neither intelligent nor without emotion,, I just provide my views and my emotions on this forum.
Exactly. People make it sound like this is so simple. Just like those who think it would be easy for Apple to make an ARM tablet with OS X on it. The fact is Apple thinks about these things longer and harder than anyone on an Internet message board does.
And just what is your expertise in this matter?
Indeed it may be simpler than you think it is. Apple has already dealt with something similar, in the transition form the 3.5" display to the 4" display. Likewise for the iPad. Developers had to support 2 or 3 different interfaces. The 6Plus gives them yet another new screen dimension with more room to implement more into their apps as well.
Granted, Apple made it as easy for them as possible, but to the extent there is a market for a round ?Watch, just how difficult do you imagine it would be, given that Apple would likely have a "round UI" team working on it, sharing common factors between the two?
My faith in Apple runs a little deeper than yours.
There are literally THOUSANDS of different bands you can wear with an AppleWatch.
Also options to paint or plate your watch with different metals.
Its very easy to get a unique looking AppleWatch.
Many people will want unique watch casings, not just rely on bands to differentiate. Having a different band from someone else is like having the same pair of Nike shoes but adorning them with different colored shoe laces. That won't fly. This is the intersection of fashion and tech. The former actually matters as much as the latter if you want a mass market hit with wearables.
Given that most people won't be getting gold ? Watches, there are really only 4 different choices of metal/color to distinguish your watch casing from the person beside you (size doesn't do that) and from a fashion perspective there really isn't enough difference between a space grey aluminum and space black stainless steel ? Watch. Same is true of the lighter colored versions of those two metals. Hell, many people wouldn't consider any of the 4 colors different enough to make one feel individualized. Wow, look! Yours is silvered aluminum and mine is space black stainless? Oh, and congratulations on your choice of wacky strap to make you feel unique! But we still have the same exact watch, even if we are also sporting different watch faces at the time. That feeling will be out there.
Now don't get me wrong, there are plenty of people that simply don't care about such things, and the ? Watch is going to be a big success. I have one and love it. There is a guy I work with that has the exact ? Watch I do, right down to the strap, size, color... everything. And I don't particularly care. But I know a lot of others who would and/or already do care. A little more variety in the watch casing style is going to be important to reach maximum market. For instance, Apple could keep the rectangular screen but modify the casing around it. And, by the way, I still wouldn't put it past Apple to come up with an elegant software solution to the rectangle to round conundrum. They are smarter than you are, sog. Don't sell them short just because you think you know it all.
Yuk. That would be ugly as hell and wasting a ton of screen space. A rectangle image in a round screen? Thats your solution?
No way Apple allows that. The App makers would have to redesign their entire App to fit round screens. And Apple would have to redesign WatchOS just to fit round screens. In other words = not going to happen.
It will either be ALL rectangle or ALL round. Not both. NO way in hell. That would be an extreme waste of resources (if they make 2 OS's) or very ugly interface (if they try to squeeze a rectangle interface into a circle)
But go ahead and fantasize about it. Just like some here fantasize about the return of the 3.5 inch iPhone
Note that the icon interface of the Watch OS is already perfectly designed to work with any shaped screen. With regard to specific apps, my hunch is that Apple could figure out how to make it not look so ugly (regarding unused space, whenever and wherever it exists) and also add helpers in Xcode to make different versions of the same app share as much as possible while still taking advantage of efficiencies that each format has over the other. Don't sell them short.
This.
Apple could make it not clownish and cheap, because they have taste, take their time to get it right, and are not Samsung. An ? Watch must be fashionable as well as functional, and variety is part of fashion. Thousands of straps notwithstanding, there currently isn't enough variety in the watches themselves to answer the call of fashion. You apparently will never grok this.
Simple: because iPhones aren't worn. Nor are Ferraris (nor are they sold in volume... it's more like a club of rich people). Same is true of a high-end watch or real diamond earrings, even though these are worn. Their very nature as rare status symbols flips the narrative. People who buy these want to be seen as part of "the club". Extreme Apple fanboy geeks (like us) like being part of a club too, so we will tolerate the similarities of wearing the same $500 gear, but the general population won't.
P.S. By the way, the most efficient shape from the perspective of maximizing area relative to perimeter and materials is a circle. And increased surface area is valuable for many computational purposes. Your best (valid) point is that rows of text don't efficiently fill that particular area. My counter point is that Apple is smart enough to address this.
A wearable will eventually replace the smartphone as the go to personal device. Anyone with the slightest amount of intelligence or vision can see this. The transition may take 5 years or 15 years. But its going to happen. The round watch does not fit into that goal. It is a step back. Just as making a round phone or round tablet would be a step backwards.
As long as people want to consume internet content, books, or videos, etc, in a large area and as long as one can't somehow get a large "screen" on a wearable (maybe by "projecting" such a view from a small into the air above it??) I don't see the smartphone getting replaced by a wearable. Do you really think something wearable will be able to provide this need within 15 years? Or do you think the desire to view large areas of content will go away by then? Or do you think people will be willing to wear a large screen itself (curved armbands perhaps)? I don't.
I don't think wearables are going to replace smartphones in that timeframe.
Another picture proving why Apple will never release a round smartwatch
Notice how much more BULKY the round watch looks. This is Samsung's latest watch.
Looks clownish and Cheap. Even though there is way less USABLE screen space on the Samsung watch it looks so much larger.
Its simple geometry. A round format is not as efficent as rectangle. Watch screens are small enough, why the hell would you waste space using a round display. Its pure stupidity. Its called sticking to the traditional method for no reason at all. So mechanical watches are round so smartwatches should be round also. Dumb and Lazy.
Hm. I think the Gear looks nice, maybe a tad too large, but aesthetically nicer than the Apple watch which looks like a mini computer strapped haphazardly onto a wrist (which it is). I have an Apple watch and like it, but I do not wear it because it looks good. I wear it because it has good functionality and does not look terrible. But if someone came to give the same functionality (or even slightly less) and look good, I'd switch. Quickly.
It's like Minivans: people bought them because they were practical, not terribly ugly, but not nice looking. Then came the SUV which is nice looking, and fulfills many advantages of the minivan, and people switched.
Interested to hear what others think.
really?
guess its true not all are born with an eye for good taste.
No. I can assure you we are not ;-) look at people's wrists (or clothes) on the tube, or around you in your office, and you will see reality. Especially in the summer (also now in the UK), people don't even wear "clothes", they just wear body cover up made of cloth. No patterns, no colour coordination, no sartorial cuts, just cloth with three holes called "t-shirt" and "shorts". But I digress, just to support your statement that very few have an eye for good taste.
Seriously, it is a bit big, but if Apple had come out with that form factor, I would not have been surprised: matte aluminium, two symmetric discreet buttons almost flush with the casing, the wristband neatly aligning with the watch itself. Clean lines. What happened to the flat tire?
The Apple Watch, in that picture, looks like US industrial design 1985, I have to admit (it looks better in real life, mine certainly does): a block of metal and glass, a round button sticking out here, a long button almost flush there, the armband attached with what looks like a paperclip.... If I saw this picture in an on-line shop, i would not buy the Apple Watch. This is not a Dieter Rams inspired design.... It is just the picture, take another one.
Bottom line is the Watch is still a computing device.
Apple can spew all they want about it being about style. Sure. Fine. But its primary purpose is a computing device. A computing device that looks nice. They will not compromise the computing device usability for more 'style'. They will not waste resources to release a round watch. What next? A triangle watch? Hexagon?
You argument is flawed. So what if Apple released a round watch. There will STILL be people who own the EXACT same watch as you do. Making a rectangle and a round watch won't solve the 'problem' of having a watch that is different from others. They would sell TENS OF MILLIONS OF EACH.
Apple is emphasizing fashion because they know it is going to matter. You are deemphasizing it because you don't care about it. But the world is not full of just "sogs". Fashion matters for a wearable, and Apple knows it. That's why they tried to provide choices as best they could in round number 1. I envision a round 2, and 3, etc, just like with iPod/iPhone/iPad. And as they go, Apple will introduce more variety. What's next after a circle, you say? Well perhaps they stick with rectangles and circles like the watch makers have done but introduce variability in the fine details of the casing itself (not just the colors and metals). This is not in Apple's DNA or MO, so I'm not sure whether they will do this detail work. If they want to go mainstream, I think they'll need to. Regardless, adding another elegant shape, such as a circle, would help quite a bit. They could at least double the set of choices provided with just that. A step in a good direction.
I don't disagree with anything you said about Google Glass sucking hard (for many reasons) or about Apple wanting to reset expectations regarding it being acceptable to wear a computing device. And I expect Apple to be successful to a large enough degree to overcome that social norm. But I do think they are going to have to step outside their comfort zone of offering such a limited number of SKUs and only counting on accessory-mix-and-match to provide the necessary customization. Going round, but keeping rectangle too, while adding flourishes that don't disrupt the computing aspects will help them do this. I expect such things will either come to pass, or the ? Watch will not go mainstream as the iPhone or iPad did before it. (Yes, I am fully aware of the comparatively rapid initial sales trajectory of the ? Watch relative to those others, but coming from a much much larger pool of Apple fans, that data should be taken with a grain of salt. A tasty grain, no doubt, but still a grain.)
Sorry but the Samsung watch looks like my $10 Timex
But hey if thats your taste so be it.
That's a lazy response.
I'm sure that the other poster is imagining what Apple could have done with a round shape. Why point to Samsung, or any of those other design wannabes to prove that round won't work? Looking at their rectangular gear, one could surmise that rectangles wouldn't work either.
If fashion was the #1 priority they would have made a round watch.
You are the champion of the strawman argument, sog. I'll give you that.
In all of this thread... every post I've written here... I state only that fashion is critically important, not that I think it is number 1. I think function is critically important too. Furthermore, I think Apple realizes that both are critical and is still working hard to satisfy both. I think they aren't there yet on either score, and I fully expect them to achieve both in the years ahead. I like my rectangular ? Watch but would prefer a few more options with regard to style.
Meanwhile, you appear to either place fashion at zero or possibly can't hold two apparently competing thoughts in your cranium at the same time. You should try it some time. You might find that compromises can be made.
Fixed the comparison for ya.
Its not lazy. Its a FACT.
I can only go by what is REALITY.
The reality is the round watches all look clownish. I'm not going by some imaginary round watch by Apple that does not exist. But you can live in dreamland if you want.
Show me a good looking and nice User Interface round watch. It does not exist. Because either you have to compromise with a tiny usable screen or have a HUGE screen that is usable. I don't understand why thats so hard for you to understand. There is a very good reason why all computers, laptops, tablets, and smartphones have rectangle screens.
You cannot deny that a huge part of the lousy look of all those round Android watches has to do with some really poor design decisions that were made either in haste or without taste. Apple would do neither and would have done much better, even with a round format. You could argue that it wouldn't be good as the rectangular format (which you are) but that's not the same as saying "this piece of Android poo proves that round watches don't work". That's what you are doing, and it is both lazy and not a logical fact.
Sorry but the Samsung watch looks like my $10 Timex
But hey if thats your taste so be it.
Elegance vs a block of metal and glass with random buttons at random places in different sizes and different shapes (what got into them, I ask)