Rumor: Disaster at MWNY... :(
Spymac is reporting that the G4 will be stuck at 1.2 GHz, and that as an act of desperation, Apple will make ALL powermacs dual processor.
Spymac DID nail the eMac rumor, so they certainly have some good sources. The question is if this report is based on a good source. What's scary is that Spymac usually errs on the side of optimism...
Spymac DID nail the eMac rumor, so they certainly have some good sources. The question is if this report is based on a good source. What's scary is that Spymac usually errs on the side of optimism...
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going with all dual machines sounds like a neat idea, but now it will be even harder for me to afford one.
something like:
2x800
2x1 Ghz
2x1.2 Ghz
would rock.
ting5
Hell the CURRENT 1 GHZ G4 boxes can be overclocked to 1.2 GHZ no problem!
What this would mean is that Moto has hit another barrier, much like the 500 MHz barrier. Also, Moto has said before that the G4 isn't going to scale much beyond 1 GHz.
If this is all Apple's got, then they should make it another silent update and plan on pro sales taking a major hit. This could be the beginning of the end of Apple as we know them.
<strong>This is extra-troubling because of the Powerlogix 1 GHz upgrades. If people can buy a dual 1 GHz upgrade card, then why buy a $3500 Powermac if they are stuck at 1.2 GHz?
Hell the CURRENT 1 GHZ G4 boxes can be overclocked to 1.2 GHZ no problem!
What this would mean is that Moto has hit another barrier, much like the 500 MHz barrier. Also, Moto has said before that the G4 isn't going to scale much beyond 1 GHz.
If this is all Apple's got, then they should make it another silent update and plan on pro sales taking a major hit. This could be the beginning of the end of Apple as we know them.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Bah. You don't know your elbow from your *******. It's ALWAYS the end of Apple, and yet it continues on. Really, you should just bail if it's a problem for you.
And don't give me that "I care about the platform" excuse, either, because you don't. You just care about things like specs and speed ratings because your life is devoid of other meaning (or some other psycho/neurological condition as yet undignosed). If the Mac no longer is cost-effective or underpowered for your tastes, move on.
But most of all, just shut up.
ting5
Explain why I intend to keep this computer another 2-3 years, and to never spend over $400 on a CPU upgrade?
I think it's YOU who's got some weird psych disorder. What's more pathological...being concerned about a lack of competitive hardware from Apple, or lashing out with personal attacks whenever someone expresses such concern?
You tell me.
[ 06-26-2002: Message edited by: pey/coy-ote ]</p>
<strong>Ok, dipsh!t, if I only care about specs and speed ratings, then explain why I'm content with my Powermac G4 400, w/ Radeon?
Explain why I intend to keep this computer another 2-3 years, and to never spend over $400 on a CPU upgrade?
I think it's YOU who's got some weird psych disorder. What's more pathological...being concerned about a lack of competitive hardware from Apple, or lashing out with personal attacks whenever someone expresses such concern?
You tell me.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well said.
<strong>
Bah. You don't know your elbow from your *******. It's ALWAYS the end of Apple, and yet it continues on. Really, you should just bail if it's a problem for you.
And don't give me that "I care about the platform" excuse, either, because you don't. You just care about things like specs and speed ratings because your life is devoid of other meaning (or some other psycho/neurological condition as yet undignosed). If the Mac no longer is cost-effective or underpowered for your tastes, move on.
But most of all, just shut up.
ting5</strong><hr></blockquote>
Amen. Besides a 20% speed bump ain't bad. What's everyone want, 1.6 Ghz duals (yeah right a 60% speed bump because Moto worked some Mojo)
reality is a B!tch ain't it.
If this happens, it won't be the first time according to some....
Apple should produce proper DDR266 1.4Ghz G4s at MWNY, and thats modest...
Second, you talk as if dual 1.2GHz is a bad thing. I'd much rather have a dual 1.2GHz computer than a single 1.4 or even 1.6. Everyone in computing is saying that the answer for future faster processors isn't clock speed but rather more efficient design.
And the big update with the next PowerMacs isn't in MHz, it's in the motherboard. They could keep the current speeds and throw in DDR and it would still be a huge upgrade. You people place way too much weight on clock speed.
[ 06-26-2002: Message edited by: Rasputin ]</p>
<strong>This could be the beginning of the end of Apple as we know them.</strong><hr></blockquote>
If I had a nickel...
IT'S SPYMAC!
The people who brought you the iWalk, and then the iWalk part 2. Sure, they've had SOME good info since then, but don't think that they don't throw a lot of BS in with that occasion good info.
And as mentioned above, this "rumor" is from an anonymous tipster, based only on an Apple Rep's statement that graphics pros should only buy Dual Ghz machines.
First I'd like to dispel some things. Most Apple Reps don't know jack about future products. Every Apple employee I know follows the rumors just like the "commoners." Only a handful of people know what is coming *for sure* in NY, but still, only some of those who work AT the campus and a couple outside would even know what's in development.
Second, there was a comment on Spymac that the Dual machines have a lot more problems than single proc machines and that the rep was probably just trying to sell some stuff. Let me again say that that is BS. I know that there's no particular model that has more problems than any other. If anything, there are more problems with the 733/867/933 machines because more of them were sold!
Let me just say this much: I didn't predict Dual 1.5 Ghz machines randomly. I have some damn good reasons for picking that number. One never knows with Apple, but 1.5 Ghz is a number that has some meaning.
1.2 Ghz would've been an update worthy of LAST Macworld NY, when there was a near riot. Somehow there we went from 1 733 to 2 800s and it was crappy, but we'd all be happy with 2 1000 going to 2 1200? No WAY.
We all know that Junkyard Dawg is an incredibly pessimistic poster (Apple is doomed! etc etc etc) and this Spymac post is only adding to it. I could just as easily post something elsewhere saying Dual 1.5 Ghz, would that make anyone believe it more? All I'm saying is, don't take Spymac at its word--they are FAR from the final say in new products, and once again, my sources seem to conflict with theirs...
That is a BIG improvement.
However, my guess is that Apple has more up it sleve than that. The simple fact that UG cards have hit 1GHZ SPEAKS VOLUMES.