Apple to launch new metal 4-inch iPhone with A9 CPU in 2016, insider says

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  • Reply 61 of 84
    sirlance99 wrote: »
    Why? People need to get over the small form factor.

    Why? People need to get over thinking that what's right for them is right for everyone.
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  • Reply 62 of 84
    sog35 wrote: »
    I think it would be too hard to stuff all the tech of the 7 into a smaller package.

    Apple tries and eventually whittles it down to the right size. For example the iPad 3, the iPad mini, and the iPhone 3GS were on the chunky side of Apple products. All were replaced by thankfully thinner models as Apple found new ways to shave weight and thickness off without losing the target battery life.
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  • Reply 63 of 84
    fallenjtfallenjt Posts: 4,057member
    inkling wrote: »
    Except for that signal-blocking metal case, this makes sense. There are many people who're not caught up in having the latest technology and many whose small hands make these larger phones cumbersome. There's a market for this phone.

    Now how about a Sport model that's ruggedized and waterproof? How about an EL model for people on the go who need a longer battery life?

    Apple should realize that when you grow past a certain size, you can no longer get by with trying to make a couple of models fit all needs.
    Asian have small hands and they bought more 6+ than 6. Your argument for small phone on small hand is irrelevant.
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  • Reply 64 of 84
    fallenjtfallenjt Posts: 4,057member
    smalm wrote: »

    Steve Jobs (5) sold apple juice in front of his home.
    and Sog35 bought juice from him?
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  • Reply 65 of 84
    fallenjtfallenjt Posts: 4,057member
    wood1208 wrote: »
    This will help apple users still on iphone 4s and 5/5s and not willing to move to larger screen due to portability/handling; this new iphone 7 mini will help them upgrade otherwise they will continue using same old iphones for few more years. Plus, people like to give smaller iphone to their highschool kids due to higher accidental damages that occur in larger iphones or any larger smartphones with that age careless kids. Moreover, this will bring VOLTE, VOWIFI, ApplePay, Band 12 and more LTE Bands to smaller iphone. Got to happen in 2016.
    iphone 7 Plus 3GB RAM,
    iphone 7 2GB RAM,
    iphone 7 mini 2GB RAM,

    Perfect iphone 7 family.
    how do they price these into current line up? If you think the new 4" iPhone with 2GB of RAM is priced at $99 subsidized same price as 6S, you're delusional.
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  • Reply 66 of 84
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by fallenjt View Post





    Asian have small hands and they bought more 6+ than 6. Your argument for small phone on small hand is irrelevant.

    Where did that data came from?

     

    There are usually a number of factors a person considers when selecting a certain size phone, just as there is when deciding on which make, model, price, storage size, etc. is right for them.

     

    For example perhaps someone in China would select a 6+ because they will have only one device, so that size is best for them as it will serve as their phone, tablet and computer.

     

    It could be hand size or any other preference such as seniors who only use it as a phone and don't want to carry around something bulky. Perhaps a construction worker or a farmer or police for the same reason of unwanted bulk.

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  • Reply 67 of 84
    sirlance99 wrote: »
    Why? People need to get over the small form factor.

    Some people have small hands. My GF loves her 5s and doesn't want anything larger.
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  • Reply 68 of 84
    pmzpmz Posts: 3,433member

    They should not skip 3D Touch. A phone that is almost equal to an iPhone 6s in a 4" case would sell well at $99 / $549. Very well. Maybe even too well for Apple's liking...

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  • Reply 69 of 84
    sog35 wrote: »
    I'm doing my concerned troll impression.  Still working on it.
    Well I thought it was pretty funny, ....but not as funny as the hair trigger "how dare you, fact check your dates" responses
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  • Reply 70 of 84
    toddzrxtoddzrx Posts: 254member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RadarTheKat View Post



    No way Apple will make another iPhone model that doesn't include 3D Touch, along with the associated haptic feedback motor, regardless of what some dorky analyst claims he knows. Mark my words.

     

    Because, obviously, you know more than he does.

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  • Reply 71 of 84
    joshajosha Posts: 901member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mcarling View Post

     

    If it costs the same as the iPhone 6S Plus, I'll buy one.


    You don't mind overpaying.

    Anyway I'm there now, with my clear out  iPhone4c 16 gb for CDN $400 in July.   It even has the power button where I don't hold it !

    My still perfect 4.5 year old iPhone4 was bogging down on iOS7 and current software, plus some Apps no longer worked on iOS7.

     

    Here because of the 30% USA exchange rate the iPhone6 which I like, starts at CDN $900.

     Too high a price and since it is mostly not made in the USA Apple makes an even bigger profit; a huge+ profit !

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  • Reply 72 of 84
    joshajosha Posts: 901member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by fallenjt View Post

     
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Inkling View Post



    Except for that signal-blocking metal case, this makes sense. There are many people who're not caught up in having the latest technology and many whose small hands make these larger phones cumbersome. There's a market for this phone.



    Now how about a Sport model that's ruggedized and waterproof? How about an EL model for people on the go who need a longer battery life?



    Apple should realize that when you grow past a certain size, you can no longer get by with trying to make a couple of models fit all needs.


    Asian have small hands and they bought more 6+ than 6. Your argument for small phone on small hand is irrelevant.

    To true, in Hawaii I saw lots of Koreans with Samsung large phones.

    The men had a good grip on them, the ladies used two hands to hold them.

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  • Reply 73 of 84

    I can't stand my 6 so I'm super interested in this, but if they're going to gimp it because they want to make it thin for the sake of being thin, then they've screwed another phone IMO.

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  • Reply 74 of 84
    jfc1138jfc1138 Posts: 3,090member
    For that segment that uses the iPhone as a phone I can see that size being attractive.

    For my needs a wireless connected minicomputer is the thing so the Plus iPhones are nice, and my cargo pants of choice have just the right pockets for them.
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  • Reply 75 of 84
    sog35 wrote: »
    No 3.5 inch model? So doomed. Steve Jobs would never allow this to happen.

    I've owned every Apple product since 1960. But lately Apple has been too concerned about profits and political issues.

    If your Apple 1 with the MOS 6502 processor is for sale, I would like to make an offer.
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  • Reply 76 of 84

    I wouldn't hold my breath on this, although it would be a pleasant surprise to see Apple come out with an updated 4" iPhone.

     

    I'd even welcome something as simple as slipping the A9 into the iPhone 5/5s case, and updating the baseband. With the smaller and lower resolution screen, an A9-powered 4" iPhone in the 5/5s body would have screaming fast performance.

     

    However, if Apple launches a new 4" model, they'll want something marketable as a new model. So, who knows if they will introduce new colors or go with an ultrathin shell like the current iPod touch.

     

    I still use my 5s, and for now plan sit out the 6s/6s Plus cycle. I like the new phones and the new upgrades. But, I still prefer the smaller form factor. The 5s was way ahead of the curve when it came out two years ago, and still delivers great performance and app compatibility. Don't see the need to go upgrade yet. But, a new 4" model would at least make things a lot more tempting.

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  • Reply 77 of 84
    mac_128mac_128 Posts: 3,454member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by fallenjt View Post





    how do they price these into current line up? If you think the new 4" iPhone with 2GB of RAM is priced at $99 subsidized same price as 6S, you're delusional.

    Who said anything about $99 subsidized?

     

    Now that Apple has gone to mainly unsubsidized pricing, who knows how they will shake up the pricing structure when they release the iPhone 7? 

     

    The ?Watch is sold in $49 increments. So why not more subtle price differentiation with the phones? Right now it doesn't make much sense to offer the 6+ for the same price as the 6S, yet they do. As costs come down, and the product offerings change, and people start paying full price for the phones, it's going to be much easier to do this. And screen size makes a perfect line of demarcation. It might be as simple as this:

     

    $400 - 6

    $450 - 6+

    $500 - 6S

    $550/600 - 6S +

    $600 - 7 mini

    $650 - 7

    $750 - 7 +

     

    I could even see the 7 mini going for the same price as the 6S since there's a huge difference between them as far as screen size, despite the technology likely not being that different. 

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  • Reply 78 of 84
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    mac_128 wrote: »
    fallenjt wrote: »
    how do they price these into current line up? If you think the new 4" iPhone with 2GB of RAM is priced at $99 subsidized same price as 6S, you're delusional.
    Who said anything about $99 subsidized?

    Now that Apple has gone to mainly unsubsidized pricing, who knows how they will shake up the pricing structure when they release the iPhone 7? 

    The ?Watch is sold in $49 increments. So why not more subtle price differentiation with the phones? Right now it doesn't make much sense to offer the 6+ for the same price as the 6S, yet they do. As costs come down, and the product offerings change, and people start paying full price for the phones, it's going to be much easier to do this. And screen size makes a perfect line of demarcation. It might be as simple as this:

    $400 - 6
    $450 - 6+
    $500 - 6S
    $550/600 - 6S +
    $600 - 7 mini
    $650 - 7
    $750 - 7 +

    I could even see the 7 mini going for the same price as the 6S since there's a huge difference between them as far as screen size, despite the technology likely not being that different. 

    Apple did use subsidized prices when they unveiled the iPhone 6s/6s Plus.
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  • Reply 79 of 84
    mac_128mac_128 Posts: 3,454member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post





    Apple did use subsidized prices when they unveiled the iPhone 6s/6s Plus.



    Whether they did or not this year, they just released their annual upgrade plan. Considering the major carriers are also offering the phones with upgrade plans, or financed rates, and or other promotions, I don't really expect universal subsidized 2-year contract fees to make sense next year. It'll be interesting to see if Apple lists them as "starting at $21.64/month", or the universal sim purchase price, since every carrier is different now. 

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  • Reply 80 of 84
    slurpyslurpy Posts: 5,398member

    I can't believe AI republishes crap from this moron, and even goes to far as to call it an expectation in the headline. Some previous nuggets:

     

    Quote:

     In fact, the change will be so substantial that he believes Apple may decide to call the handset the “iPhone 7,” rather than an “iPhone 6s.”


     

    Uhh..

     

    Quote:

     “We believe that iPhone’s Force Touch sensor doesn’t directly detect the pressure applied by fingers,” Kuo said. “Instead, it monitors the contact area on which the finger touches the screen to decide how big the pressure is.”


     

    Wow. That would have been quite the unreliable hack. 

    Not only is this idiot epically wrong most of the time, but his predictions confirm that he really has no clue of how Apple operates. Why would they actually skip the "S" convention, while keeping the same physical design? Why on earth would they implement a "fake" pressure sensitive screen, when that will be such a core, underlying differentiator in their HW and SW? These nuggets aren't even realistic for anyone who follows Apple. 

     

    Im glad AI keeps shilling for this "insider". 

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