I wonder how much more expensive it costs to make a computer a cube than the same computer a tower. Because I would love to see the G5 introduced in a redecorated Cube enclosure.... wait, scratch that. Too many memories of the past coming up here. RIP thy G4Cube, thou hardly knew the.
-ARW
PS-I really think Apple made the mistake of taking the plunge in to the world of the G4 before they were ready for it. They should have squeezed a little more PowerMac life from the G3. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
PS-I really think Apple made the mistake of taking the plunge in to the world of the G4 before they were ready for it. They should have squeezed a little more PowerMac life from the G3. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
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Apparently Apple agrees with you and is determined not to repeat that error.
I dunno about the powermacs, and when I think about it, I don't know about the iPods either.
Will we see a PC iPod from Apple? Maybe, kinda. While I think Apple could certainly sell a whole lotta PC iPods, I'm not sure if they want to at this point. One thing to do with the iPod is push some of it's portable HDD storage function. Maybe Apple will supply a good Windows "Target disk mode type" function for the iPod so that it's easier to transfer files from your mac to various PC's or vice versa -- without neccessarily providing an MP3 functionality for Windows. It's all about how nice Macs and PC's get along, remember? I dunno.
Many want Apple to use the iPod to get PC users feet in the mac door. Give them a windows iPod and when they fall in love with it they might get tempted into buying a mac as their next computer. Expand their horizons a little bit at a time?
The only problem I see with that is Apple's meager 90 day warrantee. I've read a few disturbing reports about iPod's crapping out. Apple seems utterly unwilling to stand behind the iPod for more than 90 days. If said PC users ever bought an iPod (PC) for their first 'mac' experience and it fvcked up in a few months with no recourse but expensive repair or replacement, you can pretty much bet they won't ever consider a mac for anything ever again. While many Apple users are all to content to spread their cheeks wide for Steve's RDF(allus) most (almost) PC converts won't take kindly to getting reamed by Steve and co.
Untill they can sell the thing with a 1 year guarantee, they sould stick to their loyal fans.
New cases will prolly be white instead of silver, both of the new machines, the eMac and the iMac are white. Yea the xSerevr is silver but its not something that normally sits on a desk. Hopefully the mobo update will include DDR memory and the new case design will not be as noisy. At least one Firewire port in front would be nice also.
As for the iPod, it needs a cradle that would allow it to be hooked up to your home stereo and a remote.
Way back, perhaps before the Great AI Outage, didn't Dorsal mention a white enclosure. A cross between the Quicksilver case and the Cube. I thought I heard that the system components slide out, drawer-style, out the back.
Screed ...Or did I dream that??</strong><hr></blockquote>
You didn't.
Dorsal mentioned a sort of "Cube on its side" design with a slide-out drawer.
not a remote like something for the TV, a remote like something that controlls the songs and volume on the headphone wire so you dont have to take the iPod outa the case to control it... think sony minidisc</strong><hr></blockquote>
Something like this?
you can't really tell, but its supposed to have a titanium tinge to it. I call it a TiPod. I know consumer products are all white now, but I'm just playing around...
Here's a crazt thought, what if for the new 2 button plus scroll wheel mouse everyone keeps clamoring for Apple instead of a plain ol scroll wheel included a "scroll jog dial" like the one on the iPod only smaller (kind o like 4 way button on a game pad). For size maybe a touch smaller than a quarter would do. Now you could scroll up and down and left and right without finding the scroll bars. After all, Macs are more likely to be used for Artistic Puroses rather than as glorified typewriters or WebTVs so shouldn't our input devices reflect that?
Here's a crazt thought, what if for the new 2 button plus scroll wheel mouse everyone keeps clamoring for Apple instead of a plain ol scroll wheel included a "scroll jog dial" like the one on the iPod only smaller (kind o like 4 way button on a game pad). For size maybe a touch smaller than a quarter would do. Now you could scroll up and down and left and right without finding the scroll bars. After all, Macs are more likely to be used for Artistic Puroses rather than as glorified typewriters or WebTVs so shouldn't our input devices reflect that?</strong><hr></blockquote>
You know something? That idea's... intriguing. It seems a little difficult for me to conceptualize ATM, but properly arranged there could be a definite utility for certain 'artistic' (A/V, color manipulation, menu navigation) purposes. Cool, and different: Apple. I think, though, that Apple likes the one button (whole body/ambidexterous) click simplicity of their current design. One solution I could see is to mount a smaller jog dial array ahead of the main button/body of the pro-mouse, with the center of the jog wheel hollowed out and a clear scope/cross-hair/target lense in place of the center buttons, like those graphics pad mice.
Or perhaps, an A/V keyboard with a pod dial or two on the keyboard? Use it to manipulate sliders, faders, transitions, etc... hmmm...
I don't think so, but cool, and certainly useful.
Interesting direction Mr Tomahto, or is it Tomayto?
You know something? That idea's... intriguing. It seems a little difficult for me to conceptualize ATM, but properly arranged there could be a definite utility for certain 'artistic' (A/V, color manipulation, menu navigation) purposes. Cool, and different: Apple. I think, though, that Apple likes the one button (whole body/ambidexterous) click simplicity of their current design. One solution I could see is to mount a smaller jog dial array ahead of the main button/body of the pro-mouse, with the center of the jog wheel hollowed out and a clear scope/cross-hair/target lense in place of the center buttons, like those graphics pad mice.
Or perhaps, an A/V keyboard with a pod dial or two on the keyboard? Use it to manipulate sliders, faders, transitions, etc... hmmm...
I don't think so, but cool, and certainly useful.
Interesting direction Mr Tomahto, or is it Tomayto?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Does it also replace the mouse? What about OSX support? Apple's site implies yes, but contours implies 9.2.2 only ??? Tell us more, I've seen similar devices, aren't there a couple of other companies making similar products.
What do you use it for, and where do you find it the most usefull. Seems like a much more usefull thing than that griffin polished metal knob thingy.
Come to think of it someone could write a little app for an iPod to give it the similar functionality, no? Sure it wouldn't be as precise, but it does have a useful wheel and some handy buttons. Maybe it could also display some kind of graph to let you gage the relative rotation, just an extra point of reference to guide your manipulations. Whaddaya think?
<strong>Does it also replace the mouse? What about OSX support? Apple's site implies yes, but contours implies 9.2.2 only ??? Tell us more, I've seen similar devices, aren't there a couple of other companies making similar products.
What do you use it for, and where do you find it the most usefull. Seems like a much more usefull thing than that griffin polished metal knob thingy.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I have been using it in OSX for quite some time. Drivers work beautifully... they provide pre-sets for a lot of A/V apps like FCP and are starting to deliver presets for things like MayaÂ? and LightWaveÂ?.
The Jog/Shuttle wheel has a nice, beefy, sturdy.. "Pro" feel to it. I primarilly use it in FCP, but you can use it in QT MoviePlayer or any app that you want. The Control Panel will let you customize it for any app you want.
When I get the "Next Great Audio" app... I will use it with that also.
(IMHO) Worth the $$$ if you do a lot of non-linear editing in audio or video (or both). It cannot replace a mouse because it has no x-y axis controls, but you can use either the jog or shuttle controls to scroll in IE or the finder if you wish. All buttons are programmable, Shuttle control has 15 levels of sensitivity; 7-forward, 7-backward & stationary... the jog wheel has a smoothe 360-Degree rotation with a tactile "feel" of...
Wait... why am I typing this...? Let me just paste the blurb from the page:
[quote]Â*
Contour ShuttlePRO Information
The Contour ShuttlePRO Multimedia Controller provides natural and total control over digital editing software. As a jog & shuttle controller, the ShuttlePRO offers timeline accuracy that a computer mouse and arrow keys can't deliver, and its programmable buttons let users work faster and easier than ever before by placing total control at their fingertips.
Â*
Smooth action jog knob rotates 360 in any direction. Edit timelines with frame-by-frame precision, or edit your music with beat-by-beat accuracy.
Â*
Spring-loaded shuttle ring provides 7 variable speeds both forward and reverse for controlling your timelines, camcorder, decks and VTR's. Great for audio scrubbing!
Â*
13 programmable buttons put total control at your fingertips. Automate keyboard shortcuts and commands for any software, customize your ShuttlePRO settings to personal taste, and work faster through your projects.
Â*
Simple operating software runs in the background and makes the
ShuttlePRO available for use within any program. You can also configure or customize the ShuttlePRO for any application; program keyboard shortcuts, scrolling, modifier keys, and virtual keys with no hassles.
Â*
Pre-programmed for most software titles so you can start using it immediately. You can even customize these settings to your personal tastes. And the ShuttlePRO software lets you program your own settings at any time - making it easy to use the ShuttlePRO with any software.
Â*
Symmetrical low-profile ergonomic design is comfortable to operate with either hand for effortless, efficient and intuitive control of your work<hr></blockquote>
<strong>New cases will prolly be white instead of silver, both of the new machines, the eMac and the iMac are white. Yea the xSerevr is silver but its not something that normally sits on a desk. Hopefully the mobo update will include DDR memory and the new case design will not be as noisy. At least one Firewire port in front would be nice also.
As for the iPod, it needs a cradle that would allow it to be hooked up to your home stereo and a remote.</strong><hr></blockquote>
If the next PowerMac is white, I'm not buying, or I'll buy it (I need to replace that old G4 350) but paint it 100% matte black or matte camouflage. I hate that white. My iPod would look a lot better if it wasn't white.
Comments
-ARW
PS-I really think Apple made the mistake of taking the plunge in to the world of the G4 before they were ready for it. They should have squeezed a little more PowerMac life from the G3. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
[ 07-01-2002: Message edited by: ARW ]</p>
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PS-I really think Apple made the mistake of taking the plunge in to the world of the G4 before they were ready for it. They should have squeezed a little more PowerMac life from the G3. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
</strong><hr></blockquote>
Apparently Apple agrees with you and is determined not to repeat that error.
Will we see a PC iPod from Apple? Maybe, kinda. While I think Apple could certainly sell a whole lotta PC iPods, I'm not sure if they want to at this point. One thing to do with the iPod is push some of it's portable HDD storage function. Maybe Apple will supply a good Windows "Target disk mode type" function for the iPod so that it's easier to transfer files from your mac to various PC's or vice versa -- without neccessarily providing an MP3 functionality for Windows. It's all about how nice Macs and PC's get along, remember? I dunno.
Many want Apple to use the iPod to get PC users feet in the mac door. Give them a windows iPod and when they fall in love with it they might get tempted into buying a mac as their next computer. Expand their horizons a little bit at a time?
The only problem I see with that is Apple's meager 90 day warrantee. I've read a few disturbing reports about iPod's crapping out. Apple seems utterly unwilling to stand behind the iPod for more than 90 days. If said PC users ever bought an iPod (PC) for their first 'mac' experience and it fvcked up in a few months with no recourse but expensive repair or replacement, you can pretty much bet they won't ever consider a mac for anything ever again. While many Apple users are all to content to spread their cheeks wide for Steve's RDF(allus) most (almost) PC converts won't take kindly to getting reamed by Steve and co.
Untill they can sell the thing with a 1 year guarantee, they sould stick to their loyal fans.
MWNY will have new cases on the Power Macs.
The look will scream "Pro" ( no colors, probably white and Ti).
I'm no engineer, but it seems like making sexy plastic is cheaper and easier than a new chip.
As for the iPod, it needs a cradle that would allow it to be hooked up to your home stereo and a remote.
<strong>
Way back, perhaps before the Great AI Outage, didn't Dorsal mention a white enclosure. A cross between the Quicksilver case and the Cube. I thought I heard that the system components slide out, drawer-style, out the back.
Screed ...Or did I dream that??</strong><hr></blockquote>
You didn't.
Dorsal mentioned a sort of "Cube on its side" design with a slide-out drawer.
<strong>
not a remote like something for the TV, a remote like something that controlls the songs and volume on the headphone wire so you dont have to take the iPod outa the case to control it... think sony minidisc</strong><hr></blockquote>
Something like this?
you can't really tell, but its supposed to have a titanium tinge to it. I call it a TiPod. I know consumer products are all white now, but I'm just playing around...
<strong>
Something like this?
</strong><hr></blockquote>
Here's a crazt thought, what if for the new 2 button plus scroll wheel mouse everyone keeps clamoring for Apple instead of a plain ol scroll wheel included a "scroll jog dial" like the one on the iPod only smaller (kind o like 4 way button on a game pad). For size maybe a touch smaller than a quarter would do. Now you could scroll up and down and left and right without finding the scroll bars. After all, Macs are more likely to be used for Artistic Puroses rather than as glorified typewriters or WebTVs so shouldn't our input devices reflect that?
<strong>
Here's a crazt thought, what if for the new 2 button plus scroll wheel mouse everyone keeps clamoring for Apple instead of a plain ol scroll wheel included a "scroll jog dial" like the one on the iPod only smaller (kind o like 4 way button on a game pad). For size maybe a touch smaller than a quarter would do. Now you could scroll up and down and left and right without finding the scroll bars. After all, Macs are more likely to be used for Artistic Puroses rather than as glorified typewriters or WebTVs so shouldn't our input devices reflect that?</strong><hr></blockquote>
You know something? That idea's... intriguing. It seems a little difficult for me to conceptualize ATM, but properly arranged there could be a definite utility for certain 'artistic' (A/V, color manipulation, menu navigation) purposes. Cool, and different: Apple. I think, though, that Apple likes the one button (whole body/ambidexterous) click simplicity of their current design. One solution I could see is to mount a smaller jog dial array ahead of the main button/body of the pro-mouse, with the center of the jog wheel hollowed out and a clear scope/cross-hair/target lense in place of the center buttons, like those graphics pad mice.
Or perhaps, an A/V keyboard with a pod dial or two on the keyboard? Use it to manipulate sliders, faders, transitions, etc... hmmm...
I don't think so, but cool, and certainly useful.
Interesting direction Mr Tomahto, or is it Tomayto?
<strong>
You know something? That idea's... intriguing. It seems a little difficult for me to conceptualize ATM, but properly arranged there could be a definite utility for certain 'artistic' (A/V, color manipulation, menu navigation) purposes. Cool, and different: Apple. I think, though, that Apple likes the one button (whole body/ambidexterous) click simplicity of their current design. One solution I could see is to mount a smaller jog dial array ahead of the main button/body of the pro-mouse, with the center of the jog wheel hollowed out and a clear scope/cross-hair/target lense in place of the center buttons, like those graphics pad mice.
Or perhaps, an A/V keyboard with a pod dial or two on the keyboard? Use it to manipulate sliders, faders, transitions, etc... hmmm...
I don't think so, but cool, and certainly useful.
Interesting direction Mr Tomahto, or is it Tomayto?</strong><hr></blockquote>
<a href="http://www.contouravs.com/cav_shuttlepro_more_info.html"; target="_blank">ShuttlePro</a>
I got that for around $100 for my A/V needs... does a GREAT job.
[ 07-04-2002: Message edited by: Scott F. ]</p>
What do you use it for, and where do you find it the most usefull. Seems like a much more usefull thing than that griffin polished metal knob thingy.
<strong>Does it also replace the mouse? What about OSX support? Apple's site implies yes, but contours implies 9.2.2 only ??? Tell us more, I've seen similar devices, aren't there a couple of other companies making similar products.
What do you use it for, and where do you find it the most usefull. Seems like a much more usefull thing than that griffin polished metal knob thingy.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I have been using it in OSX for quite some time. Drivers work beautifully... they provide pre-sets for a lot of A/V apps like FCP and are starting to deliver presets for things like MayaÂ? and LightWaveÂ?.
The Jog/Shuttle wheel has a nice, beefy, sturdy.. "Pro" feel to it. I primarilly use it in FCP, but you can use it in QT MoviePlayer or any app that you want. The Control Panel will let you customize it for any app you want.
When I get the "Next Great Audio" app... I will use it with that also.
(IMHO) Worth the $$$ if you do a lot of non-linear editing in audio or video (or both). It cannot replace a mouse because it has no x-y axis controls, but you can use either the jog or shuttle controls to scroll in IE or the finder if you wish. All buttons are programmable, Shuttle control has 15 levels of sensitivity; 7-forward, 7-backward & stationary... the jog wheel has a smoothe 360-Degree rotation with a tactile "feel" of...
Wait... why am I typing this...? Let me just paste the blurb from the page:
[quote]Â*
Contour ShuttlePRO Information
The Contour ShuttlePRO Multimedia Controller provides natural and total control over digital editing software. As a jog & shuttle controller, the ShuttlePRO offers timeline accuracy that a computer mouse and arrow keys can't deliver, and its programmable buttons let users work faster and easier than ever before by placing total control at their fingertips.
Â*
Smooth action jog knob rotates 360 in any direction. Edit timelines with frame-by-frame precision, or edit your music with beat-by-beat accuracy.
Â*
Spring-loaded shuttle ring provides 7 variable speeds both forward and reverse for controlling your timelines, camcorder, decks and VTR's. Great for audio scrubbing!
Â*
13 programmable buttons put total control at your fingertips. Automate keyboard shortcuts and commands for any software, customize your ShuttlePRO settings to personal taste, and work faster through your projects.
Â*
Simple operating software runs in the background and makes the
ShuttlePRO available for use within any program. You can also configure or customize the ShuttlePRO for any application; program keyboard shortcuts, scrolling, modifier keys, and virtual keys with no hassles.
Â*
Pre-programmed for most software titles so you can start using it immediately. You can even customize these settings to your personal tastes. And the ShuttlePRO software lets you program your own settings at any time - making it easy to use the ShuttlePRO with any software.
Â*
Symmetrical low-profile ergonomic design is comfortable to operate with either hand for effortless, efficient and intuitive control of your work<hr></blockquote>
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<strong>New cases will prolly be white instead of silver, both of the new machines, the eMac and the iMac are white. Yea the xSerevr is silver but its not something that normally sits on a desk. Hopefully the mobo update will include DDR memory and the new case design will not be as noisy. At least one Firewire port in front would be nice also.
As for the iPod, it needs a cradle that would allow it to be hooked up to your home stereo and a remote.</strong><hr></blockquote>
If the next PowerMac is white, I'm not buying, or I'll buy it (I need to replace that old G4 350) but paint it 100% matte black or matte camouflage. I hate that white. My iPod would look a lot better if it wasn't white.