ExxonMobil launches Apple Pay at the pump at 6,000 stations, only through in-app purchase

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  • Reply 21 of 62
    calicali Posts: 3,494member
    Apple nees to regulate this sh**. Tap to pay should be required for all brick and mortar stores/terminals. An optional app is ok.

    Although not the way I want to pay, it's a start. Good thing is I've started to see signs go up at places advertising that they accept Apple/Android Pay. 

    I don't like those at all. This is why I wanted Apple to subsidize terminals. Seeing the droid next to Apple Pay makes it look like it's "just as good". I don't wanna see the copycat anywhere near the thing, it was Apple who opened the door to have both logos on terminals and if they start adding other logos like SammyPay these signs and terminals are gonna look cluttered and ugly when it should only be Apple on there. No piggyback rides for the losers who mock Apple.
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  • Reply 22 of 62
    LoneStar88lonestar88 Posts: 325member

    rocketman said:
    I use Apple products exclusively for personal and mobile computing, but I won't pay more for gas just so I can use ApplePay and benefit an oil company.
    Part of the merchant/Apple Apple Pay contract stipulates that the customer doesn't pay for Apple Pay services. Do your homework before you complain.
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  • Reply 23 of 62
    rob53rob53 Posts: 3,351member
    Giving 30% to Apple must have cost less than installing NFC readers, however that decision also cuts them out of all the other NFC payment devices, like contactless credit cards themselves. Might seem strange to most but they must have run the numbers.
    No it doesn't.

    In the app, you can select payment methods other than Apple Pay.

    Look before you "think".
    Apple doesn't charge anyone 30% for using ApplePay. They charge 30% for the app, which in this case is free. Apple charges the credit card companies a very small amount.  iTunes doesn't list this app as having in-app purchases so it's simply a front-end (messy) payment system that includes the ability to use ApplePay with TouchID. To get a better idea how it works, look at their page on iTunes.

    I don't know when this app was released but it doesn't have any reviews. I don't shop at Exxon Mobil and won't ever be using one of these MCX-type QR-code purchasing systems.
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  • Reply 24 of 62
    eightzeroeightzero Posts: 3,182member
    Nope.

    Appears to have been designed by Captain Hazelwood during another bender. 
    bancho
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  • Reply 25 of 62
    I don't go to Exxon so it doesn't affect me, but I still wouldn't use it. Having to open an app and find your station, then type in your pump is very messy. It should work like it does at every other store that has Apple Pay, just tap and pay. This sounds more like Current C than Apple Pay
    edited March 2016
    palominelostkiwi
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  • Reply 26 of 62
    boltsfan17boltsfan17 Posts: 2,294member

    Cash only.
    Dinosaur.
    A dinosaur who saves money over credit card users at the pump. 
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  • Reply 27 of 62
    sirlance99sirlance99 Posts: 1,301member
    icoco3 said:
    Part of using ApplePay was the anonymity of the payment.  Now, they get to track who made the payment.


    And if you owned a major retail store you'd want the same tracking features as well. As an owner, you'd want as much information as you could get to stay competitive and keep growing the business. No information, the business will eventually be left behind and die. Deal with it. Obviously you don't know how to run a business and think it's easy. 
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  • Reply 28 of 62
    sirlance99sirlance99 Posts: 1,301member
    cali said:
    Apple nees to regulate this sh**. Tap to pay should be required for all brick and mortar stores/terminals. An optional app is ok.

    Although not the way I want to pay, it's a start. Good thing is I've started to see signs go up at places advertising that they accept Apple/Android Pay. 

    I don't like those at all. This is why I wanted Apple to subsidize terminals. Seeing the droid next to Apple Pay makes it look like it's "just as good". I don't wanna see the copycat anywhere near the thing, it was Apple who opened the door to have both logos on terminals and if they start adding other logos like SammyPay these signs and terminals are gonna look cluttered and ugly when it should only be Apple on there. No piggyback rides for the losers who mock Apple.
    What did you expect? That Apple Pay would be all by itself. Just like you see Visa, Master Card, Discover and Amex logos you'll see all the available options for NFC payments. It's NOT exclusive to Apple since the actual NFC payments process is standardized and used the same for all. 
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  • Reply 29 of 62

    Dinosaur.
    A dinosaur who saves money over credit card users at the pump. 
    With so many credit cards offering rewards and cash back I doubt you're really saving all that much. To each his own though. For me it's not worth my time to run an errand on top of another errand. Plus I go to Costco whom only accepts credit cards and already has the lowest prices. 
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  • Reply 30 of 62
    icoco3icoco3 Posts: 1,474member
    Giving 30% to Apple must have cost less than installing NFC readers, however that decision also cuts them out of all the other NFC payment devices, like contactless credit cards themselves. Might seem strange to most but they must have run the numbers.
    Gas is a physical product and not subject to the 30% free for "IAP".  Apple does get a small cut of the transaction though and the processing fees are less than traditional card swipes for merchants due to the more secure nature of the transaction.
    edited March 2016
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  • Reply 31 of 62
    onlyhopeonlyhope Posts: 39member
    linkman said:
    ExxonMobil's support, however, is not quite the seamless tap-to-pay support for Apple Pay that most consumers identify with. By relying on in-app purchases, the Speedpass+ app allows mobile payments without the need to install NFC reading contactless payment terminals at the pump.
    But I thought ExxonMobil already had NFC in their pumps. Can someone explain?

    https://www.speedpass.com/how-speedpass-works
    E-M's Speedpass device is a proprietary NFC implementation. Again, this enables E-M to maintain your personal data connected to their products.
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  • Reply 32 of 62
    icoco3icoco3 Posts: 1,474member
    icoco3 said:
    Part of using ApplePay was the anonymity of the payment.  Now, they get to track who made the payment.


    And if you owned a major retail store you'd want the same tracking features as well. As an owner, you'd want as much information as you could get to stay competitive and keep growing the business. No information, the business will eventually be left behind and die. Deal with it. Obviously you don't know how to run a business and think it's easy. 
    Quite a hostile comment.  Stick to the issue and don't lower yourself to personal attacks.
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  • Reply 33 of 62
    nolamacguynolamacguy Posts: 4,758member

    palomine said:
    FAIL.  I am not going to download an app for every place I shop at!
    Especially for gas. Stupid Exxon.
    I saw the headline and thought hey I could get my gas from them and use Apple Pay--then I saw the app requirement, and that is not reasonable. 

    Wrong.

    This is a PASS (as in Speedpass!). Looks simple and elegant to me.
    who do you work for?
    williamlondonbanchoAnilostkiwi
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  • Reply 34 of 62

    rocketman said:
    I use Apple products exclusively for personal and mobile computing, but I won't pay more for gas just so I can use ApplePay and benefit an oil company.
    Part of the merchant/Apple Apple Pay contract stipulates that the customer doesn't pay for Apple Pay services. Do your homework before you complain.
    You misunderstood LoneStar88. In general, Exxon charges more for the various grades of gas and diesel than other operators, especially in Texas. Since Exxon now has an in-app capability for Apple Pay, I'm not going to pay more to fill up my tank just so I can use Apple Pay to complete the transaction. Also, I won't use Apple Pay just so Exxon can benefit more than another operator who charges 3, 5, or 10 cents less per gallon.
    edited March 2016
    Ani
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  • Reply 35 of 62
    LoneStar88lonestar88 Posts: 325member
    rocketman said:

    Part of the merchant/Apple Apple Pay contract stipulates that the customer doesn't pay for Apple Pay services. Do your homework before you complain.
    You misunderstood LoneStar88. In general, Exxon charges more for the various grades of gas and diesel than other operators, especially in Texas. Since Exxon now has an in-app capability for Apple Pay, I'm not going to pay more to fill up my tank just so I can use Apple Pay to complete the transaction. Also, I won't use Apple Pay just so Exxon can benefit more than another operator who charges 3, 5, or 10 cents less per gallon.
    Too bad. Maybe you should move.

    Admittedly disrelated: I had a customer who moved to Texas from Cape Cod for the better phone rates.

    I'll compare prices here in Florida, too. But if they're ballpark, I might go to E/M for the added security and peace of mind Apple Pay affords.
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  • Reply 36 of 62
    LoneStar88lonestar88 Posts: 325member


    Wrong.

    This is a PASS (as in Speedpass!). Looks simple and elegant to me.
    who do you work for?
    I work for myself. I can recognize a good thing. Can you? Doubt it.
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  • Reply 37 of 62
    onlyhopeonlyhope Posts: 39member
    rocketman said:

    Part of the merchant/Apple Apple Pay contract stipulates that the customer doesn't pay for Apple Pay services. Do your homework before you complain.
    You misunderstood LoneStar88. In general, Exxon charges more for the various grades of gas and diesel than other operators, especially in Texas. Since Exxon now has an in-app capability for Apple Pay, I'm not going to pay more to fill up my tank just so I can use Apple Pay to complete the transaction. Also, I won't use Apple Pay just so Exxon can benefit more than another operator who charges 3, 5, or 10 cents less per gallon.
    Maybe that is the case in Texas but I travel a lot and I haven't found that to be the case elsewhere. The GasBuddy App will provide the compares.
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  • Reply 38 of 62
    LoneStar88lonestar88 Posts: 325member

    icoco3 said:
    And if you owned a major retail store you'd want the same tracking features as well. As an owner, you'd want as much information as you could get to stay competitive and keep growing the business. No information, the business will eventually be left behind and die. Deal with it. Obviously you don't know how to run a business and think it's easy. 
    Quite a hostile comment.  Stick to the issue and don't lower yourself to personal attacks.
    Not hostile at all. Call it pragmatic.

    You obviously are clueless about business sense.
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  • Reply 39 of 62
    cnocbuicnocbui Posts: 3,613member
    Wait, I thought we were *not* supposed to be waving around a phone at gas pumps.
    It's not 1981 anymore.
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  • Reply 40 of 62
    LoneStar88lonestar88 Posts: 325member

    I don't go to Exxon so it doesn't affect me, but I still wouldn't use it. Having to open an app and find your station, then type in your pump is very messy. It should work like it does at every other store that has Apple Pay, just tap and pay. This sounds more like Current C than Apple Pay
    So what's to say it isn't an affordable and quick stopgap measure with substantial PR value in that E/M is one of the first to implement Apple Pay at all?

    Short term benefits are: more customers wanting to use Apple Pay; they're at the relative forefront of Apple Pay merchants; they get valuable experience with Apple Pay to either pursue the NFC equipment installation, or to see that it may very well not be viable.

    I think it's smart on their part.
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