California Assembly considers bill to mandate encryption backdoors

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  • Reply 61 of 72
    This is an unprovoked war started by the state of California against Silicon Valley. Maybe the entire Silicon Valley should relocate. It will be the state's loss. Stupid.
    edited March 2016 SpamSandwich
  • Reply 62 of 72
    pigybank said:
    Apple should threaten to move all operations out of California and to cease sale of all Apple products within the state. Other large tech companies should follow a similar lead. 
    Or in CA they can sell you a totally unencrypted phone with all the back doors mandated by state law and deliver it with a coupon code to download a free piece of third party software from Apple Ireland that patches the holes. 
    edited March 2016
  • Reply 63 of 72
    stevehsteveh Posts: 480member
    What's so misleading is this bill is being introduced as human trafficking legislation. This is what Assembly Member Jim Cooper said of this bill:

     “Full-disk encrypted operating systems provide criminals an invaluable tool to prey on women, children, and threaten our freedoms while making the legal process of judicial court orders, useless.” 
    "It's for the chiiiiiiilllllldreeeennnn!"
  • Reply 64 of 72
    stevehsteveh Posts: 480member
    They're all Democrats, of course, and all are of the belief that government would never, ever, ever misuse private information. Unless the person of interest is a political opponent, particularly a Rethuglican, in which case it's all groovy.
    No, a few of them [California legislators] are Republicans, too.

    All of the ones on the wrong side of this issue are, however, unregenerate statists.
    SpamSandwich
  • Reply 65 of 72
    linkmanlinkman Posts: 1,044member
    freerange said:
    Feinstein - what an idiot. Here you are representing the heart and soul of technology in Silicon Valley and you pull a moronic stunt like this. Its time for you to go!!!!!
    That time came several decades ago.
  • Reply 66 of 72
    misamisa Posts: 827member
    AppleInsider said:
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    Similar legislation has been proposed in New York by Assembly Members Matthew Titone and Walter T. Mosley, while U.S. Senators Diane Feinstein and Richard Burr are expected to introduce a comparable measure at the federal level soon.

    "It's just that I have a basic fundamental belief this is very important and that no American company should be above the law," Feinstein said regarding her proposal.

    The level of support for these measures in their various chambers remains unclear, and neither the California nor New York bill has yet made it out of committee. Meanwhile, Apple and the FBI continue to spar through the media and the bureau has appealed to New York courts for the reversal of a decision that went in Apple's favor.
    This just shows how out of touch politicians are when they aren't being bribed by the industries for tax breaks.

    There's two loop holes introduced by doing this:
    a) Apple moves the "OS Development" outside of California, or even outside of the US (eg to Canada, or Sealand or maybe Apple will build a moonbase, who knows) , like the actual OS development will continue to be done in California, but the signing will be done somewhere where the keys are out of reach.
    b) Apple says "bite me" and "open-sources" the entire toolchain and sources necessary to build iOS's kernel/firmware, thus allowing Mac developers to recompile iOS without the backdoors. This would be the nuclear option, and have the consequences of enabling jailbreaking/piracy. Of course they would have to do this with OS X as well, otherwise the backdoors will just get installed into OS X.

    The license itself for iOS can still say "only for Apple-branded devices" and thus still theoretically be only for Apple, but Apple doesn't have to open source all of iOS, all the stock apps that aren't part of iCloud functionality wouldn't need to be part of it.


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  • Reply 67 of 72
    jbdragonjbdragon Posts: 2,311member
    lmagoo said:
    This easily proves that our politicians...ESPECIALLY in California....are dumber than a pile of bricks!! And good o'l Feinstein is at the head of the class !!!!!
    I can't believe this criminal is still in office. Just because there's a D in front of Diane Feinstein name you can't get rid of her!!! As clueless as ever!!!
  • Reply 68 of 72
    linkmanlinkman Posts: 1,044member
    jbdragon said:
    lmagoo said:
    This easily proves that our politicians...ESPECIALLY in California....are dumber than a pile of bricks!! And good o'l Feinstein is at the head of the class !!!!!
    I can't believe this criminal is still in office. Just because there's a D in front of Diane Feinstein name you can't get rid of her!!! As clueless as ever!!!
    And what perfect storm occurred that put her and Boxer in the senate at the same time?
    SpamSandwich
  • Reply 69 of 72
    Feinstein is an embarrassment to California.

    That said, they fully deserve her and her cr4p.
    You should read the article.  Feinstein is a United States Senator, not a California Senator.  So everyone in the U.S. gets to enjoy her BS.
  • Reply 70 of 72
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    Tim, please halt all work on the new Apple headquarters and start looking for an island nation Apple can buy outright. Then pull up stakes from the US and move there. I'm asking as a shareholder.
  • Reply 71 of 72
    No one is above the Law - that includes the FBI, the USA Senate and other law agencies trying to invoke powers that they don't yet have! Any firm. In the USA or elsewhere is entitled to keep private and secret an Mobile Cell Phone or othe communication device security from prying eyes and Law Agencies (as their members are still prone to use such knowledge for their own benefit rather than for the greater good of the USA Community - who make up the laws of that country (USA))!
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