Anger for sure, but it is not really that simple. Trump followers, by in large are, middle aged, middle class, disenfranchised, unemployed or under employed, white males and their socio-economic status is primarily a result of greedy corporations, wall street bankers and warmongers, who sent their working class jobs to China, foreclosed on their homes and tanked the economy with a few wars. It really had nothing to do with Obama.
But wasn't the great Obama supposed to fix all that? That was the promise. Oops.
volcan said:I just wonder if the Trump supporters are really going to show up at the polls in November.
This question was already asked last summer when Trump declared his candidacy, and has clearly been answered. Right now, the Dems should be far more concerned about the same question concerning the Bernie supporters that are refusing to vote for Hillary in November.
As long as most of the Sanders supports abstain and don't vote for Trump, Clinton should be in good shape. If they do vote for Trump then they will prove themselves to simply be anarchists. Even so, there is a silent voting majority that is not in the Sanders or Trump camp and are not represented in the very narrow polls that are being used to get everyone fired up over Trump. The country has moved too far to the left to elect a republican president, even if it was a very moderate republican, which Trump certainly isn't.
I saw a brief interview of Clinton on CNN today. She managed to answer all the questions respectfully, didn't offend anyone and gave valid reasoning for her positions. Regardless of what you think about her, this is something Trump hasn't managed to do in his entire professional life. I think the argument that Trump is somehow a political genius that posses a magic ability to solve the issues once elected that he is unable to articulate while campaigning because he prefers to provide offensive soundbites instead, is asinine. Much of Trump's "plan" comes from supporters filling in the gaps of his statements with far stretching possibilities in an attempt to legitimize and vindicate his craziness, in an almost an apologetic fashion. None of it is anything he offered up, he just keep doubling down on offensive stupidity and letting his supporters do the work in justifying it.
what is with you and your obsession with bad-mouthing mentally ill people?
What's with others and apologizing for them? I'm sick of the bullshit in society that wants to pretend they're sane. So I speak out against it. That's all.
if they made a federal law to end foreign aid, they would likely have to specify various conditions, so it would be a re-enacted law.
Traditionally, but I'd prefer a different approach. Do a 21st amendment-style. Then delete, rip up, otherwise destroy/ignore the garbage on the books. If everything we've listed thus far is done, the government is for sure smaller, as it has less power over the people and less power of projection.
what is with you and your obsession with bad-mouthing mentally ill people?
What's with others and apologizing for them? I'm sick of the bullshit in society that wants to pretend they're sane. So I speak out against it. That's all.
No no no, mentally ill people are not at all like neurotypicals, but that doesn't mean you have to treat them like rubbish
tallest skil said . If everything we've listed thus far is done, the government is for sure smaller, as it has less power over the people and less power of projection.
Republicans keep saying they want smalller government but where does it stop? They only want to cut spending on social services like social security, education, infrastructure, healthcare but in actuality they simply want to divert that spending to the military.
Republicans keep reminding us how much they love America, yet they dislike LGBT, minorities, immigrants, unions, teachers, the poor, etc. it seems in reality Republicans actually hate America.
They are the ones who want to control and exert power over the people.
Republicans keep saying they want smalller government but where does it stop?
The federal government’s Constitutional mandate.
They only want to cut spending on social services like social security, education, infrastructure, healthcare but in actuality they simply want to divert that spending to the military.
Those are neocons. RINOs. Not conservatives.
it seems in reality Republicans actually hate America.
Nah. Pithiness doesn’t work when the audience knows about the topic.
They are the ones who want to control and exert power over the people.
Funny, I've seen exactly ZERO politicians who understand this encryption/back door debate. What's worse was for Obama to goto SXSW and act all "in" with the tech crowd only to say something stupid like, you can't be "absolutists". Uh, that's the whole point of encryption and security... duh.
To give credit to Trump, Cook has mentioned he would love to make more and more things in the US, maybe with Trump reversing corporate inversions once he's POTUS, more US companies will be incentivized to build at home.
Hmm, maybe not such an outlandish idea (to build at home) after all.
Funny, I've seen exactly ZERO politicians who understand this encryption/back door debate. What's worse was for Obama to goto SXSW and act all "in" with the tech crowd only to say something stupid like, you can't be "absolutists". Uh, that's the whole point of encryption and security... duh.
To give credit to Trump, Cook has mentioned he would love to make more and more things in the US, maybe with Trump reversing corporate inversions once he's POTUS, more US companies will be incentivized to build at home.
Hmm, maybe not such an outlandish idea (to build at home) after all.
You lost me at the crap you just spouted at the end of your god damn sentence: 95% of Trump's words are lies so says Pulitzer winning site Politififact that's the god damn guy your hitching your ride too.
He's a guy who actually has less money than if he'd fracking heritage into bonds, gone bankrupt four times losing billions for his creditors and putting thousands of out the street and who says he's never settled (yet has been sued countless times and he's also settled countless times) and he's a guy going to go on trial for fraud.
BTW, those little bonds that would actually have made him rich (instead of a massively leveraged windbag who says his net worth depends on his state of mind!), are the ones your orange horror wants to default on (or is it selective default, you know only the foreign owned debt... (sic). Good luck refinancing the rest of the debt or getting new loans at a decent interest rate after that. As for the US dollars going into the toilet because of that and the US after that having to buy imports like oil in Euros or Pounds, well Trumpie boy doesn't know about those things. Lets invent him some magic policy to take care of that disaster.
foggyhill said: 95% of Trump's words are lies so says Pulitzer winning site Politififact
I already proved this wrong. Stop repeating lies and take your appeals to “authority” elsewhere.
He's a guy who actually has less money than if he'd fracking heritage into bonds
So you’d prefer someone who sat on his ass and did nothing for his wealth to someone who worked for it? Are you fucking kidding me? You’re literally being this open about what marxists want?
gone bankrupt four times
And not gone bankrupt hundreds of times, as you were shown earlier.
he's a guy going to go on trial for fraud.
And who will win, as he has already shown the evidence that the other side is nothing but liars.
Lets invent him some magic policy to take care of that disaster.
what is with you and your obsession with bad-mouthing mentally ill people?
What's with others and apologizing for them? I'm sick of the bullshit in society that wants to pretend they're sane. So I speak out against it. That's all.
Depressed people are insane? My son has Aspergers and is far saner than you are.
I sadly understand why people feel compelled to vote for a phony like Mr Trump. They are fed up with the political inbreeding that's been taking place in Washington for decades on both sides of the aisle. They want to stop the self serving, open ended, unchecked system that has diminished the credibility and integrity of the country, drained its resources, and turned its citizenry against one another. When people in leadership roles are dishonest and have no respect for the people they serve the feeling becomes mutual.
The US has political cancer. Trump is, in the minds of many, the chemotherapy that can cure the cancer. But chemotherapy is poison and it may also kill the patient. This kind of treatment program has never been attempted before and we don't really know what the outcome will be. Unfortunately, the other side's vision of a cure looks like it will only grow the disease.
We we are facing a horrible decision this year. I hope we see another choice emerge so we can get a second opinion and restore hope for our future. The current US political system is a Total Failure and it is starting to infect adjacent systems, most notably the US Supreme Court. If it spreads to the financial sector and escapes the US borders the future prospects of continuing the way of life that took hundreds of years to establish will be in peril. Trump is an idiot, but Trump is not the problem.
Depression is not a mental illness. And how are you even asking that question? If you believe it’s a mental illness, then you already believe they’re insane. WHAT DO YOU THINK ‘MENTAL ILLNESS’ MEANS?!
My son has Aspergers and is far saner than you are.
Virtually nothing you say is correct, so I don’t even need to consider that an insult.
Depression is not a mental illness. And how are you even asking that question? If you believe it’s a mental illness, then you already believe they’re insane. WHAT DO YOU THINK ‘MENTAL ILLNESS’ MEANS?
ok first of all depression is a mental illness, so you're 100% wrong about that. here's an excerpt from the CDC website (bolded for emphasis) if you don't believe me:
"Mental illnesses refer to disorders generally characterized by dysregulation of mood, thought, and/or behavior, as recognized by the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, 4th edition, of the American Psychiatric Association (DSM-IV). Mood disorders are among the most pervasive of all mental disorders and include major depression, in which the individual commonly reports feeling, for a time period of two weeks or more, sad or blue, uninterested in things previously of interest, psychomotor retardation or agitation, and increased or decreased appetite since the depressive episode ensued."
and secondly "insane" is a term that many people use as a blanket statement for being mentally ill, which is wholly inaccurate. the classical definition for the word is madness or delusion and it was previously used to categorize people with a form of psychosis, such as schizophrenia, which is a disorder resulting in delusions and/or hallucinations and is not connected with other disorders such as depression or anxiety. so please keep your harmful inaccurate and stigmatising opinions to yourself
I am not a US Citizen and wouldn't wish to defend Trump, HOWEVER.. i find it even more admirable that Trump dared to criticise a company he had a stake.
Trump did whatever necessary to win votes, he ain't care shit! He's truly, utterly hypocritical!
Cute cartoon but in reality when he slipped on the banana peel he lost all that money plus a few billion more.
According to a well-known anecdote, one day when he was $1 billion in debt, Trump pointed out a homeless man to his daughter and said, "See that bum? He has a billion dollars more than me."
If he ever reveals his tax returns we will probably see that the reason he doesn't pay any taxes is because he is still heavily in debt.
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I saw a brief interview of Clinton on CNN today. She managed to answer all the questions respectfully, didn't offend anyone and gave valid reasoning for her positions. Regardless of what you think about her, this is something Trump hasn't managed to do in his entire professional life. I think the argument that Trump is somehow a political genius that posses a magic ability to solve the issues once elected that he is unable to articulate while campaigning because he prefers to provide offensive soundbites instead, is asinine. Much of Trump's "plan" comes from supporters filling in the gaps of his statements with far stretching possibilities in an attempt to legitimize and vindicate his craziness, in an almost an apologetic fashion. None of it is anything he offered up, he just keep doubling down on offensive stupidity and letting his supporters do the work in justifying it.
If I'm wrong, tell me. Traditionally, but I'd prefer a different approach. Do a 21st amendment-style. Then delete, rip up, otherwise destroy/ignore the garbage on the books. If everything we've listed thus far is done, the government is for sure smaller, as it has less power over the people and less power of projection.
Republicans keep reminding us how much they love America, yet they dislike LGBT, minorities, immigrants, unions, teachers, the poor, etc. it seems in reality Republicans actually hate America.
They are the ones who want to control and exert power over the people.
Those are neocons. RINOs. Not conservatives.
Nah. Pithiness doesn’t work when the audience knows about the topic.
Nope.
He's a guy who actually has less money than if he'd fracking heritage into bonds, gone bankrupt four times losing billions for his creditors and putting thousands of out the street and who says he's never settled (yet has been sued countless times and he's also settled countless times) and he's a guy going to go on trial for fraud.
BTW, those little bonds that would actually have made him rich (instead of a massively leveraged windbag who says his net worth depends on his state of mind!), are the ones your orange horror wants to default on (or is it selective default, you know only the foreign owned debt... (sic). Good luck refinancing the rest of the debt or getting new loans at a decent interest rate after that. As for the US dollars going into the toilet because of that and the US after that having to buy imports like oil in Euros or Pounds, well Trumpie boy doesn't know about those things. Lets invent him some magic policy to take care of that disaster.
So you’d prefer someone who sat on his ass and did nothing for his wealth to someone who worked for it? Are you fucking kidding me? You’re literally being this open about what marxists want?
And not gone bankrupt hundreds of times, as you were shown earlier.
And who will win, as he has already shown the evidence that the other side is nothing but liars.
The US has political cancer. Trump is, in the minds of many, the chemotherapy that can cure the cancer. But chemotherapy is poison and it may also kill the patient. This kind of treatment program has never been attempted before and we don't really know what the outcome will be. Unfortunately, the other side's vision of a cure looks like it will only grow the disease.
We we are facing a horrible decision this year. I hope we see another choice emerge so we can get a second opinion and restore hope for our future. The current US political system is a Total Failure and it is starting to infect adjacent systems, most notably the US Supreme Court. If it spreads to the financial sector and escapes the US borders the future prospects of continuing the way of life that took hundreds of years to establish will be in peril. Trump is an idiot, but Trump is not the problem.
Virtually nothing you say is correct, so I don’t even need to consider that an insult.
"Mental illnesses refer to disorders generally characterized by dysregulation of mood, thought, and/or behavior, as recognized by the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, 4th edition, of the American Psychiatric Association (DSM-IV). Mood disorders are among the most pervasive of all mental disorders and include major depression, in which the individual commonly reports feeling, for a time period of two weeks or more, sad or blue, uninterested in things previously of interest, psychomotor retardation or agitation, and increased or decreased appetite since the depressive episode ensued."
and secondly "insane" is a term that many people use as a blanket statement for being mentally ill, which is wholly inaccurate. the classical definition for the word is madness or delusion and it was previously used to categorize people with a form of psychosis, such as schizophrenia, which is a disorder resulting in delusions and/or hallucinations and is not connected with other disorders such as depression or anxiety. so please keep your harmful inaccurate and stigmatising opinions to yourself
Nah, gonna keep telling the truth.
that has literally no relevance
I literally just proved to you that what you're saying is false
If he ever reveals his tax returns we will probably see that the reason he doesn't pay any taxes is because he is still heavily in debt.