Remeber that the original poster asked whether it's piracy, not whether it's "OK" or "not a problem" or whatever else. It is piracy. Having said that, I ordered my update but I'd accept a copy right now if I could get it by "some other means." But, I'd know full well I was pirating it. I just wouldn't feel bad about it.</strong><hr></blockquote>
But why is it piracy? That was really the point of my original post. I've ordered it, it's all but in the mail now, so don't I have a right to use it now?
torifile this should answer the obvious question you have submitted:
[quote] From The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing (09 FEB 02):
software theft
<legal> The unauthorised duplication and/or use of computer software. This usually means unauthorised copying, either by individuals for use by themselves or their friends or, less commonly, by companies who then sell the illegal copies to users. Many kinds of software protection have been invented to try to reduce software theft but, with sufficient effort it is always possible to bypass or "crack" the protection, and software protection is often annoying for legitimate users.
Software theft was estimated for 1994 to have cost $15 billion in worldwide lost revenues to software publishers. It is a serious offence under the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988, which states that "The owner of the copyright has the exclusive right to copy the work.".
It is illegal to:
1. Copy or distribute software or its documentation without the permission or licence of the copyright owner.
2. Run purchased software on two or morecomputers simultaneously unless the licence specifically allows it. 3. Knowingly or unknowingly allow, encourage or
pressure employees to make or use illegal copies sources within the organisation.
4. Infringe laws against unauthorised software copying because a superior, colleague or friend compels or requests it.
5. Loan software in order thata copy be made of it.
Software theft should be reported to the Federation Against Software Theft (FAST).
<strong>But why is it piracy?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Because the law says so. Copyright law is complex; it's not a one paragraph deal. However, the basic idea is that, when somebody creates a "work" they hold the sole right to copy the work - the copyrights. If you don't have this right, you may not copy the work. Of course, a copyright holder may authorize others to make copies - that's part of their rights; transfer, etc.
The intent of copyright law is for the betterment of society (like patent law). It allows creative individuals to make money creating works; this gets us more, higher-quality (hopefully) works. If there was no copyright law, you couldn't make a living creating the things that copyright protects.
Because copyright law was conceived with the idea of imrpoving society (rather than simply making money for creators), all sorts of exceptions were added: fair use, time limits, backups, etc., etc. Basically, trying to balance the rights of the copyright holder with the needs of the public.
[quote]<strong>That was really the point of my original post. I've ordered it, it's all but in the mail now, so don't I have a right to use it now?</strong><hr></blockquote>
You do not. There is nothing in copyright law that gives you this right and Apple (the holder), I'm sure, isn't going to give you the right until the (authorized) copy they send to you arrives at your door (and you accept the EULA, too, probably <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" /> ).
Seriously, just pirate it. You're not morally wrong for doing it, you're just breaking the law. You're probably breaking laws every day without even knowing it. There are so many of them and they're all so convoluted, it's impossible not to break laws. So go for it (I would) - as long as you don't decide to cancel your order after you pirate it. That would be morally wrong.
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Remeber that the original poster asked whether it's piracy, not whether it's "OK" or "not a problem" or whatever else. It is piracy. Having said that, I ordered my update but I'd accept a copy right now if I could get it by "some other means." But, I'd know full well I was pirating it. I just wouldn't feel bad about it.</strong><hr></blockquote>
But why is it piracy? That was really the point of my original post. I've ordered it, it's all but in the mail now, so don't I have a right to use it now?
<strong>There is nothing wrong with pirating. Besides, I don't think you are since you paid for a copy.
Tiger,
How old are you??? Do you understand the law???
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Tiger,
How old are you??? Do you understand the law???
torifile this should answer the obvious question you have submitted:
[quote] From The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing (09 FEB 02):
software theft
<legal> The unauthorised duplication and/or use of computer software. This usually means unauthorised copying, either by individuals for use by themselves or their friends or, less commonly, by companies who then sell the illegal copies to users. Many kinds of software protection have been invented to try to reduce software theft but, with sufficient effort it is always possible to bypass or "crack" the protection, and software protection is often annoying for legitimate users.
Software theft was estimated for 1994 to have cost $15 billion in worldwide lost revenues to software publishers. It is a serious offence under the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988, which states that "The owner of the copyright has the exclusive right to copy the work.".
It is illegal to:
1. Copy or distribute software or its documentation without the permission or licence of the copyright owner.
2. Run purchased software on two or morecomputers simultaneously unless the licence specifically allows it. 3. Knowingly or unknowingly allow, encourage or
pressure employees to make or use illegal copies sources within the organisation.
4. Infringe laws against unauthorised software copying because a superior, colleague or friend compels or requests it.
5. Loan software in order thata copy be made of it.
Software theft should be reported to the Federation Against Software Theft (FAST).
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<strong>But why is it piracy?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Because the law says so. Copyright law is complex; it's not a one paragraph deal. However, the basic idea is that, when somebody creates a "work" they hold the sole right to copy the work - the copyrights. If you don't have this right, you may not copy the work. Of course, a copyright holder may authorize others to make copies - that's part of their rights; transfer, etc.
The intent of copyright law is for the betterment of society (like patent law). It allows creative individuals to make money creating works; this gets us more, higher-quality (hopefully) works. If there was no copyright law, you couldn't make a living creating the things that copyright protects.
Because copyright law was conceived with the idea of imrpoving society (rather than simply making money for creators), all sorts of exceptions were added: fair use, time limits, backups, etc., etc. Basically, trying to balance the rights of the copyright holder with the needs of the public.
[quote]<strong>That was really the point of my original post. I've ordered it, it's all but in the mail now, so don't I have a right to use it now?</strong><hr></blockquote>
You do not. There is nothing in copyright law that gives you this right and Apple (the holder), I'm sure, isn't going to give you the right until the (authorized) copy they send to you arrives at your door (and you accept the EULA, too, probably <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" /> ).
Seriously, just pirate it. You're not morally wrong for doing it, you're just breaking the law. You're probably breaking laws every day without even knowing it. There are so many of them and they're all so convoluted, it's impossible not to break laws. So go for it (I would) - as long as you don't decide to cancel your order after you pirate it. That would be morally wrong.