Magsafe is a great differenciator from the Bog Standard Windows Laptops.
Loss of MagSafe is a huge loss and surprising. Couldn't they have created a magnetic USB-C nub that would fit into a USB-C port and allow a magnetic cable to connect to it?
I miss MagSafe on my 2015 MacBook. MagSafe has never carried data. You wouldn't want an external HD disconnected via MagSafe. There is a third-party magnetic disconnect available for USB-C but it's a little ungainly and still no data capability.
I'd like to see MagSafe, USB-C and USB3 ports and yes, an Ethernet port. But on an MPB, not MB. Anyone who needs e-net and hate dongles should avoid a MB. It doesn't work for everybody but it does for me. However I wouldn't say no to an MB with MagSafe and one USB-C port.
Apple does not have a quest for thinness, they have a quest for weight reduction. Thinness is a side effect, not the goal.
That's utter bullshit. BULLSHIT. Apple could have lighter without thinner and vice versa. But they don't. EVERY instance of thinness is heavily touted by Apple in all their media. If somehow they couldn't make a MB/MBP/MBA/iPad lighter but could make it thinner they certainly would.
You can't run power and ethernet on the 12 inch Macbook AT THE SAME TIME
Anybody who bought a MB and needs that connectivity DIDN'T DO THEIR HOMEWORK. You don't by a Fiat 500 to haul 4x6s from the lumbar yard to the construction site or haul your 32' Catalina. You buy the right tool for the right job.
There are several docks available that can make an MB very serviceable in the home but not necessarily the kitchen or the bathroom. But if common sense were actually common half of these posts wouldn't exist.
You can't run power and ethernet on the 12 inch Macbook AT THE SAME TIME -- and Apple doesn't even make an adaptor that allows one to do this -- , so it is pretty useless machine if you want your computer connected, say in the kitchen, or on your desk. One is better off with the 13inch Macbook Air which allows for Ethernet and power at the same time ... these are the basics of computing ... especially if you don't want to needlessly radiate your brain with wi-fi radiation.
Well, the only thing we know for sure is that Apple won't design a machine based on your paranoia
Loss of MagSafe is a huge loss and surprising. Couldn't they have created a magnetic USB-C nub that would fit into a USB-C port and allow a magnetic cable to connect to it?
I miss MagSafe on my 2015 MacBook. MagSafe has never carried data. You wouldn't want an external HD disconnected via MagSafe. There is a third-party magnetic disconnect available for USB-C but it's a little ungainly and still no data capability.
I'd like to see MagSafe, USB-C and USB3 ports and yes, an Ethernet port. But on an MPB, not MB. Anyone who needs e-net and hate dongles should avoid a MB. It doesn't work for everybody but it does for me. However I wouldn't say no to an MB with MagSafe and one USB-C port.
If the smartConnector on the iPadPro can deliver enough power to charge that device then who knows what it capable of delivering power wise?
They could add the smartConnector across the range and use it as a MagSafe replacement freeing up USB-C connectors for intended propose on models with limited connections. Given this connector seems to carry at least USB 1 data it could be expanded to add all sorts of snap on functions.
If you desktop dock/monitor with higher data demand and connections then the USB-C could still be a single dock connector.
...want to see a 32gb system memory option for the MacBook Pro 15".
That is just adorable. 32G RAM in a MBP. Don't you ever stop dreaming.
The only reason there was no option for more than 16GB so far is that mobile controllers couldn't address more RAM than that.
There is no reason not to expect an option for 32 GB in upcoming models - and if they have one, I'm buying it. I'll be replacing my production and live-performance MacBook Pro with the new one, and I'd love to have it last as long as the old one has (five years) without prematurely hitting resource or horsepower limits.
RAM is less of a problem since Mavericks introduced memory compression, but who knows where virtual instruments/MainStage/Logic and assorted tools will be in 2020?
You can't run power and ethernet on the 12 inch Macbook AT THE SAME TIME -- and Apple doesn't even make an adaptor that allows one to do this -- , so it is pretty useless machine if you want your computer connected, say in the kitchen, or on your desk. One is better off with the 13inch Macbook Air which allows for Ethernet and power at the same time ... these are the basics of computing ... especially if you don't want to needlessly radiate your brain with wi-fi radiation.
plus of course all the USB-only adapters that will charge your machine and work just fine with the USB to Ethernet adapter.
Thanks for the list.
The first product is a hideous dock ... which would be fine if you could hide it in the cupboard, and then have a single cable from the dock to the computer that carried both power and data (ethernet) simultaneously. I spent some time looking for such a cable ... you would think it was a standard item ... Apple don't even make one.
The second product - the hydra dock - which is not even shipping yet ... is the kind of thing one wants ... but again, one wants to stick the hydra dock in the cupboard, do all the ugly connections and wiring in there, and then have a single cable that goes from the dock in the cupboard to the USB-C port. e.g. a 2m extension cable. Again, Apple doesn't make it ... and IF you can find somebody who does ... please let me know ... that would be interesting!
... especially if you don't want to needlessly radiate your brain with wi-fi radiation.
Non-ionizing radiation is not harmful to living organisms. There is probably more radiation coming from your TV than from a WiFi router. A more serious danger to your brain is watching cat videos online.
Tell that to a hospital ward where most of the people have brain tumours on the same side of their head that they hold their mobile phones on. Your understanding of physics is also somewhat naive: radiation obeys the inverse square law, meaning that sources held near your head (like a phone or wi-fi emitter) pose a problem, but if you stand even a couple of metres away from them, they no longer pose a problem. Further, their are dozens of published studies that show that mobile phones (even in standby mode - where they still send out pulses to the base station to give geo location) can destroy or mutate DNA. Keep warm and toasty.
You can't run power and ethernet on the 12 inch Macbook AT THE SAME TIME
Anybody who bought a MB and needs that connectivity DIDN'T DO THEIR HOMEWORK. You don't by a Fiat 500 to haul 4x6s from the lumbar yard to the construction site or haul your 32' Catalina. You buy the right tool for the right job.
There are several docks available that can make an MB very serviceable in the home but not necessarily the kitchen or the bathroom. But if common sense were actually common half of these posts wouldn't exist.
I think your response is confused. The point is that USB-C could technically support an extension cable that allowed POWER and DATA at the same time ... Apple highlight this as a feature ... but they don't offer it. If you want it, you have to buy an ugly hub, clutter your desk with cables (which is the opposite of the whole point), when it is technically possible to hide all the cables and hub in a cupboard (or under the counter), and then have just a single extension cable (carrying DATA and POWER) to the machine, which would be very elegant and APPLE like, but Apple don't offer it, and I am not aware that anyone does.
The say --- lookie what is possible ... and then they don't offer it.
wozwoz said: Tell that to a hospital ward where most of the people have brain tumours on the same side of their head that they hold their mobile phones on. Your understanding of physics is also somewhat naive: radiation obeys the inverse square law, meaning that sources held near your head (like a phone or wi-fi emitter) pose a problem, but if you stand even a couple of metres away from them, they no longer pose a problem. Further, their are dozens of published studies that show that mobile phones (even in standby mode - where they still send out pulses to the base station to give geo location) can destroy or mutate DNA. Keep warm and toasty.
Well clearly I shouldn't argue with a notable research scientist such as yourself. I was not aware of the hospital ward of which you speak, although I do have a wi-fi 'emitter' held to my head at this very moment as I Google it.
you conflating two points -- something newer coming out after you buy something else, vs performance (your original complaint suggested your daughter wouldnt be able to do her programming on today's MBP). if you're worried about something newer coming out after you buy one today i can't help you -- theres always something newer coming out. but if its actual concern about her needing tools and she needs it now, theres absolutely no good reason to wait or complain that today's MBs don't have enough power to enable her to do her programming coursework. they do. in fact almost any MB Air/Pro is going to be fine for a student's needs.
No, I didn't suggest that she couldn't use a current model. I suggested that I would like her to have a newer model since I am paying for it and want it to last.
Nor or am I concerned that a newer model will come out after purchase. I am well aware of the fact that there is always something newer. And I prefer to buy when a new model comes out to extend that useful life.
Again, I explained this pretty clearly, and you are putting words and reasons into the post that I didn't write. Nor is this "hate" as you claimed before. This is simply a person who is in the market for a laptop hoping a new model comes out before the buying window closes.
Maybe be you try reading what you respond to rather than responding to a strawman?
like i said, your original complaint was either about something newer coming out after you bought her one. or the suggestion that it wouldn't serve the job of astrophysics and programming (why mention those at all if not?). if it's worry about something newer coming out after you buy, good luck with life. if it's about the programming, I can assure you she won't have a problem with almost any MB. mine is years old and still flies.
if you buy a rMBP today, I guarantee she'd be able to use it perfectly for her entire 4-5 years of coursework, performance-wise. the storage chips are just that fast. will newer CPUs come out? sure, but they won't make this machine any less capable. speaking from professional experience here.
This makes no sense. Updating the Air line is stupid. The only reason for the Air right now is to meet an entry level price point. If anything needs updating its the Retina MacBook Pro and the Mac mini.
The Air is Apple's best-selling laptop. Thus, updating it is far from stupid.
that didn't stop Jobs from cutting their most popular iPod in order to release something better.
Apple does not have a quest for thinness, they have a quest for weight reduction. Thinness is a side effect, not the goal.
That's utter bullshit. BULLSHIT. Apple could have lighter without thinner and vice versa. But they don't. EVERY instance of thinness is heavily touted by Apple in all their media. If somehow they couldn't make a MB/MBP/MBA/iPad lighter but could make it thinner they certainly would.
Non-ionizing radiation is not harmful to living organisms. There is probably more radiation coming from your TV than from a WiFi router. A more serious danger to your brain is watching cat videos online.
Tell that to a hospital ward where most of the people have brain tumours on the same side of their head that they hold their mobile phones on. Your understanding of physics is also somewhat naive: radiation obeys the inverse square law, meaning that sources held near your head (like a phone or wi-fi emitter) pose a problem, but if you stand even a couple of metres away from them, they no longer pose a problem. Further, their are dozens of published studies that show that mobile phones (even in standby mode - where they still send out pulses to the base station to give geo location) can destroy or mutate DNA. Keep warm and toasty.
there is no reliable data that show your hypothetical hospital people got their tumors from cell phones. if it was as simple as that we'd all have tumors on our heads. we don't. the data thus far doesn't support that conclusion.
happy to to read your well sourced, credible studies to the contrary. surely the Mayo clinic supports your conclusion?
Non-ionizing radiation is not harmful to living organisms. There is probably more radiation coming from your TV than from a WiFi router. A more serious danger to your brain is watching cat videos online.
Tell that to a hospital ward where most of the people have brain tumours on the same side of their head that they hold their mobile phones on. Your understanding of physics is also somewhat naive: radiation obeys the inverse square law, meaning that sources held near your head (like a phone or wi-fi emitter) pose a problem, but if you stand even a couple of metres away from them, they no longer pose a problem. Further, their are dozens of published studies that show that mobile phones (even in standby mode - where they still send out pulses to the base station to give geo location) can destroy or mutate DNA. Keep warm and toasty.
Then what is causing the reduction of other brain tumors?
If the rates of tumor detection have remained stable in the population over 30years then there must be a corresponding reduction to line up with the apparent Mobile Phone spike. Researchers should be looking for the reduction as it clearly holds a big clue on the cure. Or there just isn't a spike just higher visibility.
I think your response in confused. I'm not talking about what Apple could do. My response to the complaint that you can't use the Ethernet adapter and run power at the same time, is that anyone who needs that capability bought the wrong machine.
As to running both power and data through USB-C, no third-party manufacturer seems to have done that reliably, and one- Nonda, has indefinitely shelved their hub that claimed to do just that.
Then there's the whole MagSafe thing, which is what I was talking about in the first place. USB-C isn't really conducive to MagSafing, and even if it was, running data through a MS connector doesn't seem like a smart idea.
That's utter bullshit. BULLSHIT. Apple could have lighter without thinner and vice versa. But they don't. EVERY instance of thinness is heavily touted by Apple in all their media. If somehow they couldn't make a MB/MBP/MBA/iPad lighter but could make it thinner they certainly would.
source? proof? or just random conjecture?
Astute observation of Apple's long touted practices and announcements. Nothing random about it. Which is more than offered in the post I was responding to. Do you have any source or proof otherwise?
If you want talk random, I'd point to the rare and random complaint that Apple should stop making products thinner and give them more battery life. As random and rare as those are, even more so are complaints that products are too heavy. "I don't care about battery life! Make the phone 10g lighter!"
Anybody who believes Apple would never make a device thinner if it couldn't also be made lighter, is delusional.
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Either way hopefully they will have atleast two USB C ports, one USB 3.0 port, and Ethernet still
I'd like to see MagSafe, USB-C and USB3 ports and yes, an Ethernet port. But on an MPB, not MB. Anyone who needs e-net and hate dongles should avoid a MB. It doesn't work for everybody but it does for me. However I wouldn't say no to an MB with MagSafe and one USB-C port.
That's utter bullshit. BULLSHIT. Apple could have lighter without thinner and vice versa. But they don't. EVERY instance of thinness is heavily touted by Apple in all their media. If somehow they couldn't make a MB/MBP/MBA/iPad lighter but could make it thinner they certainly would.
There are several docks available that can make an MB very serviceable in the home but not necessarily the kitchen or the bathroom. But if common sense were actually common half of these posts wouldn't exist.
They could add the smartConnector across the range and use it as a MagSafe replacement freeing up USB-C connectors for intended propose on models with limited connections. Given this connector seems to carry at least USB 1 data it could be expanded to add all sorts of snap on functions.
If you desktop dock/monitor with higher data demand and connections then the USB-C could still be a single dock connector.
There is no reason not to expect an option for 32 GB in upcoming models - and if they have one, I'm buying it. I'll be replacing my production and live-performance MacBook Pro with the new one, and I'd love to have it last as long as the old one has (five years) without prematurely hitting resource or horsepower limits.
RAM is less of a problem since Mavericks introduced memory compression, but who knows where virtual instruments/MainStage/Logic and assorted tools will be in 2020?
The first product is a hideous dock ... which would be fine if you could hide it in the cupboard, and then have a single cable from the dock to the computer that carried both power and data (ethernet) simultaneously. I spent some time looking for such a cable ... you would think it was a standard item ... Apple don't even make one.
The second product - the hydra dock - which is not even shipping yet ... is the kind of thing one wants ... but again, one wants to stick the hydra dock in the cupboard, do all the ugly connections and wiring in there, and then have a single cable that goes from the dock in the cupboard to the USB-C port. e.g. a 2m extension cable. Again, Apple doesn't make it ... and IF you can find somebody who does ... please let me know ... that would be interesting!
Tell that to a hospital ward where most of the people have brain tumours on the same side of their head that they hold their mobile phones on. Your understanding of physics is also somewhat naive: radiation obeys the inverse square law, meaning that sources held near your head (like a phone or wi-fi emitter) pose a problem, but if you stand even a couple of metres away from them, they no longer pose a problem. Further, their are dozens of published studies that show that mobile phones (even in standby mode - where they still send out pulses to the base station to give geo location) can destroy or mutate DNA. Keep warm and toasty.
I think your response is confused. The point is that USB-C could technically support an extension cable that allowed POWER and DATA at the same time ... Apple highlight this as a feature ... but they don't offer it. If you want it, you have to buy an ugly hub, clutter your desk with cables (which is the opposite of the whole point), when it is technically possible to hide all the cables and hub in a cupboard (or under the counter), and then have just a single extension cable (carrying DATA and POWER) to the machine, which would be very elegant and APPLE like, but Apple don't offer it, and I am not aware that anyone does.
The say --- lookie what is possible ... and then they don't offer it.
if you buy a rMBP today, I guarantee she'd be able to use it perfectly for her entire 4-5 years of coursework, performance-wise. the storage chips are just that fast. will newer CPUs come out? sure, but they won't make this machine any less capable. speaking from professional experience here.
that didn't stop Jobs from cutting their most popular iPod in order to release something better.
there is no reliable data that show your hypothetical hospital people got their tumors from cell phones. if it was as simple as that we'd all have tumors on our heads. we don't. the data thus far doesn't support that conclusion.
happy to to read your well sourced, credible studies to the contrary. surely the Mayo clinic supports your conclusion?
If the rates of tumor detection have remained stable in the population over 30years then there must be a corresponding reduction to line up with the apparent Mobile Phone spike. Researchers should be looking for the reduction as it clearly holds a big clue on the cure. Or there just isn't a spike just higher visibility.
As to running both power and data through USB-C, no third-party manufacturer seems to have done that reliably, and one- Nonda, has indefinitely shelved their hub that claimed to do just that.
Then there's the whole MagSafe thing, which is what I was talking about in the first place. USB-C isn't really conducive to MagSafing, and even if it was, running data through a MS connector doesn't seem like a smart idea.
Astute observation of Apple's long touted practices and announcements. Nothing random about it. Which is more than offered in the post I was responding to. Do you have any source or proof otherwise?
If you want talk random, I'd point to the rare and random complaint that Apple should stop making products thinner and give them more battery life. As random and rare as those are, even more so are complaints that products are too heavy. "I don't care about battery life! Make the phone 10g lighter!"
Anybody who believes Apple would never make a device thinner if it couldn't also be made lighter, is delusional.