FBI director calls for restart of smartphone encryption debate

24

Comments

  • Reply 21 of 65
    flaneurflaneur Posts: 4,526member

    freerange said:

    slurpy said:
    You know, you're really a piece of shit, bringing in your partisan bullshit into these threads. Noone gives a shit about what you think of Clinton, you're really an embarrassment with your foaming-at-the-mouth posts devoid of any logic or reason. You don't decide who is and isn't a criminal. You're also a traitor, for cheering on hacking attempts from foreign governments. And, human scum, for supporting a demagogue like Donald Trump who has yet to say a single sane thing this entire election cycle, besides his ignorant and hate-filled tirades.
    Thank you slurpy! We should get this clown tossed if he doesnt stop....
    I'm of two minds about that. As Trump continues to fall apart, so will Apple ][. I'll be like having our own canary.

    But I second the props to Slurpy.
    edited August 2016
    anton zuykovstourquepscooter63nolamacguypalomine
     5Likes 0Dislikes 0Informatives
  • Reply 22 of 65
    clemynxclemynx Posts: 1,552member
    If they wanted to end it they simply had to wait a few hours last time to know what Justice would decide on the matter. 
    wonkothesanelatifbp
     2Likes 0Dislikes 0Informatives
  • Reply 23 of 65
    bwinskibwinski Posts: 164member
    That debate dirtbag, IS OVER. YOU LOST. BUH...BYE.
    latifbp
     1Like 0Dislikes 0Informatives
  • Reply 24 of 65
    anton zuykovanton zuykov Posts: 1,056member
    apple ][ said:
    You might find that Russia is a much more suitable place for you to live in, comparing to the US. The Russian Gov't is constantly on the look out for various traitors ... among its critics. When no traitors or spies are found, the gov-t just sets inconvenient people up. Hackers are used for that as well, by the way (that is regarding your endorsement of the russian as well as of chinese hackers). So, supporting russian hackers, just because it is useful for this moment is a really stupid idea. 
    edited August 2016
    magman1979Deelronlatifbppalomine
     4Likes 0Dislikes 0Informatives
  • Reply 25 of 65
    creek0512creek0512 Posts: 111member
    williamh said:
    I agree with a lot of what you all are saying, particularly with regard to the corruption going on.  But we ought to support his effort to engage in the debate before some national security or terror incident that involves encryption.  If the debate takes place when emotions are high, the citizens lose. At least now it might be possible to have a reasoned discussion. 
    Hasn't Coney already tried that with San Bernadino?
     0Likes 0Dislikes 0Informatives
  • Reply 26 of 65
    mcdavemcdave Posts: 1,927member
    Oh but James, something terrible is about to happen.  That's why the US Govt is scrambling to revoke the right to bear arms against enemies domestic.  300 million Americans are about to realise that free will is the ability to choose one of THEIR OWN options, not the ability to choose one of SOMEONE ELSE'S. The latter is the opposite of liberty and the enemy are wearing suits and grins, not backpacks and sun-tans.
    Know thy enemy & fire at will - no wait, that's happening already.
    edited August 2016
    JessiReturnsgtr
     2Likes 0Dislikes 0Informatives
  • Reply 27 of 65
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    slurpy said:
    apple ][ said:
    Screw that guy, letting the #1 criminal go scot free.

    My trust in the FBI is approximately 0%.

    And something terrible is no doubt going to happen sooner rather than later, and I do not give a crap if the FBI can not hack into any phones. Something terrible happens approximately every 86 hours in Europe, sucks to be them I guess. B

    I am currently supporting Russian hackers, Chinese hackers and hackers all over the world and wikileaks too to do what the FBI refused to do, bring justice! Let's see those emails! They're coming soon! It's going to be awesome! I can't wait!


    Noone gives a shit about what you think of Clinton, you're really an embarrassment with your foaming-at-the-mouth posts devoid of any logic or reason. You don't decide who is and isn't a criminal. You're also a traitor, for cheering on hacking attempts from foreign governments. And supporting a demagogue like Donald Trump who has yet to say a single sane thing this entire election cycle, besides his ignorant and hate-filled tirades.
    Thank God you were the better man by not resorting to name calling, abuse, and spouting your own hate-filled, foaming-at-the-mouth, tirade, huh?
    edited August 2016
    apple ][boopthesnootJessiReturns
     3Likes 0Dislikes 0Informatives
  • Reply 28 of 65
    "The hack cost the taxpayers more than $1.34 million, according to Comey. No useful data was found."

    Fixed it for ya.
    edited August 2016
    magman1979Deelron
     2Likes 0Dislikes 0Informatives
  • Reply 29 of 65
    stourquestourque Posts: 365member
    apple ][ said:
    Your man Trump was all in favour of forcing Apple to provide a back door for their encryption, and he even called for a boycott of Apple. Just wondering what exactly you stand for. Either you're with Apple or you're with Trump.
    edited August 2016
    latifbppalomineration al
     3Likes 0Dislikes 0Informatives
  • Reply 30 of 65
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    slurpy said:
    who has yet to say a single sane thing this entire election cycle, besides his ignorant and hate-filled tirades.
    Fuck, I used to think that rationality governed your thoughts. How could I have been so wrong?
    gtrlatifbpSpamSandwich
     3Likes 0Dislikes 0Informatives
  • Reply 31 of 65

    He thinks he has just handed Felony Clinton the election so he's getting and advance start on the "Panopticon Program"-- eg total surveillance.

    Remember this is the guy who heads an organization that fabricated an entire field of forensic science (hair analysis) and has been FRAUDULENTLY TESTIFYING to convict people based on this faked evidence for over 40 years.

    How many FBI employees are under indictment now for that?

    Like Felony Clinton and Obamassa and W the Chimp and Monica Lewinsky's boyfriend, the presidents from both parties for the past 20 years have been totally corrupt.

    The FBI keeps engaging in domestic terrorism, forming plots so that they can then "bust" whatever rubes they can get to come to a meeting. 

    You leftist blowhards are just as bad as the neocons were during the W administration-- you're so eager to have your dictator in power that you never realize how hypocritical you are.


    You rant about Trump but every criticism you can make about him-- and there are a lot of legitimate ones-- Felony is much worse.  She's a tyrant, a bigot, and just in it for money.  She's corrupt from top to bottom, just like this FBI director.

    Where's the investigation of him finding Felony committed a felony but letting her off the hook, 2 days after a secret meeting between her husband and an administration official?

    This country sure has turned into a banana republic!
    tallest skillatifbpSpamSandwich
     3Likes 0Dislikes 0Informatives
  • Reply 32 of 65

    stourque said:
    Either you're with Apple or you're with Trump.
    Only a Sith deals in false dichotomies.  Please get a dictionary of logical fallacies. 

    KTHXBAI
    apple ][
     1Like 0Dislikes 0Informatives
  • Reply 33 of 65
    freerange said:
    apple ][ said:
    Screw that guy, letting the #1 criminal go scot free.

    My trust in the FBI is approximately 0%.

    And something terrible is no doubt going to happen sooner rather than later, and I do not give a crap if the FBI can not hack into any phones. Something terrible happens approximately every 86 hours in Europe, sucks to be them I guess. B)

    I am currently supporting Russian hackers, Chinese hackers and hackers all over the world and wikileaks too to do what the FBI refused to do, bring justice! Let's see those emails! They're coming soon! It's going to be awesome! I can't wait! :#


    Give it a rest! You have no idea what you are talking about. And like the moron "the Donald", you are now encouraging foreign entities to engage in espionage which is a treasonable offense. Aren't you the genius...

    Uh, if it's treasonable, why did the USA enter into a treaty with Russia to engage in that very behavior?  In fact, this treaty was ratified by the congress while Bill Clinton was president.

    Really, you guys gotta stop mindlessly repeating what you're told to think by Talking Points Memo.


    tallest skilaylk
     2Likes 0Dislikes 0Informatives
  • Reply 34 of 65
    latifbplatifbp Posts: 544member
    williamh said:
    I agree with a lot of what you all are saying, particularly with regard to the corruption going on.  But we ought to support his effort to engage in the debate before some national security or terror incident that involves encryption.  If the debate takes place when emotions are high, the citizens lose. At least now it might be possible to have a reasoned discussion. 
    It is non-negotiable
     0Likes 0Dislikes 0Informatives
  • Reply 35 of 65
    foggyhillfoggyhill Posts: 4,767member
    Getting his ass kicked once was not enough; second servings?
    latifbppalomine
     2Likes 0Dislikes 0Informatives
  • Reply 36 of 65
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    freerange said:
    …you are now encouraging foreign entities to engage in espionage which is a treasonable offense.
    If you’re unfamiliar with English, why not hold off on commenting thereon? He (Trump) said absolutely no such thing.

    And since it has already been mentioned, a direct link to the thing that blows the fuck out of the DNC’s libel.
    gtr
     1Like 0Dislikes 0Informatives
  • Reply 37 of 65
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    freerange said:
    …you are now encouraging foreign entities to engage in espionage which is a treasonable offense.
    If you’re unfamiliar with English, why not hold off on commenting thereon? He (Trump) said absolutely no such thing.

    And since it has already been mentioned, a direct link to the thing that blows the fuck out of the DNC’s libel.
    SpamSandwich
     1Like 0Dislikes 0Informatives
  • Reply 38 of 65
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
    freerange said:
    …you are now encouraging foreign entities to engage in espionage which is a treasonable offense.
    If you’re unfamiliar with English, why not hold off on commenting thereon? He (Trump) said absolutely no such thing.
    Babe, absolutely no such thing?

    "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing.  I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press."

    How is that not encouraging a foreign entity to engage in espionage?

    Encouraging - "reward" - Check.
    Foreign entity - "Russia" - Check.
    Espionage - "email" (hacking) - Check.
    Treason - "I hope" - Check. 



    edited August 2016
    cnocbuilatifbppalomineDeelronration al
     5Likes 0Dislikes 0Informatives
  • Reply 39 of 65
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    crowley said:
    How is that not encouraging a foreign entity to engage in espionage?
    If you’re unable to parse the context and content of two sentences, the statements which explain to children exactly what was said have been long posted. But you know that. You’re perfectly capable of finding them. But you know that, too. And the DNC’s own response shows that the deleted e-mails weren’t “personal” in content. You also know that. You just don’t give a fuck.

    No wonder you’re so confused, anyway. Look at all the fucking conditionals I had to put on my (time-limited) search to get the damn thing to give me factual information: 
    -latimes -politico -cnbc -fox -abcnews -vox -washingtonpost -npr -cbsnews -theguardian -dailycaller -nytimes -aljazeera -huffingtonpost -time.com -thinkprogress -thedailybeast
    And why do I have to do that? Because leftist-owned shitholes don’t even show up when you search for the title of the PDF I posted earlier. Every one of the above use variations on claims of future tense action, not past tense. But, of course, that’s to be expected from the DNC leaks (BUT RUSSIA INVENTED THOSE TOO IT’S ALL RUSSIA BETTER BOMB THEM!) which prove the media’s owned by the DNC or vice versa.

    But I was extremely pleased (and surprised, hence the mention) by the BBC’s initial coverage thereof. It seems that Britons, of all people, would certainly be able to read their own language and be able to see THE TENSE OF THE SPOKEN SENTENCES. CNN, even, in one article, was wholly unbiased, using “called on Russian agencies to find” rather than “to hack.” Something makes me feel that the global crow population will go extinct when Assange does his next leak…
    icoco3SpamSandwich
     2Likes 0Dislikes 0Informatives
  • Reply 40 of 65
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
    Clearly bullshit, honey, a transparent attempt to rewrite a stupid statement since that's not what Trump said at all.  Trump didn't mention the FBI, and even if he did, it's irrelevant.  Whatever the motivation, he is openly inviting Russia to hack into an American political party's email.  That's outside influence, and collusion with a nation that it would not be untoward to describe as belligerent and hostile to US interests.

    Treasonous.  Given your history in being uncommonly lax about the definition of the word treason I think this more than fits your bill.

    Mike Pence is not Donald Trump.  I don't give a damn what Mike Pence said after the fact, and he didn't directly address what Trump said anyway, just engaged in some distraction.  We're talking about Trump, what Trump said, and your abject denial of his actual words.  I pasted them up there.  Right up there.  Look, I'll paste them again:

    "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing.  I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press."

    Refute these actual words.  Not via Jason Miller or Mike Pence, but those actual words, by Donald Trump, that directly and explicitly encourage Russia to hack into a US political party's email.

    tallest skil said:

    the DNC’s own response shows that the deleted e-mails weren’t “personal” in content. You also know that. You just don’t give a fuck.
    Damn wrong I give a fuck.  If the emails were personal then inviting Russia to hack into them would be bad.  If they're not personal then that's an order of magnitude worse.  Just because you want to know what's in someone's email doesn't make inviting Russia to break in any measure of ok.  Take some responsibility for your clown candidate's irresponsibility.

    Also, I don't think the response shows that at all.  It's a criticism of Trump, not an admission of anything.  Your interpretation of words appears to be broken.

    No wonder you’re so confused, anyway. Look at all the fucking conditionals I had to put on my (time-limited) search to get the damn thing to give me factual information: 
    And why do I have to do that? Because leftist-owned shitholes don’t even show up when you search for the title of the PDF I posted earlier. Every one of the above use variations on claims of future tense action, not past tense. But, of course, that’s to be expected from the DNC leaks (BUT RUSSIA INVENTED THOSE TOO IT’S ALL RUSSIA BETTER BOMB THEM!) which prove the media’s owned by the DNC or vice versa.

    But I was extremely pleased (and surprised, hence the mention) by the BBC’s initial coverage thereof. It seems that Britons, of all people, would certainly be able to read their own language and be able to see THE TENSE OF THE SPOKEN SENTENCES. CNN, even, in one article, was wholly unbiased, using “called on Russian agencies to find” rather than “to hack.” Something makes me feel that the global crow population will go extinct when Assange does his next leak…
    Rant rant, rah, rah, don't care.

    I don't even know why you posted that PDF.  What does a US-Russian treaty have to do with anything?
    edited August 2016
    palominelatifbpstourqueDeelronpbrstreetgration alAni
     7Likes 0Dislikes 0Informatives
Sign In or Register to comment.