You clowns better not download this today and then cry that it has bugs.
Wait for at least 5 days and then update.
Yep, and then never upgrade again just in case there are still bugs. In fact, never buy anything new again, ever, just in case there's something wrong with it.
Its about probability.
wait 5 days and 99% of the bugs should be gone wait 5 months and 99.9% bugs should be gone
Do the math, waiting about 5 days is the sweet spot for time waiting. The majority of the bugs are found in the first couple days.
I always update my devices as soon as an update is available and I've never had a problem
I don't understand the hype around the Portrait Mode and I don't understand why it is only available for iPhone 7 Plus! This feature exists since Galaxy S5 and it works with one camera alone and it is more powerful than the Apple copy: look at the pan focus. Orson Welles would have been happy to have a Galagy in 1941 when he did something similar in Citizen Kane:
The blur in Selective focus is not the same as portrait mode. Apple's already can create the same effect as Selective focus' blurriness since iPhone 5. This is the portrait mode as seen below, note the sharpness of the object against the highly depth of field effect at the background. This kind of photo only can be captured with multiple lens taking the object and background separately similar to DSLR.
Kevin, I have to correct you. Firstly: a DSLR does not take multiple pictures from the object and background. A DSLR works only optically! The focal length and some other aspects define the blurring effect. Secondly: Selective Focus is not what iPhone 5 can do. As you correctly indicated you have to take at least two images. And this is exactly what Selective Focus does: it takes two images. Thanks to Galaxy S7's lightning focusing this works very good. It takes one image focused on the object and one focused on the backgroud. The rest is pure image processing. This is also the reason why Pan Focus of Selective Focus is possible at all. If Selective Focus just takes one image, it would not be possible to focus on the background via image processing afterwards.
Therefore Apple's portrait mode is in principle a copy of the Selective Focus and nothing else. The difference is that Apple's image processing do a bit mnore "blurring".
But let us look at advantages and disadvantages: - Two cameras allow better blurring in case of moving objects since bith pictures are shot at the same time - Unfortunately Apple use two different cameras with different focal lengths and from slightly different angles. I think this is what makes the image processing harder. - In case of Galaxys, both pictures have the same camera with the same angle, If Samsung follows LG and Huawei, as Apple did, the next S8 could have two cameras as well. Maybe Samsung uses alternatively twice the same camera in order to allow stereo pictures.
The blur in Selective focus is not the same as portrait mode. Apple's already can create the same effect as Selective focus' blurriness since iPhone 5. This is the portrait mode as seen below, note the sharpness of the object against the highly depth of field effect at the background. This kind of photo only can be captured with multiple lens taking the object and background separately similar to DSLR.
Thank you for a superb post. I think you just gobsmacked a bunch of silly fandroids. Hopefully, they'll just put their tail between their legs and go away (but I somehow doubt it)...
You have no clue about either phone's technology. Try to understand my response to Kevin. Maybe you'll get it, but I doubt. I hope you don't commit suicide just because Apple copies Samsung this time:) Believe me neither Sammy nor Apple care about such fans like you.
The blur in Selective focus is not the same as portrait mode. Apple's already can create the same effect as Selective focus' blurriness since iPhone 5. This is the portrait mode as seen below, note the sharpness of the object against the highly depth of field effect at the background. This kind of photo only can be captured with multiple lens taking the object and background separately similar to DSLR.
Thank you for a superb post. I think you just gobsmacked a bunch of silly fandroids. Hopefully, they'll just put their tail between their legs and go away (but I somehow doubt it)...
You have no clue about either phone's technology. Try to understand my response to Kevin. Maybe you'll get it, but I doubt. I hope you don't commit suicide just because Apple copies Samsung this time:) Believe me neither Sammy nor Apple care about such fans like you.
Samsung's gimmick Selective Focus isn't the same as iPhone Portrait mode. Have you ever used DSLR? The way you're talking is like someone who doesn't understand photography at all.
The blur in Selective focus is not the same as portrait mode. Apple's already can create the same effect as Selective focus' blurriness since iPhone 5. This is the portrait mode as seen below, note the sharpness of the object against the highly depth of field effect at the background. This kind of photo only can be captured with multiple lens taking the object and background separately similar to DSLR.
Thank you for a superb post. I think you just gobsmacked a bunch of silly fandroids. Hopefully, they'll just put their tail between their legs and go away (but I somehow doubt it)...
You have no clue about either phone's technology. Try to understand my response to Kevin. Maybe you'll get it, but I doubt. I hope you don't commit suicide just because Apple copies Samsung this time:) Believe me neither Sammy nor Apple care about such fans like you.
Samsung's gimmick Selective Focus isn't the same as iPhone Portrait mode. Have you ever used DSLR? The way you're talking is like someone who doesn't understand photography at all.
Actually I can't believe how stupid some fans can respond! Why do you respond at all if you have no, really no clou what you are talking about? Did you understand my explanation above? Are you aware of the fact hat Selective Focus or Portrait Mode are just simulating the blurring because their lenses cannot do the same physically. How old are you? The way you respond is just stupid! Simply unbelievable!
The blur in Selective focus is not the same as portrait mode. Apple's already can create the same effect as Selective focus' blurriness since iPhone 5. This is the portrait mode as seen below, note the sharpness of the object against the highly depth of field effect at the background. This kind of photo only can be captured with multiple lens taking the object and background separately similar to DSLR.
Thank you for a superb post. I think you just gobsmacked a bunch of silly fandroids. Hopefully, they'll just put their tail between their legs and go away (but I somehow doubt it)...
You have no clue about either phone's technology. Try to understand my response to Kevin. Maybe you'll get it, but I doubt. I hope you don't commit suicide just because Apple copies Samsung this time:) Believe me neither Sammy nor Apple care about such fans like you.
Samsung's gimmick Selective Focus isn't the same as iPhone Portrait mode. Have you ever used DSLR? The way you're talking is like someone who doesn't understand photography at all.
Actually I can't believe how stupid some fans can respond! Why do you respond at all if you have no, really no clou what you are talking about? Did you understand my explanation above? Are you aware of the fact hat Selective Focus or Portrait Mode are just simulating the blurring because their lenses cannot do the same physically. How old are you? The way you respond is just stupid! Simply unbelievable!
LOL. Selective Focus simulates blurring? Really? Then why its blurring is so.. SHIT? If it simulates blurring, why does it need to take TWO images?
And you still didn't answer my simple question. Have you ever used DSLR?
The blur in Selective focus is not the same as portrait mode. Apple's already can create the same effect as Selective focus' blurriness since iPhone 5. This is the portrait mode as seen below, note the sharpness of the object against the highly depth of field effect at the background. This kind of photo only can be captured with multiple lens taking the object and background separately similar to DSLR.
Thank you for a superb post. I think you just gobsmacked a bunch of silly fandroids. Hopefully, they'll just put their tail between their legs and go away (but I somehow doubt it)...
You have no clue about either phone's technology. Try to understand my response to Kevin. Maybe you'll get it, but I doubt. I hope you don't commit suicide just because Apple copies Samsung this time:) Believe me neither Sammy nor Apple care about such fans like you.
Samsung's gimmick Selective Focus isn't the same as iPhone Portrait mode. Have you ever used DSLR? The way you're talking is like someone who doesn't understand photography at all.
Actually I can't believe how stupid some fans can respond! Why do you respond at all if you have no, really no clou what you are talking about? Did you understand my explanation above? Are you aware of the fact hat Selective Focus or Portrait Mode are just simulating the blurring because their lenses cannot do the same physically. How old are you? The way you respond is just stupid! Simply unbelievable!
LOL. Selective Focus simulates blurring? Really? Then why its blurring is so.. SHIT? If it simulates blurring, why does it need to take TWO images?
And you still didn't answer my simple question. Have you ever used DSLR?
Yes, I've been using DSLR, probably before you were born! Your answers indicate an age of 10, 12, 14?
You have proved again that you don't know how this blurring simulation works. Did you know that also iPhone takes two pictures to simulate this? No, you did not? Well, this is not surprising. Seriously if you don't want to disgrace yourself, just stop posting nonsense.
Updated my 7 plus, idk if it's just because there was an update but my phone feels a little snappier. I just wonder if the issue will be gone of my phone "restarting" when I'm in the camera. Don't know if anyone else experienced that.
Are you by any chance experiencing this problem when using the camera in landscape mode? If so, are you unintentionally pressing the Home button as you hold the phone in this orientation?
The blur in Selective focus is not the same as portrait mode. Apple's already can create the same effect as Selective focus' blurriness since iPhone 5. This is the portrait mode as seen below, note the sharpness of the object against the highly depth of field effect at the background. This kind of photo only can be captured with multiple lens taking the object and background separately similar to DSLR.
Thank you for a superb post. I think you just gobsmacked a bunch of silly fandroids. Hopefully, they'll just put their tail between their legs and go away (but I somehow doubt it)...
You have no clue about either phone's technology. Try to understand my response to Kevin. Maybe you'll get it, but I doubt. I hope you don't commit suicide just because Apple copies Samsung this time:) Believe me neither Sammy nor Apple care about such fans like you.
Samsung's gimmick Selective Focus isn't the same as iPhone Portrait mode. Have you ever used DSLR? The way you're talking is like someone who doesn't understand photography at all.
Actually I can't believe how stupid some fans can respond! Why do you respond at all if you have no, really no clou what you are talking about? Did you understand my explanation above? Are you aware of the fact hat Selective Focus or Portrait Mode are just simulating the blurring because their lenses cannot do the same physically. How old are you? The way you respond is just stupid! Simply unbelievable!
LOL. Selective Focus simulates blurring? Really? Then why its blurring is so.. SHIT? If it simulates blurring, why does it need to take TWO images?
And you still didn't answer my simple question. Have you ever used DSLR?
Yes, I've been using DSLR, probably before you were born! Your answers indicate an age of 10, 12, 14?
You have proved again that you don't know how this blurring simulation works. Did you know that also iPhone takes two pictures to simulate this? No, you did not? Well, this is not surprising. Seriously if you don't want to disgrace yourself, just stop posting nonsense.
How is the iPhone "simulating" anything? It's physically using two lenses, one of them physically telescoping to create the effect. Maybe the samesung is simulating with software because that's the best it can do, but the iPhone is most certainly not simulating.
The blur in Selective focus is not the same as portrait mode. Apple's already can create the same effect as Selective focus' blurriness since iPhone 5. This is the portrait mode as seen below, note the sharpness of the object against the highly depth of field effect at the background. This kind of photo only can be captured with multiple lens taking the object and background separately similar to DSLR.
Thank you for a superb post. I think you just gobsmacked a bunch of silly fandroids. Hopefully, they'll just put their tail between their legs and go away (but I somehow doubt it)...
You have no clue about either phone's technology. Try to understand my response to Kevin. Maybe you'll get it, but I doubt. I hope you don't commit suicide just because Apple copies Samsung this time:) Believe me neither Sammy nor Apple care about such fans like you.
Samsung's gimmick Selective Focus isn't the same as iPhone Portrait mode. Have you ever used DSLR? The way you're talking is like someone who doesn't understand photography at all.
Actually I can't believe how stupid some fans can respond! Why do you respond at all if you have no, really no clou what you are talking about? Did you understand my explanation above? Are you aware of the fact hat Selective Focus or Portrait Mode are just simulating the blurring because their lenses cannot do the same physically. How old are you? The way you respond is just stupid! Simply unbelievable!
LOL. Selective Focus simulates blurring? Really? Then why its blurring is so.. SHIT? If it simulates blurring, why does it need to take TWO images?
And you still didn't answer my simple question. Have you ever used DSLR?
Yes, I've been using DSLR, probably before you were born! Your answers indicate an age of 10, 12, 14?
You have proved again that you don't know how this blurring simulation works. Did you know that also iPhone takes two pictures to simulate this? No, you did not? Well, this is not surprising. Seriously if you don't want to disgrace yourself, just stop posting nonsense.
Then what lens did you use, or are using?
And no, iPhone didn't take two pictures. Only one (there is an original photo, and a post processed one that derives from it. No other photos taken. What for anyway?). It seems to me you are the one who have no clue. Please show me where another picture iPhone 7 Plus taking together with the original one for Portrait mode. If there is one you will be able to find it in Camera Roll. Quick, show me the proof!
The blur in Selective focus is not the same as portrait mode. Apple's already can create the same effect as Selective focus' blurriness since iPhone 5. This is the portrait mode as seen below, note the sharpness of the object against the highly depth of field effect at the background. This kind of photo only can be captured with multiple lens taking the object and background separately similar to DSLR.
Thank you for a superb post. I think you just gobsmacked a bunch of silly fandroids. Hopefully, they'll just put their tail between their legs and go away (but I somehow doubt it)...
You have no clue about either phone's technology. Try to understand my response to Kevin. Maybe you'll get it, but I doubt. I hope you don't commit suicide just because Apple copies Samsung this time:) Believe me neither Sammy nor Apple care about such fans like you.
Samsung's gimmick Selective Focus isn't the same as iPhone Portrait mode. Have you ever used DSLR? The way you're talking is like someone who doesn't understand photography at all.
Actually I can't believe how stupid some fans can respond! Why do you respond at all if you have no, really no clou what you are talking about? Did you understand my explanation above? Are you aware of the fact hat Selective Focus or Portrait Mode are just simulating the blurring because their lenses cannot do the same physically. How old are you? The way you respond is just stupid! Simply unbelievable!
LOL. Selective Focus simulates blurring? Really? Then why its blurring is so.. SHIT? If it simulates blurring, why does it need to take TWO images?
And you still didn't answer my simple question. Have you ever used DSLR?
Yes, I've been using DSLR, probably before you were born! Your answers indicate an age of 10, 12, 14?
You have proved again that you don't know how this blurring simulation works. Did you know that also iPhone takes two pictures to simulate this? No, you did not? Well, this is not surprising. Seriously if you don't want to disgrace yourself, just stop posting nonsense.
How is the iPhone "simulating" anything? It's physically using two lenses, one of them physically telescoping to create the effect. Maybe the samesung is simulating with software because that's the best it can do, but the iPhone is most certainly not simulating.
The iPhone 7 Plus is simulating background blur in Portrait mode. Samsung, however, has no capability for it.
Are you by any chance experiencing this problem when using the camera in landscape mode? If so, are you unintentionally pressing the Home button as you hold the phone in this orientation?
It was in portrait mode usually. For example, I would go to take a picture and sometimes hit home button to just go back to whatever or just send it and it would do a restart. It wasn't a full restart though..... So weird. I haven't seen it yet since the update but that's not to say it won't happen again. It would happen every few days.
The blur in Selective focus is not the same as portrait mode. Apple's already can create the same effect as Selective focus' blurriness since iPhone 5. This is the portrait mode as seen below, note the sharpness of the object against the highly depth of field effect at the background. This kind of photo only can be captured with multiple lens taking the object and background separately similar to DSLR.
Thank you for a superb post. I think you just gobsmacked a bunch of silly fandroids. Hopefully, they'll just put their tail between their legs and go away (but I somehow doubt it)...
You have no clue about either phone's technology. Try to understand my response to Kevin. Maybe you'll get it, but I doubt. I hope you don't commit suicide just because Apple copies Samsung this time:) Believe me neither Sammy nor Apple care about such fans like you.
Samsung's gimmick Selective Focus isn't the same as iPhone Portrait mode. Have you ever used DSLR? The way you're talking is like someone who doesn't understand photography at all.
Actually I can't believe how stupid some fans can respond! Why do you respond at all if you have no, really no clou what you are talking about? Did you understand my explanation above? Are you aware of the fact hat Selective Focus or Portrait Mode are just simulating the blurring because their lenses cannot do the same physically. How old are you? The way you respond is just stupid! Simply unbelievable!
LOL. Selective Focus simulates blurring? Really? Then why its blurring is so.. SHIT? If it simulates blurring, why does it need to take TWO images?
And you still didn't answer my simple question. Have you ever used DSLR?
Yes, I've been using DSLR, probably before you were born! Your answers indicate an age of 10, 12, 14?
You have proved again that you don't know how this blurring simulation works. Did you know that also iPhone takes two pictures to simulate this? No, you did not? Well, this is not surprising. Seriously if you don't want to disgrace yourself, just stop posting nonsense.
How is the iPhone "simulating" anything? It's physically using two lenses, one of them physically telescoping to create the effect. Maybe the samesung is simulating with software because that's the best it can do, but the iPhone is most certainly not simulating.
Good question. A DSLR creates such effects optically, out of the box. iPhones or Galaxys can't do that. They need image processing.
The foloowing is a simplistic description: Both phones need to make two images. One image focuses on the object in front and one image focuses on the background. The image processing software takes both pictures and compares them. Only because of the second image with a different focus the software can 'separate' the area of the object in front from the background. Once done, it blurs the background. Or in case of Galaxy it even mixes two focused areas (Pan Focus).
Look, if the two lenses were alone enough, what would be the reason for Apple to work on the software? It is all about the software and two images.
The blur in Selective focus is not the same as portrait mode. Apple's already can create the same effect as Selective focus' blurriness since iPhone 5. This is the portrait mode as seen below, note the sharpness of the object against the highly depth of field effect at the background. This kind of photo only can be captured with multiple lens taking the object and background separately similar to DSLR.
Thank you for a superb post. I think you just gobsmacked a bunch of silly fandroids. Hopefully, they'll just put their tail between their legs and go away (but I somehow doubt it)...
You have no clue about either phone's technology. Try to understand my response to Kevin. Maybe you'll get it, but I doubt. I hope you don't commit suicide just because Apple copies Samsung this time:) Believe me neither Sammy nor Apple care about such fans like you.
Samsung's gimmick Selective Focus isn't the same as iPhone Portrait mode. Have you ever used DSLR? The way you're talking is like someone who doesn't understand photography at all.
Actually I can't believe how stupid some fans can respond! Why do you respond at all if you have no, really no clou what you are talking about? Did you understand my explanation above? Are you aware of the fact hat Selective Focus or Portrait Mode are just simulating the blurring because their lenses cannot do the same physically. How old are you? The way you respond is just stupid! Simply unbelievable!
LOL. Selective Focus simulates blurring? Really? Then why its blurring is so.. SHIT? If it simulates blurring, why does it need to take TWO images?
And you still didn't answer my simple question. Have you ever used DSLR?
Yes, I've been using DSLR, probably before you were born! Your answers indicate an age of 10, 12, 14?
You have proved again that you don't know how this blurring simulation works. Did you know that also iPhone takes two pictures to simulate this? No, you did not? Well, this is not surprising. Seriously if you don't want to disgrace yourself, just stop posting nonsense.
Then what lens did you use, or are using?
And no, iPhone didn't take two pictures. Only one (there is an original photo, and a post processed one that derives from it. No other photos taken. What for anyway?). It seems to me you are the one who have no clue. Please show me where another picture iPhone 7 Plus taking together with the original one for Portrait mode. If there is one you will be able to find it in Camera Roll. Quick, show me the proof!
It is just hopeless! What do you think what iPhone does with the second camera? Just because it is not presented to you it does not mean it is not used for taking a picture? And what do you think why iPhone needs a software which is still in beta if the lenses alone would have been enough? It is like discussing about the theory of relativity with a 3 years old child You can't argue because it simply can't understand.
The blur in Selective focus is not the same as portrait mode. Apple's already can create the same effect as Selective focus' blurriness since iPhone 5. This is the portrait mode as seen below, note the sharpness of the object against the highly depth of field effect at the background. This kind of photo only can be captured with multiple lens taking the object and background separately similar to DSLR.
Thank you for a superb post. I think you just gobsmacked a bunch of silly fandroids. Hopefully, they'll just put their tail between their legs and go away (but I somehow doubt it)...
You have no clue about either phone's technology. Try to understand my response to Kevin. Maybe you'll get it, but I doubt. I hope you don't commit suicide just because Apple copies Samsung this time:) Believe me neither Sammy nor Apple care about such fans like you.
Samsung's gimmick Selective Focus isn't the same as iPhone Portrait mode. Have you ever used DSLR? The way you're talking is like someone who doesn't understand photography at all.
Actually I can't believe how stupid some fans can respond! Why do you respond at all if you have no, really no clou what you are talking about? Did you understand my explanation above? Are you aware of the fact hat Selective Focus or Portrait Mode are just simulating the blurring because their lenses cannot do the same physically. How old are you? The way you respond is just stupid! Simply unbelievable!
LOL. Selective Focus simulates blurring? Really? Then why its blurring is so.. SHIT? If it simulates blurring, why does it need to take TWO images?
And you still didn't answer my simple question. Have you ever used DSLR?
Yes, I've been using DSLR, probably before you were born! Your answers indicate an age of 10, 12, 14?
You have proved again that you don't know how this blurring simulation works. Did you know that also iPhone takes two pictures to simulate this? No, you did not? Well, this is not surprising. Seriously if you don't want to disgrace yourself, just stop posting nonsense.
How is the iPhone "simulating" anything? It's physically using two lenses, one of them physically telescoping to create the effect. Maybe the samesung is simulating with software because that's the best it can do, but the iPhone is most certainly not simulating.
The iPhone 7 Plus is simulating background blur in Portrait mode. Samsung, however, has no capability for it.
Initially, I though you don't want. Now I'm sure you can't understand. My discussion with you is over.
The blur in Selective focus is not the same as portrait mode. Apple's already can create the same effect as Selective focus' blurriness since iPhone 5. This is the portrait mode as seen below, note the sharpness of the object against the highly depth of field effect at the background. This kind of photo only can be captured with multiple lens taking the object and background separately similar to DSLR.
Thank you for a superb post. I think you just gobsmacked a bunch of silly fandroids. Hopefully, they'll just put their tail between their legs and go away (but I somehow doubt it)...
You have no clue about either phone's technology. Try to understand my response to Kevin. Maybe you'll get it, but I doubt. I hope you don't commit suicide just because Apple copies Samsung this time:) Believe me neither Sammy nor Apple care about such fans like you.
Samsung's gimmick Selective Focus isn't the same as iPhone Portrait mode. Have you ever used DSLR? The way you're talking is like someone who doesn't understand photography at all.
Actually I can't believe how stupid some fans can respond! Why do you respond at all if you have no, really no clou what you are talking about? Did you understand my explanation above? Are you aware of the fact hat Selective Focus or Portrait Mode are just simulating the blurring because their lenses cannot do the same physically. How old are you? The way you respond is just stupid! Simply unbelievable!
LOL. Selective Focus simulates blurring? Really? Then why its blurring is so.. SHIT? If it simulates blurring, why does it need to take TWO images?
And you still didn't answer my simple question. Have you ever used DSLR?
Yes, I've been using DSLR, probably before you were born! Your answers indicate an age of 10, 12, 14?
You have proved again that you don't know how this blurring simulation works. Did you know that also iPhone takes two pictures to simulate this? No, you did not? Well, this is not surprising. Seriously if you don't want to disgrace yourself, just stop posting nonsense.
Then what lens did you use, or are using?
And no, iPhone didn't take two pictures. Only one (there is an original photo, and a post processed one that derives from it. No other photos taken. What for anyway?). It seems to me you are the one who have no clue. Please show me where another picture iPhone 7 Plus taking together with the original one for Portrait mode. If there is one you will be able to find it in Camera Roll. Quick, show me the proof!
It is just hopeless! What do you think what iPhone does with the second camera? Just because it is not presented to you it does not mean it is not used for taking a picture? And what do you think why iPhone needs a software which is still in beta if the lenses alone would have been enough? It is like discussing about the theory of relativity with a 3 years old child You can't argue because it simply can't understand.
Huh? The second camera, together with the first one, helps determining the distance between objects. You don't have to TAKE photos for it to do that. Where are you from? The 70s? The very second you open camera app the sensor already see what lens see and Image Processor is already calculating the distance and applying masks and rendering blurs. That's why you can LIVE VIEW the blur in Portrait mode. Another feature Samsung can't do.
You don't know about all these? LMAO!
You can't be Fandroids if you're not stupid, that's for sure.
The blur in Selective focus is not the same as portrait mode. Apple's already can create the same effect as Selective focus' blurriness since iPhone 5. This is the portrait mode as seen below, note the sharpness of the object against the highly depth of field effect at the background. This kind of photo only can be captured with multiple lens taking the object and background separately similar to DSLR.
Thank you for a superb post. I think you just gobsmacked a bunch of silly fandroids. Hopefully, they'll just put their tail between their legs and go away (but I somehow doubt it)...
You have no clue about either phone's technology. Try to understand my response to Kevin. Maybe you'll get it, but I doubt. I hope you don't commit suicide just because Apple copies Samsung this time:) Believe me neither Sammy nor Apple care about such fans like you.
Samsung's gimmick Selective Focus isn't the same as iPhone Portrait mode. Have you ever used DSLR? The way you're talking is like someone who doesn't understand photography at all.
Actually I can't believe how stupid some fans can respond! Why do you respond at all if you have no, really no clou what you are talking about? Did you understand my explanation above? Are you aware of the fact hat Selective Focus or Portrait Mode are just simulating the blurring because their lenses cannot do the same physically. How old are you? The way you respond is just stupid! Simply unbelievable!
LOL. Selective Focus simulates blurring? Really? Then why its blurring is so.. SHIT? If it simulates blurring, why does it need to take TWO images?
And you still didn't answer my simple question. Have you ever used DSLR?
Yes, I've been using DSLR, probably before you were born! Your answers indicate an age of 10, 12, 14?
You have proved again that you don't know how this blurring simulation works. Did you know that also iPhone takes two pictures to simulate this? No, you did not? Well, this is not surprising. Seriously if you don't want to disgrace yourself, just stop posting nonsense.
Then what lens did you use, or are using?
And no, iPhone didn't take two pictures. Only one (there is an original photo, and a post processed one that derives from it. No other photos taken. What for anyway?). It seems to me you are the one who have no clue. Please show me where another picture iPhone 7 Plus taking together with the original one for Portrait mode. If there is one you will be able to find it in Camera Roll. Quick, show me the proof!
It is just hopeless! What do you think what iPhone does with the second camera? Just because it is not presented to you it does not mean it is not used for taking a picture? And what do you think why iPhone needs a software which is still in beta if the lenses alone would have been enough? It is like discussing about the theory of relativity with a 3 years old child You can't argue because it simply can't understand.
Huh? The second camera is determining the distance between objects. You don't have to TAKE photo for it to know. Where are you from? The 70s? The very second you open camera app the sensor already see what lens see and Image Processor is already calculating the distance and applying masks and rendering blurs. That's why you can LIVE VIEW the blur in Portrait mode. Another feature Samsung can't do.
You don't know about all these? LMAO!
LMAO? The only language you understand? Youn have contradicted yourself within the converstaion. First claiming a DSLR would work the same way without knowing it works optically only. Then claiming there is no simulation of blurring in iPhone and later you admitted in another post! Maybe you have googled it up in the meantime? Next time you should google first before you post! Whether Samsung has a live portrait mode or not, the concept is the same. Taking a picture and processing it in memory is no difference to taking a picture and saving it on the internal memory. It is the same concept. As I mentioned you have proved several times to have no clue. I know it is hard to accept for a die-hard fan, buto sorry, the first one with the effect was Samsung. I hope you can live with that.
The blur in Selective focus is not the same as portrait mode. Apple's already can create the same effect as Selective focus' blurriness since iPhone 5. This is the portrait mode as seen below, note the sharpness of the object against the highly depth of field effect at the background. This kind of photo only can be captured with multiple lens taking the object and background separately similar to DSLR.
Thank you for a superb post. I think you just gobsmacked a bunch of silly fandroids. Hopefully, they'll just put their tail between their legs and go away (but I somehow doubt it)...
You have no clue about either phone's technology. Try to understand my response to Kevin. Maybe you'll get it, but I doubt. I hope you don't commit suicide just because Apple copies Samsung this time:) Believe me neither Sammy nor Apple care about such fans like you.
Samsung's gimmick Selective Focus isn't the same as iPhone Portrait mode. Have you ever used DSLR? The way you're talking is like someone who doesn't understand photography at all.
Actually I can't believe how stupid some fans can respond! Why do you respond at all if you have no, really no clou what you are talking about? Did you understand my explanation above? Are you aware of the fact hat Selective Focus or Portrait Mode are just simulating the blurring because their lenses cannot do the same physically. How old are you? The way you respond is just stupid! Simply unbelievable!
LOL. Selective Focus simulates blurring? Really? Then why its blurring is so.. SHIT? If it simulates blurring, why does it need to take TWO images?
And you still didn't answer my simple question. Have you ever used DSLR?
Yes, I've been using DSLR, probably before you were born! Your answers indicate an age of 10, 12, 14?
You have proved again that you don't know how this blurring simulation works. Did you know that also iPhone takes two pictures to simulate this? No, you did not? Well, this is not surprising. Seriously if you don't want to disgrace yourself, just stop posting nonsense.
Then what lens did you use, or are using?
And no, iPhone didn't take two pictures. Only one (there is an original photo, and a post processed one that derives from it. No other photos taken. What for anyway?). It seems to me you are the one who have no clue. Please show me where another picture iPhone 7 Plus taking together with the original one for Portrait mode. If there is one you will be able to find it in Camera Roll. Quick, show me the proof!
It is just hopeless! What do you think what iPhone does with the second camera? Just because it is not presented to you it does not mean it is not used for taking a picture? And what do you think why iPhone needs a software which is still in beta if the lenses alone would have been enough? It is like discussing about the theory of relativity with a 3 years old child You can't argue because it simply can't understand.
Huh? The second camera is determining the distance between objects. You don't have to TAKE photo for it to know. Where are you from? The 70s? The very second you open camera app the sensor already see what lens see and Image Processor is already calculating the distance and applying masks and rendering blurs. That's why you can LIVE VIEW the blur in Portrait mode. Another feature Samsung can't do.
You don't know about all these? LMAO!
Then claiming there is no simulation of blurring in iPhone
Please point to me where I said this. You don't even know who posted what. Your ramblings is cringety.
Can't be Fandroids if not stupid. This is so true. LMAO!!
The blur in Selective focus is not the same as portrait mode. Apple's already can create the same effect as Selective focus' blurriness since iPhone 5. This is the portrait mode as seen below, note the sharpness of the object against the highly depth of field effect at the background. This kind of photo only can be captured with multiple lens taking the object and background separately similar to DSLR.
Thank you for a superb post. I think you just gobsmacked a bunch of silly fandroids. Hopefully, they'll just put their tail between their legs and go away (but I somehow doubt it)...
You have no clue about either phone's technology. Try to understand my response to Kevin. Maybe you'll get it, but I doubt. I hope you don't commit suicide just because Apple copies Samsung this time:) Believe me neither Sammy nor Apple care about such fans like you.
Samsung's gimmick Selective Focus isn't the same as iPhone Portrait mode. Have you ever used DSLR? The way you're talking is like someone who doesn't understand photography at all.
Actually I can't believe how stupid some fans can respond! Why do you respond at all if you have no, really no clou what you are talking about? Did you understand my explanation above? Are you aware of the fact hat Selective Focus or Portrait Mode are just simulating the blurring because their lenses cannot do the same physically. How old are you? The way you respond is just stupid! Simply unbelievable!
LOL. Selective Focus simulates blurring? Really? Then why its blurring is so.. SHIT? If it simulates blurring, why does it need to take TWO images?
And you still didn't answer my simple question. Have you ever used DSLR?
Yes, I've been using DSLR, probably before you were born! Your answers indicate an age of 10, 12, 14?
You have proved again that you don't know how this blurring simulation works. Did you know that also iPhone takes two pictures to simulate this? No, you did not? Well, this is not surprising. Seriously if you don't want to disgrace yourself, just stop posting nonsense.
Then what lens did you use, or are using?
And no, iPhone didn't take two pictures. Only one (there is an original photo, and a post processed one that derives from it. No other photos taken. What for anyway?). It seems to me you are the one who have no clue. Please show me where another picture iPhone 7 Plus taking together with the original one for Portrait mode. If there is one you will be able to find it in Camera Roll. Quick, show me the proof!
It is just hopeless! What do you think what iPhone does with the second camera? Just because it is not presented to you it does not mean it is not used for taking a picture? And what do you think why iPhone needs a software which is still in beta if the lenses alone would have been enough? It is like discussing about the theory of relativity with a 3 years old child You can't argue because it simply can't understand.
Huh? The second camera is determining the distance between objects. You don't have to TAKE photo for it to know. Where are you from? The 70s? The very second you open camera app the sensor already see what lens see and Image Processor is already calculating the distance and applying masks and rendering blurs. That's why you can LIVE VIEW the blur in Portrait mode. Another feature Samsung can't do.
You don't know about all these? LMAO!
Then claiming there is no simulation of blurring in iPhone
Please point to me where I said this. You don't even know who posted what. Your ramblings is cringety.
Can't be Fandroids if not stupid. This is so true. LMAO!!
Come on! Don't cry like a girl! Just accept you told lots of BS.
Where I said "there is no simulation of blurring in iPhone"? You can't find it, right?
LMAO!!!!!
Keeps digging, pal. Keeps digging yourself into a hole....
I just got my iPhone 7 Plus on Monday and I updated as part of setup. Everything is working fine, including the Portrait mode. I took a photo of my cat and it came out really nicely.
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Firstly: a DSLR does not take multiple pictures from the object and background. A DSLR works only optically! The focal length and some other aspects define the blurring effect.
Secondly: Selective Focus is not what iPhone 5 can do. As you correctly indicated you have to take at least two images. And this is exactly what Selective Focus does: it takes two images. Thanks to Galaxy S7's lightning focusing this works very good. It takes one image focused on the object and one focused on the backgroud. The rest is pure image processing.
This is also the reason why Pan Focus of Selective Focus is possible at all. If Selective Focus just takes one image, it would not be possible to focus on the background via image processing afterwards.
Therefore Apple's portrait mode is in principle a copy of the Selective Focus and nothing else.
The difference is that Apple's image processing do a bit mnore "blurring".
But let us look at advantages and disadvantages:
- Two cameras allow better blurring in case of moving objects since bith pictures are shot at the same time
- Unfortunately Apple use two different cameras with different focal lengths and from slightly different angles. I think this is what makes the image processing harder.
- In case of Galaxys, both pictures have the same camera with the same angle,
If Samsung follows LG and Huawei, as Apple did, the next S8 could have two cameras as well. Maybe Samsung uses alternatively twice the same camera in order to allow stereo pictures.
Did you understand my explanation above? Are you aware of the fact hat Selective Focus or Portrait Mode are just simulating the blurring because their lenses cannot do the same physically. How old are you? The way you respond is just stupid! Simply unbelievable!
LOL. Selective Focus simulates blurring? Really? Then why its blurring is so.. SHIT?
If it simulates blurring, why does it need to take TWO images?
And you still didn't answer my simple question. Have you ever used DSLR?
You have proved again that you don't know how this blurring simulation works. Did you know that also iPhone takes two pictures to simulate this? No, you did not? Well, this is not surprising. Seriously if you don't want to disgrace yourself, just stop posting nonsense.
And no, iPhone didn't take two pictures. Only one (there is an original photo, and a post processed one that derives from it. No other photos taken. What for anyway?). It seems to me you are the one who have no clue.
Please show me where another picture iPhone 7 Plus taking together with the original one for Portrait mode. If there is one you will be able to find it in Camera Roll. Quick, show me the proof!
The iPhone 7 Plus is simulating background blur in Portrait mode. Samsung, however, has no capability for it.
A DSLR creates such effects optically, out of the box. iPhones or Galaxys can't do that. They need image processing.
The foloowing is a simplistic description:
Both phones need to make two images. One image focuses on the object in front and one image focuses on the background. The image processing software takes both pictures and compares them. Only because of the second image with a different focus the software can 'separate' the area of the object in front from the background. Once done, it blurs the background. Or in case of Galaxy it even mixes two focused areas (Pan Focus).
Look, if the two lenses were alone enough, what would be the reason for Apple to work on the software? It is all about the software and two images.
And what do you think why iPhone needs a software which is still in beta if the lenses alone would have been enough? It is like discussing about the theory of relativity with a 3 years old child You can't argue because it simply can't understand.
Huh? The second camera, together with the first one, helps determining the distance between objects. You don't have to TAKE photos for it to do that. Where are you from? The 70s?
The very second you open camera app the sensor already see what lens see and Image Processor is already calculating the distance and applying masks and rendering blurs. That's why you can LIVE VIEW the blur in Portrait mode. Another feature Samsung can't do.
You don't know about all these?
LMAO!
You can't be Fandroids if you're not stupid, that's for sure.
Then claiming there is no simulation of blurring in iPhone and later you admitted in another post! Maybe you have googled it up in the meantime? Next time you should google first before you post! Whether Samsung has a live portrait mode or not, the concept is the same. Taking a picture and processing it in memory is no difference to taking a picture and saving it on the internal memory. It is the same concept.
As I mentioned you have proved several times to have no clue. I know it is hard to accept for a die-hard fan, buto sorry, the first one with the effect was Samsung. I hope you can live with that.
Please point to me where I said this.
You don't even know who posted what. Your ramblings is cringety.
Can't be Fandroids if not stupid. This is so true. LMAO!!
Where I said "there is no simulation of blurring in iPhone"? You can't find it, right?
LMAO!!!!!
Keeps digging, pal. Keeps digging yourself into a hole....