I really love Touch ID. For me, it works like magic. Unfortunately, some people (like, ahem, my parents) don't use it, because they tried to use it a few times when either their phone or their finger was wet or dirty, so it didn't work, and they got frustrated and never used it again.
To make it 100% perfect, Apple needs to find a way to make it work even when it's a little less clean. I don't mind wiping mine off once in a while, but some people just get flustered when things don't work, and assume it's the fault of some unsurmountable flaw in the device.
And how would this work in the dark and without disturbing others in e.g. a cinema, or in the bedroom?
If you're wearing sunglasses, or a Halloween costume, you have to enter your security code.
Then I'd prefer touchID.
On another note: to my knowledge, facial recognition uses something like 15 features of a face, but requires only three of them to identify a face with sufficient accuracy. E.g. Wearing sunglasses does not prevent police from identifying you for a speeding ticket at all.
What is to stop a person from holding up a photo of a face to access someone else's phone? Are we talking about iris scanning to check my email? Anything 2-step is a nightmare for users. I thought the idea of progress and technology was to simplify the complicated not the opposite.
What is to stop a person from holding up a photo of a face to access someone else's phone?
From what I read Microsoft uses a RealSense camera in the Pro 4 which works in 3 dimension. I therefor don't believe a photo would work to trick it into unlocking. Apple bought a similar technology which I would assume they would use if there's any truth to this rumor to begin with.
I really love Touch ID. For me, it works like magic. Unfortunately, some people (like, ahem, my parents) don't use it, because they tried to use it a few times when either their phone or their finger was wet or dirty, so it didn't work, and they got frustrated and never used it again.
To make it 100% perfect, Apple needs to find a way to make it work even when it's a little less clean. I don't mind wiping mine off once in a while, but some people just get flustered when things don't work, and assume it's the fault of some unsurmountable flaw in the device.
Well then it has to go in he same direction as Qualcomm did with Sense ID. Sense ID is an ultrasonic scanner which are actually more accurate than capacitive scanners (which is what TouchID is) and is better when your finger is dirty or wet.
I really love Touch ID. For me, it works like magic. Unfortunately, some people (like, ahem, my parents) don't use it, because they tried to use it a few times when either their phone or their finger was wet or dirty, so it didn't work, and they got frustrated and never used it again.
To make it 100% perfect, Apple needs to find a way to make it work even when it's a little less clean. I don't mind wiping mine off once in a while, but some people just get flustered when things don't work, and assume it's the fault of some unsurmountable flaw in the device.
Well then it has to go in he same direction as Qualcomm did with Sense ID. Sense ID is an ultrasonic scanner which are actually more accurate than capacitive scanners (which is what TouchID is) and are better when your finger is dirty or wet.
...is this yet another incremental by design privacy creep in mac/ios? Is all fine as long as the 'good guys' are happy...? Why does Zuckerberg have tape on his webcam? Did it start with the iPhone & app store, with every purchase of interest and iPhone contact photo (contacts unknowing) buried somewhere in some Apple server database for future reference? Turning off iPhoto auto tagging or instant on (2016MBP) now requires terminal, and has secure erase been dropped from Disk First Aid, if one wants to part with a mac ?
I believe secure erase makes no sense with an SSD, since data isn't written in contiguous blocks and cannot be reconstructed as with a magnetic hard drive.
...is this yet another incremental by design privacy creep in mac/ios? Is all fine as long as the 'good guys' are happy...? Why does Zuckerberg have tape on his webcam? Did it start with the iPhone & app store, with every purchase of interest and iPhone contact photo (contacts unknowing) buried somewhere in some Apple server database for future reference? Turning off iPhoto auto tagging or instant on (2016MBP) now requires terminal, and has secure erase been dropped from Disk First Aid, if one wants to part with a mac ?
I believe secure erase makes no sense with an SSD, since data isn't written in contiguous blocks and cannot be reconstructed as with a magnetic hard drive.
Face recognition , iris scaning alone can be problematic.. in dark or situation where face or eyes may be covered etc..
So my bet is on both.. finger print and face
But i wish Apple would come up with a system of finger print detection where wet or slightly moist finger could still be identified..
very often i find myself typing pass code becouse the fingerprint thing will not work. .
Does anyone else not see this as a huge step back in security? Two factor authentication should be something you have and something you know- you have your face or your fingerprint and you know your passcode. If it is two things you have, you can be forced to unlock your phone purely by being made to press your finger on the home button and showing your face to the phone. Criminals and the police will love the warrantless access this will give them. Thanks but no thanks!
Since both my fingerprint and face identity are theoretically unique to me and me alone, having two forms of bodily identification is redundant and unnecessary. There is nothing to be gained from needing a face and a fingerprint. Maybe either/or depending on the specific use at the time.
What is to stop a person from holding up a photo of a face to access someone else's phone? Are we talking about iris scanning to check my email? Anything 2-step is a nightmare for users. I thought the idea of progress and technology was to simplify the complicated not the opposite.
Why don't we wait until it's real and the actual implementation sucks before criticizing it? Not as much fun, I know.
Face recognition is the term used to describe the process of identifying a specific person, such as from a database of known persons (no fly list, for example). This is face recognition.
There's also face detection, which is the process of detecting the elements of a human face within a scene. This is typically a precursor to application of face recognition algorithms, used to identify the owner of a face in a scene.
Then there's facial recognition, which is the process of detecting specific facial expressions (smiling, frowning, sadness, etc). This term is often used in the medical world to characterize specific inabilities of patients to recognize meaning in human faces. Or, I suppose, one could use the term facial recognition to mean the detection of someone who has recently come from a spa treatment appointment. (Kidding.)
Folks who incorrectly use the term facial recognition will find themselves finally corrected once Apple introduces some form of face detection and face recognition on stage in a product introduction. Until that day I'm afraid folks will continue to use the wrong term to describe face recognition. Those who want to be certain of the correct term to use now should do a google search of the huge body of research on the topic, where they will find that all technical papers refer to face recognition as defined above.
I am afraid this is as likely to change as the correct term for describing typefaces. People use the term font where typeface is the correct term -- in fact it was Apple that misused the term initially at the intro of the Mac and LaserWriter. The terms are not interchangeable although most now take the two to mean the same thing.
I cannot speak for others, but I really do not give a rip about a display that covers the entire front of the phone. The nicest feature Apple could include is a Touch ID that actually works.
I have fairly dry skin as a result of Hypothyroid (treated with Synthroid) and working in the Medical field (lots and lots of hand washing and gloves that dry the skin). The Touch ID has never consistently worked for me since my bout with Autoimmune Thyroiditis and I doubt I am the only one.
The AuthenTec technology Apple bought up for patents used contacts and actually still works- unlike the tech used on the iPhone. Apple shuttered the company and took the software with it- Macs running older version of OS X can use it and it still works on Windows.
For my money Apple can get rid of the front facing camera among other things.
What is to stop a person from holding up a photo of a face to access someone else's phone? Are we talking about iris scanning to check my email? Anything 2-step is a nightmare for users. I thought the idea of progress and technology was to simplify the complicated not the opposite.
I'm guessing it will build a 3D map of your face. Probably the reason Apple bought that face mapping company a while back. I'd say they will probably put 2 cameras on the front of their devices also.
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To make it 100% perfect, Apple needs to find a way to make it work even when it's a little less clean. I don't mind wiping mine off once in a while, but some people just get flustered when things don't work, and assume it's the fault of some unsurmountable flaw in the device.
On another note: to my knowledge, facial recognition uses something like 15 features of a face, but requires only three of them to identify a face with sufficient accuracy. E.g. Wearing sunglasses does not prevent police from identifying you for a speeding ticket at all.
A helloween costume is a different animal, though
We'll have to see if it fits in an iPhone.
I am afraid this is as likely to change as the correct term for describing typefaces. People use the term font where typeface is the correct term -- in fact it was Apple that misused the term initially at the intro of the Mac and LaserWriter. The terms are not interchangeable although most now take the two to mean the same thing.
http://fontfeed.com/archives/font-or-typeface/
I have fairly dry skin as a result of Hypothyroid (treated with Synthroid) and working in the Medical field (lots and lots of hand washing and gloves that dry the skin). The Touch ID has never consistently worked for me since my bout with Autoimmune Thyroiditis and I doubt I am the only one.
The AuthenTec technology Apple bought up for patents used contacts and actually still works- unlike the tech used on the iPhone. Apple shuttered the company and took the software with it- Macs running older version of OS X can use it and it still works on Windows.
For my money Apple can get rid of the front facing camera among other things.