Alleged Apple molds show expected 'iPhone 8' design next to '7s' and '7s Plus'

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  • Reply 21 of 57
    bluefire1bluefire1 Posts: 1,318member
    Latest shopping list for 2017:
    Siri Speaker
    MacBook Pro
    iPhone 8/ Edition
    Apple Watch 3
    Wish they would update their Airport Extreme (or build it into the Siri Speaker).
    As for the iPad, sticking with my Mini 4. 
    edited May 2017
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  • Reply 22 of 57
    radarthekatradarthekat Posts: 3,943moderator
    jr7921 said:
    I have a bad feeling about the iPhone 8. I think there's gonna be lots of problems when it comes out. 
    Problems for any Android vendor trying to sell premium-priced smartphones. 
    redgeminipamike1bb-15
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  • Reply 23 of 57
    lorin schultzlorin schultz Posts: 2,771member
    jr7921 said:
    I have a bad feeling about the iPhone 8. I think there's gonna be lots of problems when it comes out. 
    I think I want one if the rumours are accurate, but it does seem like there's a risk of unexpected issues. Things like putting the Home button in the display make it kind of a Version 1.0 product. I'll probably risk it, but might wait a few months to see if there are any show-stopper problems. I probably won't have any choice. The waiting list will be a few months long!
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  • Reply 24 of 57
    kenh26kenh26 Posts: 15member
    kamilton said:
    Not convinced this is accurate news. iPhone Anniversary Edition will be Liquid Metal frame.
    I agree if the iPhone 8 is a glass sandwich why would it use a similar mould to the aluminium iPhone 7? And why on the second photo would the edges be square (like the iPhone 5) when it's supposed to be a smoothly flowing rounded form.
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  • Reply 25 of 57
    kenh26 said:
    kamilton said:
    Not convinced this is accurate news. iPhone Anniversary Edition will be Liquid Metal frame.
    I agree if the iPhone 8 is a glass sandwich why would it use a similar mould to the aluminium iPhone 7? And why on the second photo would the edges be square (like the iPhone 5) when it's supposed to be a smoothly flowing rounded form.
    Apple wouldn't use aluminum for a glass sandwich iPhone. It'll either be Liquid Metal or steel (iPhone 4/4s). As for being squared off, it should be perfectly square with 90º edges, as the glass will have the curvature. 

    There are a few things about these "moulds" that don't seem quite right. How, exactly are these moulds? These almost look like what would come out of a mould, except the camera protrudes are inverted. It would look more believable if these were dished out, instead of the sides going down, and everything in reverse. 
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  • Reply 26 of 57
    maestro64maestro64 Posts: 5,043member
    Folks, these things do not look like anything Apple make our contracted any of their manufacturers to make. These look like something a iPhone case manufacturer put together based on all the rumors. It is no evidence of Apple doing anything.
    radarthekatlongpathdewme
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  • Reply 27 of 57
    macplusplusmacplusplus Posts: 2,119member
    jr7921 said:
    I have a bad feeling about the iPhone 8. I think there's gonna be lots of problems when it comes out. 
    I think I want one if the rumours are accurate, but it does seem like there's a risk of unexpected issues. Things like putting the Home button in the display make it kind of a Version 1.0 product. I'll probably risk it, but might wait a few months to see if there are any show-stopper problems. I probably won't have any choice. The waiting list will be a few months long!
    A home button embedded in the display is very unlikely. The home button functions may be provided by the bottom bezel by means of 3D Touch. A fingerprint scanner embedded in the display is very imaginable. That wouldn't interfere with the normal touch operations since the display's fingerprint scanning mode can be triggered or disabled via the software.
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  • Reply 28 of 57
    If this is an accurate rendition of the iPhone X / 8 the width is the same as the 7s. That means if they lose the top and bottom the screen won't the screen ratio be different? That would seem to be real fragmentation. That's the only way I can see a significantly larger screen in that size shell. 
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  • Reply 29 of 57
    radarthekatradarthekat Posts: 3,943moderator
    If this is an accurate rendition of the iPhone X / 8 the width is the same as the 7s. That means if they lose the top and bottom the screen won't the screen ratio be different? That would seem to be real fragmentation. That's the only way I can see a significantly larger screen in that size shell. 
    It's not the same width.  See my earlier comment (comment #18).
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  • Reply 30 of 57
    macplusplusmacplusplus Posts: 2,119member
    jr7921 said:
    I have a bad feeling about the iPhone 8. I think there's gonna be lots of problems when it comes out. 
    Absolutely... If you let it to be designed by a public like that, case makers, hobbyist model makers, jobless blogosphere residents...
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  • Reply 31 of 57
    ksecksec Posts: 1,569member
    fallenjt said:
    The iphone 8 lens moulding seems to protrude, the others do not? 
    Probably. Look like 7s/s+ will finally get rid of the protrude.
    iPhoneX may be just a special edition with 1 piece of back glass. I doubt Apple will call it iPhone 8. Looks like it's 5.2-5.3" screen with very narrow top and bottom bezels. I don't believe Apple will make edge to edge screen at all but something similar to current iPhone 7/7+. 
    Was going to make the same comment about the name of the phone.  IPhone 8 seems terribly unlikely; it would automatically imply the 7s/7s+ Are instantly out of date.  This new model will likely be a parallel track, similar to the SE, which doesn't have a model number designation.  iPhone Edition would be my first guess.  iPhone Pro is a tempting guess, but implies it's for some type of professional user, either enterprise or freelance professionals, like a photographer.  So I think there's too much baggage with the Pro moniker.  Edition seems just right.

    And this would be the time also to drop the numbering for the main iPhone line.  So this year I could see:

    iPhone Edition
    iPhone +
    iPhone
    iPhone SE
    Not having the 8 when 8 is an lucky number in China? Courage.

    But if it is time to drop the number, then this is basically Apple saying what you are having now is good enough for long time, and (foresee) the upgrade cycle will slow to 36 months from the current 26 - 30 Months. It is also a sign that Apple is confidence people are sticking to their Ecosystem.

    And with most carrier now opting to separate the cost of the Phone to phone bill. ( Mostly US and Asia, Not sure on EU as a whole )  I am not sure if people are willing to go for the Edition route. 

    I have always fantasize the day there is Apple as a Services. Where you pay a monthly fees, and you get an Apple MNVO, iPhone, iCloud, Apple Music, all in one. With Apple Pay payment going direct on the same bill each month.    

    I cant wait to see how they play it out.    
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  • Reply 32 of 57
    rogifan_newrogifan_new Posts: 4,297member
    I hope the protruding camera isn't silver like that which would just accentuate it. That's one thing I like about the 7 - the way Apple made the camera bump blend in better. This just sticks out like a sore thumb.
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  • Reply 33 of 57
    macplusplusmacplusplus Posts: 2,119member
    I hope the protruding camera isn't silver like that which would just accentuate it. That's one thing I like about the 7 - the way Apple made the camera bump blend in better. This just sticks out like a sore thumb.
    The molds above are for cases and the middle one is produced apparently from allegedly leaked schematics. The two other molds are exact copies of the originals because they know what the originals look like. Since they don't know the exact appearance of the new iPhone, the middle one is only an approximation with a crude bump. That protrusion  from within a hole in the glass back may make sense only if the new iPhone is as thin as the current models which would cause the stainless steel frame to be very thin, about 3-4 mm, which is very unlikely because a frame this thin would not protect front and back casings from drops. Remember the thickness of the frame in iPhone 4. The best design we can imagine for a glass back is camera flush with the glass like the iPhone 4's.
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  • Reply 34 of 57
    fallenjt said:
    micaside said:
    cali said:
    I don't see Apple making all 3 camera lenses sit differently. Way too much fragmentation between designs.

    What happened to the whole "vertical cameras for better landscape mode" argument for the biggest model?

    I'm hoping Apple engineers are figuring out how to make dual lenses sit in one simple circular enclosure or disappear altogether.(anything is possible)
    What I personally don't like is how small the iPhone 8 is! I was shocked seeing how it's going to be the same size as the 7s! I'm just use to big phones! I which apple could make a plus size iPhone 8! Idk but I thought since the 7 plus was the best seller last year,  Apple would of known to make a bigger size iPhone 8! And with the note 8 coming around with the same camera set up and the edge to edge screen and bigger is better, I just don't know what apple is achieving
    Then you're not paying attention. They're achieving a physical size only slightly larger than the 7s but with a screen thats actually larger than the 7 Plus (including the touch bar area).
    You want to bet on that? I say the new iPhone won't be anywhere near 7+ size but sits in between 7 and 7+. My bet is 5.2 - 5.3". Apple can reduce top and bottom bezels only, and not much on the size. So, to retain the 16:9 aspect ratio, they just can't reduce only top/bottom but all bezels around too, but it appears that the phone screen is just a little larger than 7. If you want to be at 7+ size, the width must be the same visually as 7+. However, the picture above doesn't support that.
    There is nothing to bet on. It will be 5.8" display with .7" dedicated to virtual buttons. This already known.
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  • Reply 35 of 57
    jr7921 said:
    I have a bad feeling about the iPhone 8. I think there's gonna be lots of problems when it comes out. 
    I think I want one if the rumours are accurate, but it does seem like there's a risk of unexpected issues. Things like putting the Home button in the display make it kind of a Version 1.0 product. I'll probably risk it, but might wait a few months to see if there are any show-stopper problems. I probably won't have any choice. The waiting list will be a few months long!
    A home button embedded in the display is very unlikely. 
    What are you talking about? The iPhone 7 is already halfway there. They've already established the non-physical button. It is already a sensor+3D touch+haptic feedback solid state part of the cover glass. The hard part was getting that right. The feel of it will be imperceptibly different on the 8....pushing glass, getting feedback.

    All they are doing is adding a display layer to it, so that they can show a virtual button.
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  • Reply 36 of 57
    macplusplusmacplusplus Posts: 2,119member
    jr7921 said:
    I have a bad feeling about the iPhone 8. I think there's gonna be lots of problems when it comes out. 
    I think I want one if the rumours are accurate, but it does seem like there's a risk of unexpected issues. Things like putting the Home button in the display make it kind of a Version 1.0 product. I'll probably risk it, but might wait a few months to see if there are any show-stopper problems. I probably won't have any choice. The waiting list will be a few months long!
    A home button embedded in the display is very unlikely. 
    What are you talking about? The iPhone 7 is already halfway there. They've already established the non-physical button. It is already a sensor+3D touch+haptic feedback solid state part of the cover glass. The hard part was getting that right. The feel of it will be imperceptibly different on the 8....pushing glass, getting feedback.

    All they are doing is adding a display layer to it, so that they can show a virtual button.
    If you think that your virtual button will be a "button" shaped icon, no, that won't happen. That's Android. The most plausible design will be a "function area" below the display and within the bezel. What I say is the whole bottom bezel will act as the home button. Is that too hard to understand?
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  • Reply 37 of 57
    onlyone8onlyone8 Posts: 1member
    I really hope that the iPhone 8 is going to be something extraordinary. Up to now I have found iphones wanting as the 3,4 & 5 were ridiculous, small and plain boring. The 6 a clone of the Android devices was a step in the right direction but it just doesn't do it for me. The 7 is a slight improvement though still boring and not on par with the more popular Android offerings. I find that Apple just can't keep up with the market leaders. The Samsung juggernaut just keeps on churning advancement after advancement and all Apple has done is add IP67 some 3 years later and zero upgradable storage. Are we going to see some classic Steve Jobs innovation in the iPhone 8? Just for the record in the country where I live iPhone enjoys less than 10% of market share with Samsung holding way above 50% over here and the balance shared by the other Android manufacturers including LG etc. I want to be inspired as I was as a kid using a Mac for the first time and so far I have not been and am very keen to try out an iPhone.
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  • Reply 38 of 57
    aplnubaplnub Posts: 2,606member
    Smaller than the 7+ but same or close to same screen size? Sign me up!
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  • Reply 39 of 57
    palegolaspalegolas Posts: 1,362member
    cali said:
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    I'm hoping Apple engineers are figuring out how to make dual lenses sit in one simple circular enclosure or disappear altogether.(anything is possible)
    If liquid lenses could also zoom with liquid, it could be the solution for everything.

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  • Reply 40 of 57
    palegolaspalegolas Posts: 1,362member
    The rumoured high price, Would probably track back to some expensive new technology, I guess? Any insight on what makes it supposedly so expensive?
    Fingerprint reader screen? Embedded camera in screen? Lytro light field camera? FaceTime depth cam? Fuel cell batteries? Inductive charging? Anti gravity mode?
    lorin schultz
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