Charity auction offers lunch with Eddy Cue at Apple Park

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  • Reply 21 of 24
    fastasleepfastasleep Posts: 6,448member
    I've got $10 towards a bid for Rogifan_new. 
  • Reply 22 of 24
    Rayz2016Rayz2016 Posts: 6,957member
    Rayz2016 said:
    Rayz2016 said:
    macxpress said:
    Maybe the winner will ask what he actually does at Apple...
    Doesn't he run their fastest growing division?
    I hate to disparage well-meaning people, but he just so happens to be the person overseeing Apple's largest weak points. The deficits in some services are extremely frustrating in contrast to Apple's amazing hardware and core software. It seems that any wins in regards to services are likely being carried by the hardware/OS, which compensates for the deficits in services. It's hard not to notice a pattern, and these are all significant issues:

    -fumbled Apple Maps deployment and initial (prolonged) development by myopic lack of looking outside of his personal bubble of the bay area. This is something that he, surprisingly, openly admitted to. This is also something that didn't seem to get sufficiently addressed until other execs stepped in. This is all according to that Apple-sanctioned story a while back.
    -app store development seemed to have a lot of issues until Phil took over, then there were rapid, positive changes.
    -the *enormous* lead of Siri, which left competitors completely flat-footed, seems to have been significantly squandered. Various functions kept being added, while the basic functionality seemed to be ignored.
    -ongoing lack of sufficient content, contracted or original. It doesn't show great judgement to be wearing sneakers, no socks, and a Hawaiian shirt to an executive meeting, that's barely passable attire for the continental breakfast at the Hawaiian Hilton.  ...
    -searching for anything, anywhere on an iOS device is still a huge chore, in mail especially, but even in maps, it only searches location titles, and doesn't even include searching for key words in the location descriptors (at least last time I checked)
    -apple pay seems like it could've been better promoted (nice to see the story that just came out on it today)
    -podcasts seems to be largely ignored, with promises for improvements, but little seems to be done. Seems like a huge missed opportunity for many years now.
    -Apple Music, while it has great qualities, seems a bit off. Despite Apple being dominant in music, THERE IS STILL ALMOST NO SUPPORT FOR SUB GENRE CATEGORIZATION. McHammer is still in the same genre as a trance song. And if the personal profile they're finally (yes, finally) releasing doesn't allow for significant customization (beyond just listing playlists), it's going to be DOA. How does Apple not understand this by now??: If you give people enough tools for self-expression, they will go crazy with it. Just look at the popularity of facebook. However, if you don't provide that personal customization, people won't use it. Apple seems much too focused on telling people what to listen to rather than facilitating their own personal tastes. Which is really strange, because 1) Apple's ethos in hardware and software is to 'get out of the way of the user' and 2) music is something that is extremely personal and subjective. People need facilitation more than they need outside curation (which seems more and more to be an unattainable holy grail, rather than a practical goal).
    Right, so does he run Apple's fastest growing division or not?
    I already addressed your comment in my third sentence. And it seems fairly clear that I'm right. 

    That kind of fallacious logic seems like the type of thinking that would allow those (very avoidable) issues to become issues in the first place. How many years need to go by before something changes??? I don't know exactly what that something is, but I hope someone at Apple can figure it out sometime soon. 
    Nope, you actually made a list of personal complaints, none of which proved that he wasn't in charge of Apple's fastest growing division. 
    edited June 2017 ronn
  • Reply 23 of 24
    asdasdasdasd Posts: 5,686member
    Somebody has bid $120k for that. A determined and lavish bidder. I cant help but feel this meal is going to be a disappointment. Proably he will have to pay for the meal as well. 

    EDIT: Apparantly the meal is free. 
    edited June 2017
  • Reply 24 of 24
    Rayz2016 said:
    Rayz2016 said:
    Rayz2016 said:
    macxpress said:
    Maybe the winner will ask what he actually does at Apple...
    Doesn't he run their fastest growing division?
    I hate to disparage well-meaning people, but he just so happens to be the person overseeing Apple's largest weak points. The deficits in some services are extremely frustrating in contrast to Apple's amazing hardware and core software. It seems that any wins in regards to services are likely being carried by the hardware/OS, which compensates for the deficits in services. It's hard not to notice a pattern, and these are all significant issues:

    -fumbled Apple Maps deployment and initial (prolonged) development by myopic lack of looking outside of his personal bubble of the bay area. This is something that he, surprisingly, openly admitted to. This is also something that didn't seem to get sufficiently addressed until other execs stepped in. This is all according to that Apple-sanctioned story a while back.
    -app store development seemed to have a lot of issues until Phil took over, then there were rapid, positive changes.
    -the *enormous* lead of Siri, which left competitors completely flat-footed, seems to have been significantly squandered. Various functions kept being added, while the basic functionality seemed to be ignored.
    -ongoing lack of sufficient content, contracted or original. It doesn't show great judgement to be wearing sneakers, no socks, and a Hawaiian shirt to an executive meeting, that's barely passable attire for the continental breakfast at the Hawaiian Hilton.  ...
    -searching for anything, anywhere on an iOS device is still a huge chore, in mail especially, but even in maps, it only searches location titles, and doesn't even include searching for key words in the location descriptors (at least last time I checked)
    -apple pay seems like it could've been better promoted (nice to see the story that just came out on it today)
    -podcasts seems to be largely ignored, with promises for improvements, but little seems to be done. Seems like a huge missed opportunity for many years now.
    -Apple Music, while it has great qualities, seems a bit off. Despite Apple being dominant in music, THERE IS STILL ALMOST NO SUPPORT FOR SUB GENRE CATEGORIZATION. McHammer is still in the same genre as a trance song. And if the personal profile they're finally (yes, finally) releasing doesn't allow for significant customization (beyond just listing playlists), it's going to be DOA. How does Apple not understand this by now??: If you give people enough tools for self-expression, they will go crazy with it. Just look at the popularity of facebook. However, if you don't provide that personal customization, people won't use it. Apple seems much too focused on telling people what to listen to rather than facilitating their own personal tastes. Which is really strange, because 1) Apple's ethos in hardware and software is to 'get out of the way of the user' and 2) music is something that is extremely personal and subjective. People need facilitation more than they need outside curation (which seems more and more to be an unattainable holy grail, rather than a practical goal).
    Right, so does he run Apple's fastest growing division or not?
    I already addressed your comment in my third sentence. And it seems fairly clear that I'm right. 

    That kind of fallacious logic seems like the type of thinking that would allow those (very avoidable) issues to become issues in the first place. How many years need to go by before something changes??? I don't know exactly what that something is, but I hope someone at Apple can figure it out sometime soon. 
    Nope, you actually made a list of personal complaints, none of which proved that he wasn't in charge of Apple's fastest growing division. 
    Nope what? This kind of pointless arguing where you defeat a contrived straw man argument of mine while avoiding the actual points I'm making is the same thing that StrangeDays does...

    Why even bother making responses like that? It does nothing at all to strengthen your point or to weaken mine.

    And by the way, you're wrong. I listed many things that are more than just "personal complaints." Many of the things are known and accepted issues. If you don't agree with my overall point, that's your prerogative. But repeating over and over that services are the fastest growing sector doesn't really say much. 
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