<strong>so this rtevolutionary anounencement will be held at august 13? Or at MWNY?
I really hope you are right.I really hope so.
Can you be more specific at what is gonna be so revolutionary.New kind of computer.Holograms?WHAT????
If it's gonna be a new computer why announce the G4 models?So I bet it's something that connects to a computer.A peripheral.What's so exciting with a peripheral.
I hope you are right.But I doubt it...</strong><hr></blockquote>
I am talking about Wednesday. at MWNY!
Holograms?? What? Come on! We know that the government has been using them for years to hide alien bases. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
Believe me or don't I don't care. This is just too exciting to keep secret. Think .MAC, as a certain site has mentioned. too bad they don't know a tenth of what we are planning. You have of course seen and heard about Micros$%!'s .NET strategy? Well strip out all the bullshit, and you have a basically (gulp) good plan regarding ubiquitous computing. Your e-mail, applications, calendar, data, etc. (AND MORE) all available through a system more secure than your average desktop system. iTools was just the beginning.
The basic story starts here:
The first phase of the information age is over. That first phase consisted of radicl expansion of storage, and processing of information. Raw, data. Think about how much crap you have sitting on your hard drive. photos, letters, e-mail, videos, etc. This stuff would have just b een sitting around your house in boxes, all over the place. To be able to store it and organize it on your pc is revolutionary.
We are now entering the second golden age of the information age. Now that (for the most part) everyone has computers, and a whole mess of data stored on them, what do you do with it? How does it make your life easier? Today we work almost twice as much, and as hard doing twice as many things, as we did in say, 1950. Is that because of computers (good or bad) or in spite of them?
What Steve will be talking about is a new philosophy on the computer's place in our society, and how to move it from another thing in our homes, to a tool we use without even thinking about it, and using it to do things that actually do what computers were intended to do in the first place! - Make life easier by taking all the crappy annoying things and just doing them for us.
Trust me, you won't want to miss Steve's keynote. Tell your friends, tell their friends, tell your parent, tell your kids, tell your freaking grandma!
It is not a peripheral or a computer, it's a whole new perspective on using computers. Manipulating Photoshop files is NOTHING, child's play. Real time editing digital video is so DONE.
Inkwell tablet, GIVE ME A BREAK!</strong><hr></blockquote>
weeeee.... canyon has made these forums fun to read again. Even if her info is a load of dung... It's still fun... (btw: Canyon, I don't think you are full of dung)
I can believe the second processor BTO thing... apple has done it before.
[quote]Originally posted by canyon24:<strong>It is not a peripheral or a computer, it's a whole new perspective on using computers.</strong><hr></blockquote>
What Steve will be talking about is a new philosophy on the computer's place in our society, and how to move it from another thing in our homes, to a tool we use without even thinking about it, and using it to do things that actually do what computers were intended to do in the first place!</strong><hr></blockquote>
But this has been a progressive strategy at Apple already which started, of course, with iTools. The first tip was having your iDisk mount on your HD, then X hooks pretty seamlessly to your mac.com account. iPhoto then hooks in nicely. And your iDisk clearly parallels your home directory structure. Apple provides the ability to log into an OS X Server so that you can do all your storage remotely and have everything carry from workstation to workstation. In Jag we see storage controls and sharing features through your iTools account.
None of this is new (at least to me). iChat clearly will hook in, as will Rendezvous. So this will only continue on. But... so far, no 3rd parties have been participating in this. Further, due to small storage allocation from Apple (yes, you can buy more, and yes, it's very expensive) you can't do much with photo storage, movies, and iTools only works as a server - not as a conduit, so I can't stream content through my iTools account.
Solve these problems and open up APIs to 3rd parties and then we're getting somewhere. It's easy to underestimate the scale of this challenge, however.
You just might have a piece of the puzzle. Too bad ou don't. We have had tv on the mac for years now. My old PM8600 had composite in, and I could record direct to my HD. So, while obvious improvements have been made, and the Eye TV is an awesome product (I worked with them on it briefly) it is not an Apple directive. A set top box is not the direction Steve has focused the company. While we have, and will continue to work with other developing such devices, and implementing QT standards for streaming, recording, and live videocasting ( Hi Grandma!) Apple has no plans or intentions to develop a set top box, at least as anyone has described it.
Well, first they confirmed all towers would be in excess of 1.2ghz, read-every tower faster then 1.2ghz. Now they are confirming that all towers will at least be 1.2ghz, read- 1.2ghz as the top end.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Huh?
"At least 1.2GHz" means 1.2GHz is the low end (rephrase: 1.2GHz at the least, meaning that every other possibility is more than 1.2GHz). "At most 1.2GHz" would mean it's the top end.
If you think something will take at least 3 days to process, do you expect it to take up to 3 days?
What Steve will be talking about is a new philosophy on the computer's place in our society, and how to move it from another thing in our homes, to a tool we use without even thinking about it, and using it to do things that actually do what computers were intended to do in the first place! - Make life easier by taking all the crappy annoying things and just doing them for us.
Trust me, you won't want to miss Steve's keynote. Tell your friends, tell their friends, tell your parent, tell your kids, tell your freaking grandma!
:eek: </strong><hr></blockquote>
It's Reality Distortion Field Implants for everyone! iBorg for the masses! Hooray!
Canyon wants everyone to go to the keynote because we're on to Steve and the first iBorg Implants will be lurking under the audiences' seats. Look out Microsoft! We're gonna be lurching slowly at ya! <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
Ok, that's silly. Anyone up for network meshes, a pile of web services, and a secure way to access your desktop harddrive from anywhere?
If your personal RDF and my personal RDF overlap, do the fields reinforce or cancel out?
Inquiring minds need to know. </strong><hr></blockquote>
Of course they would have to double in intensity. Otherwise you could use other people's RDFs to cancel each other out and figure out what was really going on. Steve would never allow that!!!
Maybe Hi-def tv on the mac - why the big deal about the "hi-def" monitor? Or is that just hype for people who don't really know much? Lots of monitors have the resolution to display hi-def - not just the "hi-def" flat panel display... Who knows?
I wish people would bitch more about DDR memory and and faster bus than this testosterone fueled mhz crap. The duel processors are plenty fast and unless DDR and bus are jacked up a 10ghz G4 would still suck. In fact I will start a post about it.
It is not a peripheral or a computer, it's a whole new perspective on using computers. Manipulating Photoshop files is NOTHING, child's play. Real time editing digital video is so DONE.
Inkwell tablet, GIVE ME A BREAK!</strong><hr></blockquote>
Cool!!! We finally get the IMAX GUI that I have been wishing for and 3D glasses with the Apple 3D cinema displays or just use the new Apple brand headsets for the real 3D affect!!
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<strong>so this rtevolutionary anounencement will be held at august 13? Or at MWNY?
I really hope you are right.I really hope so.
Can you be more specific at what is gonna be so revolutionary.New kind of computer.Holograms?WHAT????
If it's gonna be a new computer why announce the G4 models?So I bet it's something that connects to a computer.A peripheral.What's so exciting with a peripheral.
I hope you are right.But I doubt it...</strong><hr></blockquote>
I am talking about Wednesday. at MWNY!
Holograms?? What? Come on! We know that the government has been using them for years to hide alien bases. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
Believe me or don't I don't care. This is just too exciting to keep secret. Think .MAC, as a certain site has mentioned. too bad they don't know a tenth of what we are planning. You have of course seen and heard about Micros$%!'s .NET strategy? Well strip out all the bullshit, and you have a basically (gulp) good plan regarding ubiquitous computing. Your e-mail, applications, calendar, data, etc. (AND MORE) all available through a system more secure than your average desktop system. iTools was just the beginning.
The basic story starts here:
The first phase of the information age is over. That first phase consisted of radicl expansion of storage, and processing of information. Raw, data. Think about how much crap you have sitting on your hard drive. photos, letters, e-mail, videos, etc. This stuff would have just b een sitting around your house in boxes, all over the place. To be able to store it and organize it on your pc is revolutionary.
We are now entering the second golden age of the information age. Now that (for the most part) everyone has computers, and a whole mess of data stored on them, what do you do with it? How does it make your life easier? Today we work almost twice as much, and as hard doing twice as many things, as we did in say, 1950. Is that because of computers (good or bad) or in spite of them?
<img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
What Steve will be talking about is a new philosophy on the computer's place in our society, and how to move it from another thing in our homes, to a tool we use without even thinking about it, and using it to do things that actually do what computers were intended to do in the first place! - Make life easier by taking all the crappy annoying things and just doing them for us.
Trust me, you won't want to miss Steve's keynote. Tell your friends, tell their friends, tell your parent, tell your kids, tell your freaking grandma!
:eek:
<strong>
NO NO NO NO !!!!!
It is not a peripheral or a computer, it's a whole new perspective on using computers. Manipulating Photoshop files is NOTHING, child's play. Real time editing digital video is so DONE.
Inkwell tablet, GIVE ME A BREAK!</strong><hr></blockquote>
weeeee.... canyon has made these forums fun to read again. Even if her info is a load of dung... It's still fun... (btw: Canyon, I don't think you are full of dung)
I can believe the second processor BTO thing... apple has done it before.
[ 07-12-2002: Message edited by: Blizaine ]</p>
Ok, I'm calling you on this.
Here's <a href="http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=002053"; target="_blank">my take</a> on your hints along with other things presented here, and what I think Apple is capable of and interested in doing.
<strong>
What Steve will be talking about is a new philosophy on the computer's place in our society, and how to move it from another thing in our homes, to a tool we use without even thinking about it, and using it to do things that actually do what computers were intended to do in the first place!</strong><hr></blockquote>
But this has been a progressive strategy at Apple already which started, of course, with iTools. The first tip was having your iDisk mount on your HD, then X hooks pretty seamlessly to your mac.com account. iPhoto then hooks in nicely. And your iDisk clearly parallels your home directory structure. Apple provides the ability to log into an OS X Server so that you can do all your storage remotely and have everything carry from workstation to workstation. In Jag we see storage controls and sharing features through your iTools account.
None of this is new (at least to me). iChat clearly will hook in, as will Rendezvous. So this will only continue on. But... so far, no 3rd parties have been participating in this. Further, due to small storage allocation from Apple (yes, you can buy more, and yes, it's very expensive) you can't do much with photo storage, movies, and iTools only works as a server - not as a conduit, so I can't stream content through my iTools account.
Solve these problems and open up APIs to 3rd parties and then we're getting somewhere. It's easy to underestimate the scale of this challenge, however.
I'm all for enthusiasm but the setup for disappointment is growing.
Screed ...canyon24 = kormac7x with better diction
[ 07-12-2002: Message edited by: sCreeD ]</p>
<a href="http://www.apple.mac"; target="_blank">www.apple.mac</a>
.MAC, and so much more.
I already have moonraker.mac lined up
<strong>[snip]
I'm all for enthusiasm but the setup for disappointment is growing.
Screed ...canyon24 = kormac7x with better diction
[ 07-12-2002: Message edited by: sCreeD ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
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Actually, read that second one as "at least 1.2gHz for the low-end"...not the top-end.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Good catch, i meant 'up to' not at least.
<strong>
Ok, I'm calling you on this.
Here's <a href="http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=002053"; target="_blank">my take</a> on your hints along with other things presented here, and what I think Apple is capable of and interested in doing.</strong><hr></blockquote>
You just might have a piece of the puzzle. Too bad ou don't. We have had tv on the mac for years now. My old PM8600 had composite in, and I could record direct to my HD. So, while obvious improvements have been made, and the Eye TV is an awesome product (I worked with them on it briefly) it is not an Apple directive. A set top box is not the direction Steve has focused the company. While we have, and will continue to work with other developing such devices, and implementing QT standards for streaming, recording, and live videocasting ( Hi Grandma!) Apple has no plans or intentions to develop a set top box, at least as anyone has described it.
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Well, first they confirmed all towers would be in excess of 1.2ghz, read-every tower faster then 1.2ghz. Now they are confirming that all towers will at least be 1.2ghz, read- 1.2ghz as the top end.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Huh?
"At least 1.2GHz" means 1.2GHz is the low end (rephrase: 1.2GHz at the least, meaning that every other possibility is more than 1.2GHz). "At most 1.2GHz" would mean it's the top end.
If you think something will take at least 3 days to process, do you expect it to take up to 3 days?
[ 07-12-2002: Message edited by: Amorph ]</p>
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amen to that!!!!! i would have a new pmg4 already if the DP was BTO across the line. its horrible that Apple stopped doing it. bring it back steve.
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What Steve will be talking about is a new philosophy on the computer's place in our society, and how to move it from another thing in our homes, to a tool we use without even thinking about it, and using it to do things that actually do what computers were intended to do in the first place! - Make life easier by taking all the crappy annoying things and just doing them for us.
Trust me, you won't want to miss Steve's keynote. Tell your friends, tell their friends, tell your parent, tell your kids, tell your freaking grandma!
:eek: </strong><hr></blockquote>
It's Reality Distortion Field Implants for everyone! iBorg for the masses! Hooray!
Canyon wants everyone to go to the keynote because we're on to Steve and the first iBorg Implants will be lurking under the audiences' seats. Look out Microsoft! We're gonna be lurching slowly at ya!
Ok, that's silly. Anyone up for network meshes, a pile of web services, and a secure way to access your desktop harddrive from anywhere?
<strong>
It's Reality Distortion Field Implants for everyone! iBorg for the masses! Hooray!
</strong><hr></blockquote>
I'll take two!
Barto
<strong>
a secure way to access your desktop harddrive from anywhere? </strong><hr></blockquote>
SSH?
You'd be surprised how useful that guy is...
And I dunno about you...I already have my iBorg implant...what's that Steve? Don't tell them about the new G5s?
<strong>It's Reality Distortion Field Implants for everyone! iBorg for the masses! Hooray!</strong><hr></blockquote>
If your personal RDF and my personal RDF overlap, do the fields reinforce or cancel out?
Inquiring minds need to know.
<strong>
If your personal RDF and my personal RDF overlap, do the fields reinforce or cancel out?
Inquiring minds need to know.
Of course they would have to double in intensity. Otherwise you could use other people's RDFs to cancel each other out and figure out what was really going on. Steve would never allow that!!!
<strong>
NO NO NO NO !!!!!
It is not a peripheral or a computer, it's a whole new perspective on using computers. Manipulating Photoshop files is NOTHING, child's play. Real time editing digital video is so DONE.
Inkwell tablet, GIVE ME A BREAK!</strong><hr></blockquote>
Cool!!! We finally get the IMAX GUI that I have been wishing for and 3D glasses with the Apple 3D cinema displays or just use the new Apple brand headsets for the real 3D affect!!