Report highlights 3D facial recognition, camera tech as Apple's original efforts in 'iPhon...
While there are many anticipated features for this fall's "iPhone 8," only a handful of them will actually be novel within the smartphone world, a report pointed out on Tuesday.
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The centerpiece is a 3D facial recognition system, which should replace Touch ID for both Apple Pay and unlocking the phone, Bloomberg wrote. An infrared sensor should allow recognition even in the dark.
Other innovations are said to include vertically-mounted rear cameras configured for augmented reality, and "SmartCam" technology, able to identify objects and scenes on the fly, presumably for better photography.
Other devices -- like the Samsung Galaxy S8 and Essential Phone -- are already using edge-to-edge displays with virtual home buttons, and both OLED screens and inductive wireless charging have appeared on phones dating as far back as 2009. "Tap to wake" has been in Android products for years.
Bloomberg suggested that Apple's work at perfecting features will be the "iPhone 8's" distinguishing factor. Instead of just a home button and other basic controls, for instance, the phone may have a more advanced virtual control area.
Apple may not enter mass production until mid-September, which could leave very few units available that month, assuming the phone doesn't launch in October or November instead of Apple's usual timeframe. In the meantime the company is expected to ship the "iPhone 7s" and "7s Plus," which should use 4.7- and 5.5-inch LCDs like their predecessors, but with some "8" upgrades like wireless charging.
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The centerpiece is a 3D facial recognition system, which should replace Touch ID for both Apple Pay and unlocking the phone, Bloomberg wrote. An infrared sensor should allow recognition even in the dark.
Other innovations are said to include vertically-mounted rear cameras configured for augmented reality, and "SmartCam" technology, able to identify objects and scenes on the fly, presumably for better photography.
Other devices -- like the Samsung Galaxy S8 and Essential Phone -- are already using edge-to-edge displays with virtual home buttons, and both OLED screens and inductive wireless charging have appeared on phones dating as far back as 2009. "Tap to wake" has been in Android products for years.
Bloomberg suggested that Apple's work at perfecting features will be the "iPhone 8's" distinguishing factor. Instead of just a home button and other basic controls, for instance, the phone may have a more advanced virtual control area.
Apple may not enter mass production until mid-September, which could leave very few units available that month, assuming the phone doesn't launch in October or November instead of Apple's usual timeframe. In the meantime the company is expected to ship the "iPhone 7s" and "7s Plus," which should use 4.7- and 5.5-inch LCDs like their predecessors, but with some "8" upgrades like wireless charging.
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It must be soul-destroying.
That all assumes they're dropping Touch ID, which I still doubt.
To claim this is what pisses devs off tells me you’re not a developer and just want to fit the facts to your narrative.
Your shit logic makes me think you're a troll just trolling to annoy people and illicit responses, just like mine.
Touch ID and Face ID will be one-in-the-same for the BioAPI. Any app that supports Touch ID will support Face ID out of the box. What developers will have to do is spend time reworking their UI assets that reference Touch ID. But that won't get in the way of users' w/ iPhone 8 and Face ID on day one.
Oh, and fuck developers if they don't want to keep up with new technology.
The new iPhone was designed from the ground up without a Home Button, or Touch ID. If you don't know this by now, you haven't been paying attention.
Face ID is going to use hundreds, possibly thousands of unique data points from your head, and it will continue to learn (just like Touch ID does) with each new successful scan. Things like glasses, beards, hats are a drop in the bucket. Even a full ski mask wouldn't be enough to trick it since it will still be comparison measurements and dimensions that you can't hide.
This level of detail and sophistication is (clearly) way beyond the thought capacity of people.
This is the principle of software abstraction, or “separation of duties”.
For the same reason that there aren't corded, wireless headphones from Apple, or anyone else for that matter; one obsoletes the other.
Regardless, TID needs to be trained to recognize you as the owner. FID would need the same training. I don't see why it couldn't be trained to recognize you with shades, hats, and beards, etc. None of these separately, would be enough to fool sophisticated FID systems. Would Apple be up to the task? And most users wouldn't use all three and expect FID to work. Or shouldn't anyway. In this respect FID might train them.
Paying attention to who? Analysts? Leakers? While you may be guessing correctly, I don't see how you can support that as a certainty.
It wouldn't bother me if Apple did both, but from an economic standpoint, Apple wouldn't bother. If FID is up to the task, they'd drop TID. Space and money would dictate.
I like TID but it's been a little problematic for me on my 5s. I haven't used anything later so the newer sensor might have eliminated that. Performance is better on my iPad Air 2 but I think the sensors are the same, but don't know.
On occasion just activating the Home button to see the Lock Screen has unlocked my phone seamlessly. Sometimes there's been a delay. Also one digit doesn't seem to work reliably after a short time. Repeated training hasn't helped. Still I like the deliberate action required to unlock the phone.
FID could/may in fact be more reliable. I wonder how discerning it will be about incidental unlocking. The Apple Watch is designed to activate its display with a certain movement. But it lights up when not needed, with random movement. (This is why Apple included the Theater mode). Would the same occur with an iPhone using FID? I hope not. At this point I don't even know if there will be FID or the absence of TID.
An absolutely worthless guarantee, but I admire your confidence, and somewhat your bravado.