“Never say never”, I know. But I don’t see how it’s even remotely possible for any company to display Apple anytime soon in either the consumer or enterprise space. Especially enterprise, which is an extremely tough nut to tack an which Apple has been working on since the 1st iPhone. Who could possible come spring that can compete with Apples entire package, including design, hardware, software, corporate culture, never-ending investments, ecosystem, financial war chest, brand equity, etc? I don’t see it. Apple is in a better position now than Microsoft was a couple decades ago, simply because people love the company and its products.
I'm not sure Apple have the complete package, as you mention. MS has the full stack of enterprise applications, including server, desktops, public/private cloud, management, CRM, databases, developer tools, collaboration/email, VoIP, and now they added hardware with the Surface line. That's an enterprise ecosystem that Apple don't have. Could that change in the future? Of course, everything can happen. But I'm not seeing happening without Apple expanding their services and tools.
... That has effectively made iOS the modern "Windows" of mobile devices used in the enterprise, further cementing the stickiness of Apple's iOS platform overall among all users.The many years that it took for Apple to muscle into the corporate world--once completely dominated by Windows PCs and BlackBerry mobile devices--offers perspective into how difficult it will be for any other company to similarly displace iOS among enterprise users ... Further, Apple isn't sitting still. In its most recent quarterly earnings call, the company noted that Walmart will be deploying 19,000 new iPads for training 225,000 employees across all 50 United States and that clients ranging from Bank of America to Medtronic to Panera Bread have plans to introduce the new 10.5 inch iPad Pro across their organizations.
It also highlighted partnerships to bolster network and iOS mobile device security with Cisco; noted that its recent iOS enterprise app partnership with SAP is now being deployed to 47 million users globally; and detailed the European expansion of its enterprise app partnership with Deloitte, now growing in parallel with its initial work with IBM to build custom iOS apps for businesses, an effort which started in 2014.
What's really interesting here is that it looks like iPhones and iPads, not "PCs" (Windows or Macs, for that matter) are becoming the tool of choice for enterprise users.
While iPad sales are rising in the enterprise, I doesn't means it's the tool of choice. Dell, HP and Lenovo continue to sell huge quantity of PC's every year to enterprises. And there are many cases of business/enterprises upgrading to Windows 10. As an example, DoD will upgrade 4 million PC's. That's a huge number for a single customer. Still, Apple is doing the right thing to push iOS devices to the enterprise.
“Never say never”, I know. But I don’t see how it’s even remotely possible for any company to display Apple anytime soon in either the consumer or enterprise space. Especially enterprise, which is an extremely tough nut to tack an which Apple has been working on since the 1st iPhone. Who could possible come spring that can compete with Apples entire package, including design, hardware, software, corporate culture, never-ending investments, ecosystem, financial war chest, brand equity, etc? I don’t see it. Apple is in a better position now than Microsoft was a couple decades ago, simply because people love the company and its products.
I'm not sure Apple have the complete package, as you mention. MS has the full stack of enterprise applications, including server, desktops, public/private cloud, management, CRM, databases, developer tools, collaboration/email, VoIP, and now they added hardware with the Surface line. That's an enterprise ecosystem that Apple don't have. Could that change in the future? Of course, everything can happen. But I'm not seeing happening without Apple expanding their services and tools.
Apple is coming at this from a different angle though. I just read that, in the enterprise, Macs are at 5%, which is up from 2% 4 years ago. A big jump, but still a small fraction.
but Apple is moving in with iOS. They have about, last I saw the numbers, about 78% of enterprise phone share, and close to 90% for tablets. Those percentages have been moving up. With Microsoft never making a dent with any of their Surface line products, with peak sales less than about 3.75 million in a year, and Android absent with high performance tablets, and with Microsoft phones basically dead, Apple is doing very well there.
while it’s true that Apple doesn’t have the complete stack, others are providing that for them, and Microsoft itself is opening up for these products.
... That has effectively made iOS the modern "Windows" of mobile devices used in the enterprise, further cementing the stickiness of Apple's iOS platform overall among all users.The many years that it took for Apple to muscle into the corporate world--once completely dominated by Windows PCs and BlackBerry mobile devices--offers perspective into how difficult it will be for any other company to similarly displace iOS among enterprise users ... Further, Apple isn't sitting still. In its most recent quarterly earnings call, the company noted that Walmart will be deploying 19,000 new iPads for training 225,000 employees across all 50 United States and that clients ranging from Bank of America to Medtronic to Panera Bread have plans to introduce the new 10.5 inch iPad Pro across their organizations.
It also highlighted partnerships to bolster network and iOS mobile device security with Cisco; noted that its recent iOS enterprise app partnership with SAP is now being deployed to 47 million users globally; and detailed the European expansion of its enterprise app partnership with Deloitte, now growing in parallel with its initial work with IBM to build custom iOS apps for businesses, an effort which started in 2014.
What's really interesting here is that it looks like iPhones and iPads, not "PCs" (Windows or Macs, for that matter) are becoming the tool of choice for enterprise users.
While iPad sales are rising in the enterprise, I doesn't means it's the tool of choice. Dell, HP and Lenovo continue to sell huge quantity of PC's every year to enterprises. And there are many cases of business/enterprises upgrading to Windows 10. As an example, DoD will upgrade 4 million PC's. That's a huge number for a single customer. Still, Apple is doing the right thing to push iOS devices to the enterprise.
There really aren’t “many” cases of businesses upgrading to Win 10. In fact, the percentage of Win 10 in business has shrunken, with 7 gaining some small amount of ground.
“Never say never”, I know. But I don’t see how it’s even remotely possible for any company to display Apple anytime soon in either the consumer or enterprise space. Especially enterprise, which is an extremely tough nut to tack an which Apple has been working on since the 1st iPhone. Who could possible come spring that can compete with Apples entire package, including design, hardware, software, corporate culture, never-ending investments, ecosystem, financial war chest, brand equity, etc? I don’t see it. Apple is in a better position now than Microsoft was a couple decades ago, simply because people love the company and its products.
I'm not sure Apple have the complete package, as you mention. MS has the full stack of enterprise applications, including server, desktops, public/private cloud, management, CRM, databases, developer tools, collaboration/email, VoIP, and now they added hardware with the Surface line. That's an enterprise ecosystem that Apple don't have. Could that change in the future? Of course, everything can happen. But I'm not seeing happening without Apple expanding their services and tools.
Apple is coming at this from a different angle though. I just read that, in the enterprise, Macs are at 5%, which is up from 2% 4 years ago. A big jump, but still a small fraction.
but Apple is moving in with iOS. They have about, last I saw the numbers, about 78% of enterprise phone share, and close to 90% for tablets. Those percentages have been moving up. With Microsoft never making a dent with any of their Surface line products, with peak sales less than about 3.75 million in a year, and Android absent with high performance tablets, and with Microsoft phones basically dead, Apple is doing very well there.
while it’s true that Apple doesn’t have the complete stack, others are providing that for them, and Microsoft itself is opening up for these products.
You mention that MS haven't make a dent with the Surface, but they are only 1% behind Apple . "...the results show 47 percent of laptops and desktops in the workplace were made by Dell, followed by HP at 21 percent, Lenovo at 14 percent, and Apple at 4 percent. Surprisingly, Microsoft-branded PCs, which are relatively new to the market, are more commonly used than those made by Acer or ASUS, with 3 percent of laptops/desktops in our survey manufactured by the Redmond, Washington, company"
I think MS has done an excellent job at getting at 3% in 5 years, again, just 1% less than Apple (that's based in the Spiceworks poll, based in USA and UK).
Mobile devices is very different, and I don't see any other vendor than Apple in the lead. I think part of the problem with Apple in the enterprise is a lack of management solution. MS always gave IT managers the tools to deploy and manage Windows devices and servers. Is see no reason for Apple not having a MDM or enterprise management solution. Maybe Jamf could be an acquisition that could help on that.
... That has effectively made iOS the modern "Windows" of mobile devices used in the enterprise, further cementing the stickiness of Apple's iOS platform overall among all users.The many years that it took for Apple to muscle into the corporate world--once completely dominated by Windows PCs and BlackBerry mobile devices--offers perspective into how difficult it will be for any other company to similarly displace iOS among enterprise users ... Further, Apple isn't sitting still. In its most recent quarterly earnings call, the company noted that Walmart will be deploying 19,000 new iPads for training 225,000 employees across all 50 United States and that clients ranging from Bank of America to Medtronic to Panera Bread have plans to introduce the new 10.5 inch iPad Pro across their organizations.
It also highlighted partnerships to bolster network and iOS mobile device security with Cisco; noted that its recent iOS enterprise app partnership with SAP is now being deployed to 47 million users globally; and detailed the European expansion of its enterprise app partnership with Deloitte, now growing in parallel with its initial work with IBM to build custom iOS apps for businesses, an effort which started in 2014.
What's really interesting here is that it looks like iPhones and iPads, not "PCs" (Windows or Macs, for that matter) are becoming the tool of choice for enterprise users.
While iPad sales are rising in the enterprise, I doesn't means it's the tool of choice. Dell, HP and Lenovo continue to sell huge quantity of PC's every year to enterprises. And there are many cases of business/enterprises upgrading to Windows 10. As an example, DoD will upgrade 4 million PC's. That's a huge number for a single customer. Still, Apple is doing the right thing to push iOS devices to the enterprise.
There really aren’t “many” cases of businesses upgrading to Win 10. In fact, the percentage of Win 10 in business has shrunken, with 7 gaining some small amount of ground.
I did some research, and din't find specifics on seats deployed. But it looks like many, or most of them will do, starting this year,
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but Apple is moving in with iOS. They have about, last I saw the numbers, about 78% of enterprise phone share, and close to 90% for tablets. Those percentages have been moving up. With Microsoft never making a dent with any of their Surface line products, with peak sales less than about 3.75 million in a year, and Android absent with high performance tablets, and with Microsoft phones basically dead, Apple is doing very well there.
while it’s true that Apple doesn’t have the complete stack, others are providing that for them, and Microsoft itself is opening up for these products.
There really aren’t “many” cases of businesses upgrading to Win 10. In fact, the percentage of Win 10 in business has shrunken, with 7 gaining some small amount of ground.
https://community.spiceworks.com/networking/articles/2764-future-of-the-pc-top-computer-brands-and-adoption-trends-in-the-workplace
You mention that MS haven't make a dent with the Surface, but they are only 1% behind Apple
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"...the results show 47 percent of laptops and desktops in the workplace were made by Dell, followed by HP at 21 percent, Lenovo at 14 percent, and Apple at 4 percent. Surprisingly, Microsoft-branded PCs, which are relatively new to the market, are more commonly used than those made by Acer or ASUS, with 3 percent of laptops/desktops in our survey manufactured by the Redmond, Washington, company"
I think MS has done an excellent job at getting at 3% in 5 years, again, just 1% less than Apple (that's based in the Spiceworks poll, based in USA and UK).
Mobile devices is very different, and I don't see any other vendor than Apple in the lead. I think part of the problem with Apple in the enterprise is a lack of management solution. MS always gave IT managers the tools to deploy and manage Windows devices and servers. Is see no reason for Apple not having a MDM or enterprise management solution. Maybe Jamf could be an acquisition that could help on that.
http://www.gartner.com/newsroom/id/3690917
https://www.adaptiva.com/blog/2017/configmgr-windows-10-enterprise-impact-survey-enterprises-migrating/
One of those is the DoD, that i posted before. 4M seats, which is a huge number, specially for a single customer.
https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/02/17/us-department-of-defense-commits-to-upgrade-4-million-seats-to-windows-10/