Face ID on Apple's iPhone X will be limited to one person per device

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  • Reply 21 of 68
    Rayz2016rayz2016 Posts: 6,957member
    gatorguy said:
    Rayz2016 said:
    wood1208 said:
    Can't you share passcode(like adding extra fingerID) with family members if you want to share iPhone X ?
    Yup
    Apple of course says:
    • Don’t share your Apple ID with other people, even family members. ;)
     
    I'm not sharing my AppleID though, ami I ;).  
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  • Reply 22 of 68
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,772member
    Rayz2016 said:
    gatorguy said:
    Rayz2016 said:
    wood1208 said:
    Can't you share passcode(like adding extra fingerID) with family members if you want to share iPhone X ?
    Yup
    Apple of course says:
    • Don’t share your Apple ID with other people, even family members. ;)
     
    I'm not sharing my AppleID though, ami I ;).  
    Well I would certainly hope not since told you so. :)
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  • Reply 23 of 68
    fallenjtfallenjt Posts: 4,057member
    gatorguy said:
    Well that's absolutely counter to what Gurman said, tho based on what you've discovered and considering that it is from Apple themselves he was plainly mistaken. With that said I'm really extremely surprised it is locked to one specific face.  
    What is the point of having multiple Face ID for ONE personal phone? Multiple fingerprints for Touch ID is understandable because people have 10 fingers, but only ONE face.
    If one concerns about loved ones being unable to access the phone, give them the pass code instead.
    lostkiwi
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  • Reply 24 of 68
    gatorguy said:
    dcgoo said:
    MplsP said:
    Too bad. Wonder why they did this - was it a technical limitation of the hardware or simply a design decision. It's very convenient for my wife and I to have our fingerprints on each others' phones.


     The use case is just different:   "Honey, can I borrow your phone?  "Sure."  "Thanks, look over here."   Now it supports remote handsfree (no touching required) authentication, within a foot or few anyway.  I can see this being fairly useful in various circumstances.
    "Honey will you answer my phone" might not be quite as convenient. 
    Clearly you don't have the devices you love to critique, since it's never been necessary to unlock an iPhone to answer an incoming phone call.

    FUD! I need moar FUD! Bring me my FUD!  :smile: 
    edited September 2017
    supadav03netmagewatto_cobra
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  • Reply 25 of 68
    Not the end of the world. For those willing to share their biometrics with their loved ones there is the iPhone 8 series with Touch ID. iPhone X is not a must.
    lostkiwinetmagewatto_cobra
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  • Reply 26 of 68
    Rayz2016rayz2016 Posts: 6,957member
    gatorguy said:
    Rayz2016 said:
    gatorguy said:
    Rayz2016 said:
    wood1208 said:
    Can't you share passcode(like adding extra fingerID) with family members if you want to share iPhone X ?
    Yup
    Apple of course says:
    • Don’t share your Apple ID with other people, even family members. ;)
     
    I'm not sharing my AppleID though, ami I ;).  
    Well I would certainly hope not since told you so. :)
    Or maybe it's because Apple and I know that the passcode of an iPhone has nothing at all to do with your AppleID :)
    edited September 2017
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  • Reply 27 of 68
    fallenjtfallenjt Posts: 4,057member
    gatorguy said:
    Rayz2016 said:
    wood1208 said:
    Can't you share passcode(like adding extra fingerID) with family members if you want to share iPhone X ?
    Yup
    Apple of course says:
    • Don’t share your Apple ID with other people, even family members. ;)
     
    Passcode is not Apple ID. I know you've bee sarcastic, but still.
    netmage
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  • Reply 28 of 68

    nhughes said:
    lkrupp said:
    there were no letters from Al Franken. 
    This isn't really true. Franken has issued questions on basically every consumer-focused biometric feature that has been issued in recent memory, regardless of company, including Samsung, Facebook, and Amazon. In fact, when the Galaxy S5 got a fingerprint scanner and facial recognition capabilities in 2014, Franken issued a statement praising Apple's Touch ID and wondering if Samsung would offer the same assurances. See:

    https://www.franken.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=2815

    Needless fearmongering aside, no one should take any company (even Apple) at their word, especially not a U.S. senator. I would not be surprised if, after Apple responds to Franken, the senator is then praising Apple for its industry leading focus on privacy and security.
    Hmm yet on that same release it claims this:

    Like the Apple iPhone 5s Touch ID, which Sen. Franken investigated last year, the Galaxy S5 fingerprint scanner was hacked shortly after the smartphone's release

    ...no, Touch ID wasn't "hacked". People made extremely life-like, high-tech replicas of authorized fingerprints and successfully authenticated with them. The secure enclave was never hacked, data was never stolen out of the device, etc.
    edited September 2017
    bb-15watto_cobra
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  • Reply 29 of 68
    Rayz2016rayz2016 Posts: 6,957member
    gatorguy said:
    dcgoo said:
    MplsP said:
    Too bad. Wonder why they did this - was it a technical limitation of the hardware or simply a design decision. It's very convenient for my wife and I to have our fingerprints on each others' phones.


     The use case is just different:   "Honey, can I borrow your phone?  "Sure."  "Thanks, look over here."   Now it supports remote handsfree (no touching required) authentication, within a foot or few anyway.  I can see this being fairly useful in various circumstances.
    "Honey will you answer my phone" might not be quite as convenient. 
    You actually have no idea how an iPhone works, do you? :)
    StrangeDaysdchenderwatto_cobra
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  • Reply 30 of 68
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,772member
    fallenjt said:
    gatorguy said:
    Rayz2016 said:
    wood1208 said:
    Can't you share passcode(like adding extra fingerID) with family members if you want to share iPhone X ?
    Yup
    Apple of course says:
    • Don’t share your Apple ID with other people, even family members. ;)
     
    Passcode is not Apple ID. I know you've bee sarcastic, but still.
    Yeas I was posting a bit of fun with Rayz. 
    2old4fun
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  • Reply 31 of 68
    fallenjtfallenjt Posts: 4,057member
    alandail said:
    I tried adding my fingerprint to my wife's phone once, her finger print stopped working, we haven't tried it since then.  The answer to allowing a family member to unlock your phone is the same as it's always been, let them know your pass code.

    And so much of this article is just ridiculous, like this:

    Face ID has already proven controversial for other reasons, such as concerns about security and privacy. 

    Only by people who don't understand how it works.

    and this:

    a device might suddenly shut off when it's being shared with a friend

    Give Apple some credit here.
    I have my fingerprint in all of my kids' devices and my wife's too. My kids' iPhone stored fingerprints from 3 different people in the house and they worked just fine.
    dchendersandorwatto_cobra
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  • Reply 32 of 68
    Rayz2016rayz2016 Posts: 6,957member
    gatorguy said:
    fallenjt said:
    gatorguy said:
    Rayz2016 said:
    wood1208 said:
    Can't you share passcode(like adding extra fingerID) with family members if you want to share iPhone X ?
    Yup
    Apple of course says:
    • Don’t share your Apple ID with other people, even family members. ;)
     
    Passcode is not Apple ID. I know you've bee sarcastic, but still.
    Yeas I was posting a bit of fun with Rayz. 
    No, you actually just realised you were wrong and thought the old 'bit of fun' line would cover it up.

    You may have a better day tomorrow :)

    StrangeDayswatto_cobra
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  • Reply 33 of 68
    avon b7 said:
    LukeCage said:
    I think this makes sense, but I would like another  way to let loved ones use the phone securely 
    I think guest mode would be a easy solution that allows the user to determine which elements are accessible to guests.
    Yes!...addition of a guest access passcode would be useful I think.
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  • Reply 34 of 68
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,772member
    Rayz2016 said:
    gatorguy said:
    fallenjt said:
    gatorguy said:
    Rayz2016 said:
    wood1208 said:
    Can't you share passcode(like adding extra fingerID) with family members if you want to share iPhone X ?
    Yup
    Apple of course says:
    • Don’t share your Apple ID with other people, even family members. ;)
     
    Passcode is not Apple ID. I know you've bee sarcastic, but still.
    Yeas I was posting a bit of fun with Rayz. 
    No, you actually just realised you were wrong and thought the old 'bit of fun' line would cover it up.

    You may have a better day tomorrow :)

    No, I realized at the moment I cut and pasted but rather than have it be a wasted task thought it would be a fun mention that Apple says don't trust your family members. ;) Whenever I realize after the fact that I've made a mistake I typically go back to the post to add EDIT:

    As for a better day tomorrow I'd be hard pressed to beat today which has been marvelous! My employees are back here at work today after the hurricane, the power was restored very this morning, phones are back up as of midday and the postman delivered checks and not bills. What's not to like?
    edited September 2017
    GG1
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  • Reply 35 of 68
    slurpyslurpy Posts: 5,398member
    I wish Apple would just add a "guest mode" to the phone, and you can select which apps are accessible in this mode. So if someone needs to check your phone to look something up, or look at recent photos etc, you can offer it with peace of mind. I often have friends/family that ask to look something up with my phone - I don't refuse cause then I seem like an asshole, but I'm on edge as I can't see what the hell they're going on it. 
    edited September 2017
    netmage
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  • Reply 36 of 68
    avon b7avon b7 Posts: 8,341member
    gatorguy said:
    dcgoo said:
    MplsP said:
    Too bad. Wonder why they did this - was it a technical limitation of the hardware or simply a design decision. It's very convenient for my wife and I to have our fingerprints on each others' phones.


     The use case is just different:   "Honey, can I borrow your phone?  "Sure."  "Thanks, look over here."   Now it supports remote handsfree (no touching required) authentication, within a foot or few anyway.  I can see this being fairly useful in various circumstances.
    "Honey will you answer my phone" might not be quite as convenient. 
    Clearly you don't have the devices you love to critique, since it's never been necessary to unlock an iPhone to answer an incoming phone call.

    FUD! I need moar FUD! Bring me my FUD!  :smile: 
    Nor is it necessary on my Android, though. Of course, Huawei EarID kicks in as soon as the earpiece is within 2mm of my ear and can store information for two ears, works through hair and can't be fooled by photos.
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  • Reply 37 of 68
    mike1mike1 Posts: 3,503member
    alandail said:
    I tried adding my fingerprint to my wife's phone once, her finger print stopped working, we haven't tried it since then.  The answer to allowing a family member to unlock your phone is the same as it's always been, let them know your pass code.

    And so much of this article is just ridiculous, like this:

    Face ID has already proven controversial for other reasons, such as concerns about security and privacy. 

    Only by people who don't understand how it works.

    and this:

    a device might suddenly shut off when it's being shared with a friend

    Give Apple some credit here.
    You did something wrong. My phone stores both my thumbs and index fingers as well as my wife's thumb. No issues at all.
    watto_cobra
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  • Reply 38 of 68
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,772member
    gatorguy said:
    dcgoo said:
    MplsP said:
    Too bad. Wonder why they did this - was it a technical limitation of the hardware or simply a design decision. It's very convenient for my wife and I to have our fingerprints on each others' phones.


     The use case is just different:   "Honey, can I borrow your phone?  "Sure."  "Thanks, look over here."   Now it supports remote handsfree (no touching required) authentication, within a foot or few anyway.  I can see this being fairly useful in various circumstances.
    "Honey will you answer my phone" might not be quite as convenient. 
    Clearly you don't have the devices you love to critique, since it's never been necessary to unlock an iPhone to answer an incoming phone call.

    FUD! I need moar FUD! Bring me my FUD!  :smile: 
    And absolutely right you are good sir, and I've noted the same with an EDIT: to my original post. Same as on every other phone I've used: slide it and answer it, no unlock required. Thanks for the hand-spank, you get a gold-star from me.
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  • Reply 39 of 68
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,772member
    sog35 said:
    gatorguy said:
    gatorguy said:
    dcgoo said:
    MplsP said:
    Too bad. Wonder why they did this - was it a technical limitation of the hardware or simply a design decision. It's very convenient for my wife and I to have our fingerprints on each others' phones.


     The use case is just different:   "Honey, can I borrow your phone?  "Sure."  "Thanks, look over here."   Now it supports remote handsfree (no touching required) authentication, within a foot or few anyway.  I can see this being fairly useful in various circumstances.
    "Honey will you answer my phone" might not be quite as convenient. 
    Clearly you don't have the devices you love to critique, since it's never been necessary to unlock an iPhone to answer an incoming phone call.

    FUD! I need moar FUD! Bring me my FUD!  :smile: 
    And absolutely right you are good sir, and I've noted the same with an EDIT: to my original post. Same as on every other phone I've used: slide it and answer it, no unlock required. Thanks for the hand-spank, you get a gold-star from me.
    strange that you comment so much about Apple, but never owned an Apple product.

    Seems to me you are not qualified to be part of these discussions

    Seems strange you comment on Android products so often but don't use one. Ownership doesn't seem to be the qualifier for comments ( tho I have owned Apple products and currently do as well).
    As for knowledge of Apple I think I generally hold my own OK and very rarely ever criticize any Apple product anyway, after all what's to criticize, tho I have been known to go into brainfart mode once in awhile. 
    edited September 2017
    netmage
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  • Reply 40 of 68
    This may explain the demo issue with faceID if craig picked up the wrong phone 1st.?i would expect there to be a back presenter for each section 

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