Misidentification might also be an issue, given how similar some smartwatches can look, and the fact that many people don't follow wearable technology that closely.
I personally think a LOT of people are starting to follow the smart watch industry, especially with Apple Watch Series 3 buzz. I would hazard a guess MOST people could recognize Apple Watch...it's quite distinct.
I don't think most folks have ever SEEN an Apple watch so it would not be surprising that it's simply a catch-all name just as some people call any smartphone an iPhone. FWIW I myself have never seen one in the wild (and there's a million people in my metro area) tho no doubt some customer of mine, or someone "the next table over" has been wearing one. I've just not ever noticed. If I was looking for them I might have.
You are actually saying you have never seen an Apple watch in the wild? I think sometimes you just post things to simply disagree with a post? My goodness.. The Fitbit has existed since 2011 and yet no-one knows about it.... and the Apple Watch is so insignificant in your metro area that you have not seen one on a single person in the nearly 2 and 1/2 years it has existed, yet somehow it has taken up the "catch all" name for fitness trackers/smart watches?
Don't take anything he posts seriously, he is a pro-Google troll and knows he is spouting crap. The number of people I see wearing Watches is amazing. My wife and I evacuated Florida recently and in airports in Tampa, Boston and Manchester NH I saw so many I felt left out not owning one, I should add, my wife does and I will get one soon. We traveled extensively and stayed at quite a few hotels in Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Maine before we flew home yesterday. We saw Watches everywhere. No wonder Apple are now the number one watch (not just smart watch) today.
That's because you "watch" for them. I'm absolutely being honest and have NEVER seen an Apple Watch in the wild. Your silly name-calling doesn't make it any different (why does a presumably smart guy even do juvenile stuff like that?). You've probably had a hundred Moto G's pass you by but could probably answer honestly you not ever seen one in the wild. Apple Watches aren't anything I keep an eye out for, nor any other smartwatches for that matter. They hold no interest.
It's like buying a certain color vehicle that you hadn't seen out on the roads all that much if at all. Once you start driving it they seem to be everywhere. But don't assume everyone else is noticing your new toy. They aren't.
"I don't keep an eye out for any type of smart watch" + "I've never seen an Apple Watch in the wild" = Ignore my posts on this matter
You should try harder at reading for context. Reread the post I originally replied to and you just might understand the point being made.
GG, with all respect, I don't think any of us understood the point you were apparently trying to make, if there was one. And, speaking for myself, I did understand the responses.
So there you have it.
I don't know what's so hard to understand. The OP said "I would hazard a guess MOST people could recognize Apple Watch...it's quite distinct."
Now read my reply and it will make sense.: I don't think most folks have ever SEEN an Apple watch so it would not be surprising that it's simply a catch-all name just as some people call any smartphone an iPhone. FWIW I myself have never seen one in the wild (and there's a million people in my metro area) tho no doubt some customer of mine, or someone "the next table over" has been wearing one. I've just not ever noticed. If I was looking for them I might have."
To put it in even more simple terms I disagree with the OP's premise: IMO most folks would not recognize an Apple Watch if they saw one...
...not looking for it in the first place and even if someone with what they think might be a smartwatch has one on their wrist still not knowing the difference from a Sony from a Samsung Gear from a Moto from a Swatch from an Apple Watch. A $40 Chinese 'smartwatch" from Amazon might as well be an Apple Watch as most folks IMHO would not know the difference at a glance, even if you or others Apple fans would.
IMO Jimmy Kimmel could probably pull off a repeat of his prank still today, sticking an Apple logo on a $20 "smartwatch" and passing it off as the amazing Apple Watch to Joe and Minnie out on the street, especially outside of massive cities like New York, San Fran or Chicago where Apple gear tends to be more prevalent than in small town America.
The point that you made -- which in your usual dissembling way, you're ignoring -- is "FWIW I myself have never seen one in the wild (and there's a million people in my metro area) tho no doubt some customer of mine, or someone "the next table over" has been wearing one. I've just not ever noticed. If I was looking for them I might have."
That makes no sense whatsoever. Because it is quite unlikely that you've never noticed. You spend a lot of time as a Google person commiserating over Apple products and services, and it seems like a complete falsehood to say that you've never noticed because you're not looking for them. None of us is either, yet we've noticed (fwiw, I live in a town of just 10,000 people).
This whole stealing signs thing seems really stupid to me. The way I understand it, it's OK to steal the signs and communicate them to other players on your team. But if you use an electronic device to aid you in the theft it suddenly is against the rules. That's like saying it's OK for my friend and I to steal from a person as long as I don't text the address where we'll do it. If texting is involved it's suddenly illegal. What?
There is absolutely a difference. If players on the field of play can see the signs and pass them along that's gamesmanship, and not nor should be against the rules. However, if an eye in the sky is stealing the signs and passing them along to the dugout via electronics or other means, then effectively, you're adding at least one more player to your team.
Exactly. It's like card counting in a casino. If you can do it all in your head, good for you. If you try to use a device to do it, you're breaking the law.
Misidentification might also be an issue, given how similar some smartwatches can look, and the fact that many people don't follow wearable technology that closely.
I personally think a LOT of people are starting to follow the smart watch industry, especially with Apple Watch Series 3 buzz. I would hazard a guess MOST people could recognize Apple Watch...it's quite distinct.
I don't think most folks have ever SEEN an Apple watch so it would not be surprising that it's simply a catch-all name just as some people call any smartphone an iPhone. FWIW I myself have never seen one in the wild (and there's a million people in my metro area) tho no doubt some customer of mine, or someone "the next table over" has been wearing one. I've just not ever noticed. If I was looking for them I might have.
You are actually saying you have never seen an Apple watch in the wild? I think sometimes you just post things to simply disagree with a post? My goodness.. The Fitbit has existed since 2011 and yet no-one knows about it.... and the Apple Watch is so insignificant in your metro area that you have not seen one on a single person in the nearly 2 and 1/2 years it has existed, yet somehow it has taken up the "catch all" name for fitness trackers/smart watches?
Don't take anything he posts seriously, he is a pro-Google troll and knows he is spouting crap. The number of people I see wearing Watches is amazing. My wife and I evacuated Florida recently and in airports in Tampa, Boston and Manchester NH I saw so many I felt left out not owning one, I should add, my wife does and I will get one soon. We traveled extensively and stayed at quite a few hotels in Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Maine before we flew home yesterday. We saw Watches everywhere. No wonder Apple are now the number one watch (not just smart watch) today.
That's because you "watch" for them. I'm absolutely being honest and have NEVER seen an Apple Watch in the wild. Your silly name-calling doesn't make it any different (why does a presumably smart guy even do juvenile stuff like that?). You've probably had a hundred Moto G's pass you by but could probably answer honestly you not ever seen one in the wild. Apple Watches aren't anything I keep an eye out for, nor any other smartwatches for that matter. They hold no interest.
It's like buying a certain color vehicle that you hadn't seen out on the roads all that much if at all. Once you start driving it they seem to be everywhere. But don't assume everyone else is noticing your new toy. They aren't.
"I don't keep an eye out for any type of smart watch" + "I've never seen an Apple Watch in the wild" = Ignore my posts on this matter
You should try harder at reading for context. Reread the post I originally replied to and you just might understand the point being made.
GG, with all respect, I don't think any of us understood the point you were apparently trying to make, if there was one. And, speaking for myself, I did understand the responses.
So there you have it.
I don't know what's so hard to understand. The OP said "I would hazard a guess MOST people could recognize Apple Watch...it's quite distinct."
Now read my reply and it will make sense.: I don't think most folks have ever SEEN an Apple watch so it would not be surprising that it's simply a catch-all name just as some people call any smartphone an iPhone. FWIW I myself have never seen one in the wild (and there's a million people in my metro area) tho no doubt some customer of mine, or someone "the next table over" has been wearing one. I've just not ever noticed. If I was looking for them I might have."
To put it in even more simple terms I disagree with the OP's premise: IMO most folks would not recognize an Apple Watch if they saw one...
...not looking for it in the first place and even if someone with what they think might be a smartwatch has one on their wrist still not knowing the difference from a Sony from a Samsung Gear from a Moto from a Swatch from an Apple Watch. A $40 Chinese 'smartwatch" from Amazon might as well be an Apple Watch as most folks IMHO would not know the difference at a glance, even if you or others Apple fans would.
IMO Jimmy Kimmel could probably pull off a repeat of his prank still today, sticking an Apple logo on a $20 "smartwatch" and passing it off as the amazing Apple Watch to Joe and Minnie out on the street, especially outside of massive cities like New York, San Fran or Chicago where Apple gear tends to be more prevalent than in small town America.
The point that you made -- which in your usual dissembling way, you're ignoring -- is "FWIW I myself have never seen one in the wild (and there's a million people in my metro area) tho no doubt some customer of mine, or someone "the next table over" has been wearing one. I've just not ever noticed. If I was looking for them I might have."
That makes no sense whatsoever. Because it is quite unlikely that you've never noticed. You spend a lot of time as a Google person commiserating over Apple products and services, and it seems like a complete falsehood to say that you've never noticed because you're not looking for them. None of us is either, yet we've noticed (fwiw, I live in a town of just 10,000 people).
Oh geez, still missing the point but whatever...
NO I have not EVER seen an Apple Watch in the wild. Have they been there and I just not noticed?. Almost certainly! But that's speaks to the point I was making and have so far repeated more than once for those not reading very carefully: IMO most folks have probably never seen an Apple Watch and even fewer are likely to immediately recognize a watch as one if they do happen to take notice of a wrist-worn smart device. TBF I don't actually recall noticing more than smartwatch or two ever so I might be just as likely as most folks not to recognize one immediately if I do. But as it's now on my mind I'll try to keep an eye open.
In any event the claim is not that no one is wearing Apple Watches. It's that most folks around them don't notice them and even fewer people would definitively be able to ID one.
As for your tagalong claim I spend very little time "commiserating over Apple products and services". I leave that to you and others for the most part. The vast majority of my of my input is either clarification/explanation of subjects that appear to be widely misunderstood, or correcting obvious even if not immediately apparent un-truths relating to some competing (?) company, feature, or product. A relatively high percentage of AppleInsider articles are not directly connected to Apple in the first place so plenty of opportunity for misunderstandings to be found here as many posters comment away but just aren't all that informed about Android, or Google, or patent monetization, or data-mining, or tax avoidance structures or... THAT'S where you'll find the majority of my comments apply, and not posts dissing Apple (except perhaps on taxes but to me Google, Amazon, Facebook, GE, Pfizer et al are no better)
In the five+ years I've been a member here I've not once said anything derogatory about an Apple Watch, stated that anything about an iPad was flawed or that a competing tablet was better, not once even said that an Apple TV or it's remote was a poorly designed product, or written that an iPhone was not the best available smartphone on the market. I've not posted that Apple "stole" any features from Android, jumped on the Samsung bandwagon, nor recall even a single instance of questioning the quality and thought and planning Apple puts into their products. I've rarely, almost NEVER, been the first to inject a competitor into an Apple-specific thread and that includes any mention of Google. Heck ErictheHalfBee is far more likely to go off-topic and bring them up than I am.
What you and a few others seem not to like is my failing to join in imaginative community bashing "just because it's not Apple", where emphasis on truth and honesty is too often less important than FUD. Instead if it seems there's misunderstanding by a poster and I have some knowledge of something more accurate I'll say so. That makes it really hard for some here to read posts for what they say rather than what they want to imagine is being said.
I thought you were more aware than that considering the number of PM's we've shared.
AppleWatch, Fitbit, they're all the same in function, anyway. Why should the Boston Red Sux buy some overly expensive AppleWatch when they can get a perfectly fine Android Fitbit for one-third the price and it can be used to steal signs just as well if not better than some AppleWatch?
It's no wonder the Fitbit was mistaken for an AppleWatch. The Fitbit does look somewhat similar to the AppleWatch. They're both squarish. /s
This whole stealing signs thing seems really stupid to me. The way I understand it, it's OK to steal the signs and communicate them to other players on your team. But if you use an electronic device to aid you in the theft it suddenly is against the rules. That's like saying it's OK for my friend and I to steal from a person as long as I don't text the address where we'll do it. If texting is involved it's suddenly illegal. What?
There is absolutely a difference. If players on the field of play can see the signs and pass them along that's gamesmanship, and not nor should be against the rules. However, if an eye in the sky is stealing the signs and passing them along to the dugout via electronics or other means, then effectively, you're adding at least one more player to your team.
Exactly. It's like card counting in a casino. If you can do it all in your head, good for you. If you try to use a device to do it, you're breaking the law.
I'm pretty sure card counting is frowned upon no matter what, but doing it in your head just makes it harder to be caught. In baseball stealing signs isn't illegal, just using an electronic aid to do it is. Dumb.
If stealing signs is considered 'part of the game' then who cares how it's done? Let it be part of the game or make the stealing illegal.
This whole stealing signs thing seems really stupid to me. The way I understand it, it's OK to steal the signs and communicate them to other players on your team. But if you use an electronic device to aid you in the theft it suddenly is against the rules. That's like saying it's OK for my friend and I to steal from a person as long as I don't text the address where we'll do it. If texting is involved it's suddenly illegal. What?
Stealing signs isn’t against the rules but the use of unapproved technology to do so is. Much like stealing bases isn’t against the rules but the first base coach wheeling a 100cc dirt bike over to the runner to use is.
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That makes no sense whatsoever. Because it is quite unlikely that you've never noticed. You spend a lot of time as a Google person commiserating over Apple products and services, and it seems like a complete falsehood to say that you've never noticed because you're not looking for them. None of us is either, yet we've noticed (fwiw, I live in a town of just 10,000 people).
Exactly. It's like card counting in a casino. If you can do it all in your head, good for you. If you try to use a device to do it, you're breaking the law.
NO I have not EVER seen an Apple Watch in the wild. Have they been there and I just not noticed?. Almost certainly! But that's speaks to the point I was making and have so far repeated more than once for those not reading very carefully: IMO most folks have probably never seen an Apple Watch and even fewer are likely to immediately recognize a watch as one if they do happen to take notice of a wrist-worn smart device. TBF I don't actually recall noticing more than smartwatch or two ever so I might be just as likely as most folks not to recognize one immediately if I do. But as it's now on my mind I'll try to keep an eye open.
In any event the claim is not that no one is wearing Apple Watches. It's that most folks around them don't notice them and even fewer people would definitively be able to ID one.
As for your tagalong claim I spend very little time "commiserating over Apple products and services". I leave that to you and others for the most part. The vast majority of my of my input is either clarification/explanation of subjects that appear to be widely misunderstood, or correcting obvious even if not immediately apparent un-truths relating to some competing (?) company, feature, or product. A relatively high percentage of AppleInsider articles are not directly connected to Apple in the first place so plenty of opportunity for misunderstandings to be found here as many posters comment away but just aren't all that informed about Android, or Google, or patent monetization, or data-mining, or tax avoidance structures or...
THAT'S where you'll find the majority of my comments apply, and not posts dissing Apple (except perhaps on taxes but to me Google, Amazon, Facebook, GE, Pfizer et al are no better)
In the five+ years I've been a member here I've not once said anything derogatory about an Apple Watch, stated that anything about an iPad was flawed or that a competing tablet was better, not once even said that an Apple TV or it's remote was a poorly designed product, or written that an iPhone was not the best available smartphone on the market. I've not posted that Apple "stole" any features from Android, jumped on the Samsung bandwagon, nor recall even a single instance of questioning the quality and thought and planning Apple puts into their products. I've rarely, almost NEVER, been the first to inject a competitor into an Apple-specific thread and that includes any mention of Google. Heck ErictheHalfBee is far more likely to go off-topic and bring them up than I am.
What you and a few others seem not to like is my failing to join in imaginative community bashing "just because it's not Apple", where emphasis on truth and honesty is too often less important than FUD. Instead if it seems there's misunderstanding by a poster and I have some knowledge of something more accurate I'll say so. That makes it really hard for some here to read posts for what they say rather than what they want to imagine is being said.
I thought you were more aware than that considering the number of PM's we've shared.
If stealing signs is considered 'part of the game' then who cares how it's done? Let it be part of the game or make the stealing illegal.