Boston Red Sox used Fitbit to steal signs, not Apple Watch, reporter claims

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  • Reply 21 of 46
    anomeanome Posts: 1,545member
    fallenjt said:
    I predict that soon Apple Watch will be the category name for smartwatches just like iPod was for MP3 players.
    I suspect that's what's happened here.

    Like those Microsoft iPads the NFL issued to everyone?

    This may have something to do with not using the "i" branding for the watch - to avoid a Kleenex situation. Including the Apple brand in the watch name should stop them losing control of the trademark.

    Although, really, it's probably just that "iWatch" isn't a great name. Although I do think they'd like to move away from the "i" branding generally, but it might be difficult for the established product lines at this point.

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  • Reply 22 of 46
    gatorguy said:
    peterhart said:
    Misidentification might also be an issue, given how similar some smartwatches can look, and the fact that many people don't follow wearable technology that closely.
    I personally think a LOT of people are starting to follow the smart watch industry, especially with Apple Watch Series 3 buzz. I would hazard a guess MOST people could recognize Apple Watch...it's quite distinct.

    I don't think most folks have ever SEEN an Apple watch so it would not be surprising that it's simply a catch-all name just as some people call any smartphone an iPhone. FWIW I myself have never seen one in the wild (and there's a million people in my metro area) tho no doubt some customer of mine, or someone "the next table over" has been wearing one. I've just not ever noticed. If I was looking for them I might have. 
    How strange, in my southern city of 400,000 city limits / million major metro, I see them near daily. I know you're not very familiar with Apple products, would you know what one looked like?
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  • Reply 23 of 46
    This whole stealing signs thing seems really stupid to me.  The way I understand it, it's OK to steal the signs and communicate them to other players on your team. But if you use an electronic device to aid you in the theft it suddenly is against the rules.  That's like saying it's OK for my friend and I to steal from a person as long as I don't text the address where we'll do it.  If texting is involved it's suddenly illegal.  What?
    I think that what it comes down to is that the MLB doesn't like sign-stealing, but they know that it would be impossible to eliminate. If it's going to happen, they want to keep it "quaint" and "old-fashioned."  
    What they really don't want is people using binoculars, telescopes or laser sensors. They don't want radio signals to facilitate the process. In short, they want it to be hard, clever and unobtrusive.  

    To to try to fit into your analogy, it might be like: we don't really like anyone to get robbed, but we won't enforce rules against pickpockets. Use a knife or a gun, or some other weapon  however, and we'll throw the book at you.
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  • Reply 24 of 46
    calicali Posts: 3,494member
    If true this will turn from "#StealGate Apple is doomed!!" To "who cares?"

    I doubt these rich guys had FitBits. Seriously.

    fallenjt said:
    I predict that soon Apple Watch will be the category name for smartwatches just like iPod was for MP3 players.

    I'd hope so. iPhone was supposed to be that way but android knocked it off really fast.

    I have predicted that all smartwatches will look identical to Apple Watch just like Macs, iPads and iPhones. All these experimental "innovations" are gonna go away and everything will be like Apple(AGAIN). 
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  • Reply 25 of 46
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,771member
    MacPro said:
    jcs2305 said:
    gatorguy said:
    peterhart said:
    Misidentification might also be an issue, given how similar some smartwatches can look, and the fact that many people don't follow wearable technology that closely.
    I personally think a LOT of people are starting to follow the smart watch industry, especially with Apple Watch Series 3 buzz. I would hazard a guess MOST people could recognize Apple Watch...it's quite distinct.

    I don't think most folks have ever SEEN an Apple watch so it would not be surprising that it's simply a catch-all name just as some people call any smartphone an iPhone. FWIW I myself have never seen one in the wild (and there's a million people in my metro area) tho no doubt some customer of mine, or someone "the next table over" has been wearing one. I've just not ever noticed. If I was looking for them I might have. 
    You are actually saying you have never seen an Apple watch in the wild? I think sometimes you just post things to simply disagree with a post? My goodness..  The Fitbit has existed since 2011 and yet no-one knows about it.... and the Apple Watch is so insignificant in your metro area that you have not seen one on a single person in the nearly 2 and 1/2 years it has existed, yet somehow it has taken up the "catch all" name for fitness trackers/smart watches? 
    Don't take anything he posts seriously, he is a pro-Google troll and knows he is spouting crap.  The number of people I see wearing Watches is amazing.  My wife and I evacuated Florida recently and in airports in Tampa, Boston and Manchester NH I saw so many I felt left out not owning one, I should add, my wife does and I will get one soon.  We traveled extensively and stayed at quite a few hotels in Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Maine before we flew home yesterday.  We saw Watches everywhere.  No wonder Apple are now the number one watch (not just smart watch) today. 
    That's because you "watch" for them. I'm absolutely being honest and have NEVER seen an Apple Watch in the wild. Your silly name-calling doesn't make it any different (why does a presumably smart guy even do juvenile stuff like that?). You've probably had  a hundred Moto G's pass you by but could probably answer honestly you not ever seen one in the wild. Apple Watches aren't anything I keep an eye out for, nor any other smartwatches for that matter. They hold no interest. 

    It's like buying a certain color vehicle that you hadn't seen out on the roads all that much if at all. Once you start driving it they seem to be everywhere. But don't assume everyone else is noticing your new toy. They aren't. 
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  • Reply 26 of 46
    gatorguy said:
    MacPro said:
    jcs2305 said:
    gatorguy said:
    peterhart said:
    Misidentification might also be an issue, given how similar some smartwatches can look, and the fact that many people don't follow wearable technology that closely.
    I personally think a LOT of people are starting to follow the smart watch industry, especially with Apple Watch Series 3 buzz. I would hazard a guess MOST people could recognize Apple Watch...it's quite distinct.

    I don't think most folks have ever SEEN an Apple watch so it would not be surprising that it's simply a catch-all name just as some people call any smartphone an iPhone. FWIW I myself have never seen one in the wild (and there's a million people in my metro area) tho no doubt some customer of mine, or someone "the next table over" has been wearing one. I've just not ever noticed. If I was looking for them I might have. 
    You are actually saying you have never seen an Apple watch in the wild? I think sometimes you just post things to simply disagree with a post? My goodness..  The Fitbit has existed since 2011 and yet no-one knows about it.... and the Apple Watch is so insignificant in your metro area that you have not seen one on a single person in the nearly 2 and 1/2 years it has existed, yet somehow it has taken up the "catch all" name for fitness trackers/smart watches? 
    Don't take anything he posts seriously, he is a pro-Google troll and knows he is spouting crap.  The number of people I see wearing Watches is amazing.  My wife and I evacuated Florida recently and in airports in Tampa, Boston and Manchester NH I saw so many I felt left out not owning one, I should add, my wife does and I will get one soon.  We traveled extensively and stayed at quite a few hotels in Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Maine before we flew home yesterday.  We saw Watches everywhere.  No wonder Apple are now the number one watch (not just smart watch) today. 
    That's because you "watch" for them. I'm absolutely being honest and have NEVER seen an Apple Watch in the wild. Your silly name-calling doesn't make it any different (why does a presumably smart guy even do juvenile stuff like that?). You've probably had  a hundred Moto G's pass you by but could probably answer honestly you not ever seen one in the wild. Apple Watches aren't anything I keep an eye out for, nor any other smartwatches for that matter. They hold no interest. 

    It's like buying a certain color vehicle that you hadn't seen out on the roads all that much if at all. Once you start driving it they seem to be everywhere. But don't assume everyone else is noticing your new toy. They aren't. 
    You have no interest in them, but felt the need to comment on them.

    And last week, you tried to highlight what you thought would be a failing of FaceID, and instead you accidentally revealed that you'd never used an iPhone, which is odd because you seem have plenty to say about them.  

    You know what? I think people are beginning to wonder why you spend so much time here. 

    Try getting out of the flat once in a while.

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  • Reply 27 of 46
    gatorguy said:
    MacPro said:
    jcs2305 said:
    gatorguy said:
    peterhart said:
    Misidentification might also be an issue, given how similar some smartwatches can look, and the fact that many people don't follow wearable technology that closely.
    I personally think a LOT of people are starting to follow the smart watch industry, especially with Apple Watch Series 3 buzz. I would hazard a guess MOST people could recognize Apple Watch...it's quite distinct.

    I don't think most folks have ever SEEN an Apple watch so it would not be surprising that it's simply a catch-all name just as some people call any smartphone an iPhone. FWIW I myself have never seen one in the wild (and there's a million people in my metro area) tho no doubt some customer of mine, or someone "the next table over" has been wearing one. I've just not ever noticed. If I was looking for them I might have. 
    You are actually saying you have never seen an Apple watch in the wild? I think sometimes you just post things to simply disagree with a post? My goodness..  The Fitbit has existed since 2011 and yet no-one knows about it.... and the Apple Watch is so insignificant in your metro area that you have not seen one on a single person in the nearly 2 and 1/2 years it has existed, yet somehow it has taken up the "catch all" name for fitness trackers/smart watches? 
    Don't take anything he posts seriously, he is a pro-Google troll and knows he is spouting crap.  The number of people I see wearing Watches is amazing.  My wife and I evacuated Florida recently and in airports in Tampa, Boston and Manchester NH I saw so many I felt left out not owning one, I should add, my wife does and I will get one soon.  We traveled extensively and stayed at quite a few hotels in Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Maine before we flew home yesterday.  We saw Watches everywhere.  No wonder Apple are now the number one watch (not just smart watch) today. 
    That's because you "watch" for them. I'm absolutely being honest and have NEVER seen an Apple Watch in the wild. Your silly name-calling doesn't make it any different (why does a presumably smart guy even do juvenile stuff like that?). You've probably had  a hundred Moto G's pass you by but could probably answer honestly you not ever seen one in the wild. Apple Watches aren't anything I keep an eye out for, nor any other smartwatches for that matter. They hold no interest. 

    It's like buying a certain color vehicle that you hadn't seen out on the roads all that much if at all. Once you start driving it they seem to be everywhere. But don't assume everyone else is noticing your new toy. They aren't. 

    "I don't keep an eye out for any type of smart watch"
    +
    "I've never seen an Apple Watch in the wild"

    Ignore my posts on this matter
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  • Reply 28 of 46
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,771member
    larrya said:
    gatorguy said:
    MacPro said:
    jcs2305 said:
    gatorguy said:
    peterhart said:
    Misidentification might also be an issue, given how similar some smartwatches can look, and the fact that many people don't follow wearable technology that closely.
    I personally think a LOT of people are starting to follow the smart watch industry, especially with Apple Watch Series 3 buzz. I would hazard a guess MOST people could recognize Apple Watch...it's quite distinct.

    I don't think most folks have ever SEEN an Apple watch so it would not be surprising that it's simply a catch-all name just as some people call any smartphone an iPhone. FWIW I myself have never seen one in the wild (and there's a million people in my metro area) tho no doubt some customer of mine, or someone "the next table over" has been wearing one. I've just not ever noticed. If I was looking for them I might have. 
    You are actually saying you have never seen an Apple watch in the wild? I think sometimes you just post things to simply disagree with a post? My goodness..  The Fitbit has existed since 2011 and yet no-one knows about it.... and the Apple Watch is so insignificant in your metro area that you have not seen one on a single person in the nearly 2 and 1/2 years it has existed, yet somehow it has taken up the "catch all" name for fitness trackers/smart watches? 
    Don't take anything he posts seriously, he is a pro-Google troll and knows he is spouting crap.  The number of people I see wearing Watches is amazing.  My wife and I evacuated Florida recently and in airports in Tampa, Boston and Manchester NH I saw so many I felt left out not owning one, I should add, my wife does and I will get one soon.  We traveled extensively and stayed at quite a few hotels in Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Maine before we flew home yesterday.  We saw Watches everywhere.  No wonder Apple are now the number one watch (not just smart watch) today. 
    That's because you "watch" for them. I'm absolutely being honest and have NEVER seen an Apple Watch in the wild. Your silly name-calling doesn't make it any different (why does a presumably smart guy even do juvenile stuff like that?). You've probably had  a hundred Moto G's pass you by but could probably answer honestly you not ever seen one in the wild. Apple Watches aren't anything I keep an eye out for, nor any other smartwatches for that matter. They hold no interest. 

    It's like buying a certain color vehicle that you hadn't seen out on the roads all that much if at all. Once you start driving it they seem to be everywhere. But don't assume everyone else is noticing your new toy. They aren't. 

    "I don't keep an eye out for any type of smart watch"
    +
    "I've never seen an Apple Watch in the wild"

    Ignore my posts on this matter
    You should try harder at reading for context. Reread the post I originally replied to and you just might understand the point being made. 
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  • Reply 29 of 46
    gatorguy said:
    larrya said:
    gatorguy said:
    MacPro said:
    jcs2305 said:
    gatorguy said:
    peterhart said:
    Misidentification might also be an issue, given how similar some smartwatches can look, and the fact that many people don't follow wearable technology that closely.
    I personally think a LOT of people are starting to follow the smart watch industry, especially with Apple Watch Series 3 buzz. I would hazard a guess MOST people could recognize Apple Watch...it's quite distinct.

    I don't think most folks have ever SEEN an Apple watch so it would not be surprising that it's simply a catch-all name just as some people call any smartphone an iPhone. FWIW I myself have never seen one in the wild (and there's a million people in my metro area) tho no doubt some customer of mine, or someone "the next table over" has been wearing one. I've just not ever noticed. If I was looking for them I might have. 
    You are actually saying you have never seen an Apple watch in the wild? I think sometimes you just post things to simply disagree with a post? My goodness..  The Fitbit has existed since 2011 and yet no-one knows about it.... and the Apple Watch is so insignificant in your metro area that you have not seen one on a single person in the nearly 2 and 1/2 years it has existed, yet somehow it has taken up the "catch all" name for fitness trackers/smart watches? 
    Don't take anything he posts seriously, he is a pro-Google troll and knows he is spouting crap.  The number of people I see wearing Watches is amazing.  My wife and I evacuated Florida recently and in airports in Tampa, Boston and Manchester NH I saw so many I felt left out not owning one, I should add, my wife does and I will get one soon.  We traveled extensively and stayed at quite a few hotels in Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Maine before we flew home yesterday.  We saw Watches everywhere.  No wonder Apple are now the number one watch (not just smart watch) today. 
    That's because you "watch" for them. I'm absolutely being honest and have NEVER seen an Apple Watch in the wild. Your silly name-calling doesn't make it any different (why does a presumably smart guy even do juvenile stuff like that?). You've probably had  a hundred Moto G's pass you by but could probably answer honestly you not ever seen one in the wild. Apple Watches aren't anything I keep an eye out for, nor any other smartwatches for that matter. They hold no interest. 

    It's like buying a certain color vehicle that you hadn't seen out on the roads all that much if at all. Once you start driving it they seem to be everywhere. But don't assume everyone else is noticing your new toy. They aren't. 

    "I don't keep an eye out for any type of smart watch"
    +
    "I've never seen an Apple Watch in the wild"

    Ignore my posts on this matter
    You should try harder at reading for context. Reread the post I originally replied to and you just might understand the point being made. 
    GG, with all respect, I don't think any of us understood the point you were apparently trying to make, if there was one. And, speaking for myself, I did understand the responses. 

    So there you have it. 
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  • Reply 30 of 46
    gatorguy said:
    peterhart said:
    Misidentification might also be an issue, given how similar some smartwatches can look, and the fact that many people don't follow wearable technology that closely.
    I personally think a LOT of people are starting to follow the smart watch industry, especially with Apple Watch Series 3 buzz. I would hazard a guess MOST people could recognize Apple Watch...it's quite distinct.

    I don't think most folks have ever SEEN an Apple watch so it would not be surprising that it's simply a catch-all name just as some people call any smartphone an iPhone. FWIW I myself have never seen one in the wild (and there's a million people in my metro area) tho no doubt some customer of mine, or someone "the next table over" has been wearing one. I've just not ever noticed. If I was looking for them I might have. 
    How strange, in my southern city of 400,000 city limits / million major metro, I see them near daily. I know you're not very familiar with Apple products, would you know what one looked like?
    I see Apple Watches fairly often (weekly?) - and make it a point to say 'nice watch' whenever I can. It's not just for the rich either...complemented the checkout woman at Food Lion (grocery store chain) and we got into a short conversation about Watch bands.
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  • Reply 31 of 46
    mike1mike1 Posts: 3,502member
    This whole stealing signs thing seems really stupid to me.  The way I understand it, it's OK to steal the signs and communicate them to other players on your team. But if you use an electronic device to aid you in the theft it suddenly is against the rules.  That's like saying it's OK for my friend and I to steal from a person as long as I don't text the address where we'll do it.  If texting is involved it's suddenly illegal.  What?
    There is absolutely a difference. If players on the field of play can see the signs and pass them along that's gamesmanship, and not nor should be against the rules. However, if an eye in the sky is stealing the signs and passing them along to the dugout via electronics or other means, then effectively, you're adding at least one more player to your team.
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  • Reply 32 of 46
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 10,557member
    fallenjt said:
    I predict that soon Apple Watch will be the category name for smartwatches just like iPod was for MP3 players.
    I suspect that's what's happened here.
    Just like Xerox became the term for any copying machine.
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  • Reply 33 of 46
    mike1 said:
    This whole stealing signs thing seems really stupid to me.  The way I understand it, it's OK to steal the signs and communicate them to other players on your team. But if you use an electronic device to aid you in the theft it suddenly is against the rules.  That's like saying it's OK for my friend and I to steal from a person as long as I don't text the address where we'll do it.  If texting is involved it's suddenly illegal.  What?
    There is absolutely a difference. If players on the field of play can see the signs and pass them along that's gamesmanship, and not nor should be against the rules. However, if an eye in the sky is stealing the signs and passing them along to the dugout via electronics or other means, then effectively, you're adding at least one more player to your team.
    So electronically enhancing people on the field would be good I guess :-).

    Rules of Baseball are as convoluted as they want them to be. No wonder it went from America's game to increasingly an afterthought I was a big fan of Baseball in the 1970s to early 1980s..
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  • Reply 34 of 46
    gatorguy said:
    MacPro said:
    jcs2305 said:
    gatorguy said:
    peterhart said:
    Misidentification might also be an issue, given how similar some smartwatches can look, and the fact that many people don't follow wearable technology that closely.
    I personally think a LOT of people are starting to follow the smart watch industry, especially with Apple Watch Series 3 buzz. I would hazard a guess MOST people could recognize Apple Watch...it's quite distinct.

    I don't think most folks have ever SEEN an Apple watch so it would not be surprising that it's simply a catch-all name just as some people call any smartphone an iPhone. FWIW I myself have never seen one in the wild (and there's a million people in my metro area) tho no doubt some customer of mine, or someone "the next table over" has been wearing one. I've just not ever noticed. If I was looking for them I might have. 
    You are actually saying you have never seen an Apple watch in the wild? I think sometimes you just post things to simply disagree with a post? My goodness..  The Fitbit has existed since 2011 and yet no-one knows about it.... and the Apple Watch is so insignificant in your metro area that you have not seen one on a single person in the nearly 2 and 1/2 years it has existed, yet somehow it has taken up the "catch all" name for fitness trackers/smart watches? 
    Don't take anything he posts seriously, he is a pro-Google troll and knows he is spouting crap.  The number of people I see wearing Watches is amazing.  My wife and I evacuated Florida recently and in airports in Tampa, Boston and Manchester NH I saw so many I felt left out not owning one, I should add, my wife does and I will get one soon.  We traveled extensively and stayed at quite a few hotels in Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Maine before we flew home yesterday.  We saw Watches everywhere.  No wonder Apple are now the number one watch (not just smart watch) today. 
    That's because you "watch" for them. I'm absolutely being honest and have NEVER seen an Apple Watch in the wild. Your silly name-calling doesn't make it any different (why does a presumably smart guy even do juvenile stuff like that?). You've probably had  a hundred Moto G's pass you by but could probably answer honestly you not ever seen one in the wild. Apple Watches aren't anything I keep an eye out for, nor any other smartwatches for that matter. They hold no interest. 
    If your own inability to observe them is as limited as you say, then what on earth would make your comment on this inability to observe in any way noteworthy or relevant to anyone? ie, why even mention it you have no ability to see them?

    You’re not making much sense here. 
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  • Reply 35 of 46
    gatorguy said:
    larrya said:
    gatorguy said:
    MacPro said:
    jcs2305 said:
    gatorguy said:
    peterhart said:
    Misidentification might also be an issue, given how similar some smartwatches can look, and the fact that many people don't follow wearable technology that closely.
    I personally think a LOT of people are starting to follow the smart watch industry, especially with Apple Watch Series 3 buzz. I would hazard a guess MOST people could recognize Apple Watch...it's quite distinct.

    I don't think most folks have ever SEEN an Apple watch so it would not be surprising that it's simply a catch-all name just as some people call any smartphone an iPhone. FWIW I myself have never seen one in the wild (and there's a million people in my metro area) tho no doubt some customer of mine, or someone "the next table over" has been wearing one. I've just not ever noticed. If I was looking for them I might have. 
    You are actually saying you have never seen an Apple watch in the wild? I think sometimes you just post things to simply disagree with a post? My goodness..  The Fitbit has existed since 2011 and yet no-one knows about it.... and the Apple Watch is so insignificant in your metro area that you have not seen one on a single person in the nearly 2 and 1/2 years it has existed, yet somehow it has taken up the "catch all" name for fitness trackers/smart watches? 
    Don't take anything he posts seriously, he is a pro-Google troll and knows he is spouting crap.  The number of people I see wearing Watches is amazing.  My wife and I evacuated Florida recently and in airports in Tampa, Boston and Manchester NH I saw so many I felt left out not owning one, I should add, my wife does and I will get one soon.  We traveled extensively and stayed at quite a few hotels in Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Maine before we flew home yesterday.  We saw Watches everywhere.  No wonder Apple are now the number one watch (not just smart watch) today. 
    That's because you "watch" for them. I'm absolutely being honest and have NEVER seen an Apple Watch in the wild. Your silly name-calling doesn't make it any different (why does a presumably smart guy even do juvenile stuff like that?). You've probably had  a hundred Moto G's pass you by but could probably answer honestly you not ever seen one in the wild. Apple Watches aren't anything I keep an eye out for, nor any other smartwatches for that matter. They hold no interest. 

    It's like buying a certain color vehicle that you hadn't seen out on the roads all that much if at all. Once you start driving it they seem to be everywhere. But don't assume everyone else is noticing your new toy. They aren't. 

    "I don't keep an eye out for any type of smart watch"
    +
    "I've never seen an Apple Watch in the wild"

    Ignore my posts on this matter
    You should try harder at reading for context. Reread the post I originally replied to and you just might understand the point being made. 
    No, he's absolutely right. And now you're apparently hiding behind word games. How about this -- instead of merely suggesting there was some point to you own self-discredited observation, why don't you just explain in clear terms the point you were trying to make? First you say you don't ever see them, now you say you are predisposed not to see them. So it's fair to call into question the value-add of your first statement.

    In general, any time you tell somebody there was a point to something you said but it was lost on them, the reality is that you failed to communicate the point effectively. It's not our job to parse out meaning in unclear comments, it's the poster's job to make meaning apparent.
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  • Reply 36 of 46
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,771member
    gatorguy said:
    larrya said:
    gatorguy said:
    MacPro said:
    jcs2305 said:
    gatorguy said:
    peterhart said:
    Misidentification might also be an issue, given how similar some smartwatches can look, and the fact that many people don't follow wearable technology that closely.
    I personally think a LOT of people are starting to follow the smart watch industry, especially with Apple Watch Series 3 buzz. I would hazard a guess MOST people could recognize Apple Watch...it's quite distinct.

    I don't think most folks have ever SEEN an Apple watch so it would not be surprising that it's simply a catch-all name just as some people call any smartphone an iPhone. FWIW I myself have never seen one in the wild (and there's a million people in my metro area) tho no doubt some customer of mine, or someone "the next table over" has been wearing one. I've just not ever noticed. If I was looking for them I might have. 
    You are actually saying you have never seen an Apple watch in the wild? I think sometimes you just post things to simply disagree with a post? My goodness..  The Fitbit has existed since 2011 and yet no-one knows about it.... and the Apple Watch is so insignificant in your metro area that you have not seen one on a single person in the nearly 2 and 1/2 years it has existed, yet somehow it has taken up the "catch all" name for fitness trackers/smart watches? 
    Don't take anything he posts seriously, he is a pro-Google troll and knows he is spouting crap.  The number of people I see wearing Watches is amazing.  My wife and I evacuated Florida recently and in airports in Tampa, Boston and Manchester NH I saw so many I felt left out not owning one, I should add, my wife does and I will get one soon.  We traveled extensively and stayed at quite a few hotels in Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Maine before we flew home yesterday.  We saw Watches everywhere.  No wonder Apple are now the number one watch (not just smart watch) today. 
    That's because you "watch" for them. I'm absolutely being honest and have NEVER seen an Apple Watch in the wild. Your silly name-calling doesn't make it any different (why does a presumably smart guy even do juvenile stuff like that?). You've probably had  a hundred Moto G's pass you by but could probably answer honestly you not ever seen one in the wild. Apple Watches aren't anything I keep an eye out for, nor any other smartwatches for that matter. They hold no interest. 

    It's like buying a certain color vehicle that you hadn't seen out on the roads all that much if at all. Once you start driving it they seem to be everywhere. But don't assume everyone else is noticing your new toy. They aren't. 

    "I don't keep an eye out for any type of smart watch"
    +
    "I've never seen an Apple Watch in the wild"

    Ignore my posts on this matter
    You should try harder at reading for context. Reread the post I originally replied to and you just might understand the point being made. 
    GG, with all respect, I don't think any of us understood the point you were apparently trying to make, if there was one. And, speaking for myself, I did understand the responses. 

    So there you have it. 
    I don't know what's so hard to understand. The OP said "I would hazard a guess MOST people could recognize Apple Watch...it's quite distinct."

    Now read my reply and it will make sense.: I don't think most folks have ever SEEN an Apple watch so it would not be surprising that it's simply a catch-all name just as some people call any smartphone an iPhone. FWIW I myself have never seen one in the wild (and there's a million people in my metro area) tho no doubt some customer of mine, or someone "the next table over" has been wearing one. I've just not ever noticed. If I was looking for them I might have."

    To put it in even more simple terms I disagree with the OP's premise: IMO most folks would not recognize an Apple Watch if they saw one...

    ...not looking for it in the first place and even if someone with what they think might be a smartwatch has one on their wrist still not knowing the difference from a Sony from a Samsung Gear from a Moto from a Swatch from an Apple Watch. A $40 Chinese 'smartwatch" from Amazon might as well be an Apple Watch as most folks IMHO would not know the difference at a glance, even if you or others Apple fans would.

    IMO Jimmy Kimmel could probably pull off a repeat of his prank still today, sticking an Apple logo on a $20 "smartwatch" and passing it off as the amazing Apple Watch to Joe and Minnie out on the street, especially outside of massive cities like New York, San Fran or Chicago where Apple gear tends to be more prevalent than in small town America. 


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    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,771member
    gatorguy said:
    peterhart said:
    Misidentification might also be an issue, given how similar some smartwatches can look, and the fact that many people don't follow wearable technology that closely.
    I personally think a LOT of people are starting to follow the smart watch industry, especially with Apple Watch Series 3 buzz. I would hazard a guess MOST people could recognize Apple Watch...it's quite distinct.

    I don't think most folks have ever SEEN an Apple watch so it would not be surprising that it's simply a catch-all name just as some people call any smartphone an iPhone. FWIW I myself have never seen one in the wild (and there's a million people in my metro area) tho no doubt some customer of mine, or someone "the next table over" has been wearing one. I've just not ever noticed. If I was looking for them I might have. 
    How strange, in my southern city of 400,000 city limits / million major metro, I see them near daily. I know you're not very familiar with Apple products, would you know what one looked like?
    And there you go, you've realized that saying "most people would recognize an Apple Watch if they saw one" probably isn't true. Thanks you for actually agreeing with me even if that wasn't your intent. 
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  • Reply 38 of 46
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,771member
    gatorguy said:
    larrya said:
    gatorguy said:
    MacPro said:
    jcs2305 said:
    gatorguy said:
    peterhart said:
    Misidentification might also be an issue, given how similar some smartwatches can look, and the fact that many people don't follow wearable technology that closely.
    I personally think a LOT of people are starting to follow the smart watch industry, especially with Apple Watch Series 3 buzz. I would hazard a guess MOST people could recognize Apple Watch...it's quite distinct.

    I don't think most folks have ever SEEN an Apple watch so it would not be surprising that it's simply a catch-all name just as some people call any smartphone an iPhone. FWIW I myself have never seen one in the wild (and there's a million people in my metro area) tho no doubt some customer of mine, or someone "the next table over" has been wearing one. I've just not ever noticed. If I was looking for them I might have. 
    You are actually saying you have never seen an Apple watch in the wild? I think sometimes you just post things to simply disagree with a post? My goodness..  The Fitbit has existed since 2011 and yet no-one knows about it.... and the Apple Watch is so insignificant in your metro area that you have not seen one on a single person in the nearly 2 and 1/2 years it has existed, yet somehow it has taken up the "catch all" name for fitness trackers/smart watches? 
    Don't take anything he posts seriously, he is a pro-Google troll and knows he is spouting crap.  The number of people I see wearing Watches is amazing.  My wife and I evacuated Florida recently and in airports in Tampa, Boston and Manchester NH I saw so many I felt left out not owning one, I should add, my wife does and I will get one soon.  We traveled extensively and stayed at quite a few hotels in Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Maine before we flew home yesterday.  We saw Watches everywhere.  No wonder Apple are now the number one watch (not just smart watch) today. 
    That's because you "watch" for them. I'm absolutely being honest and have NEVER seen an Apple Watch in the wild. Your silly name-calling doesn't make it any different (why does a presumably smart guy even do juvenile stuff like that?). You've probably had  a hundred Moto G's pass you by but could probably answer honestly you not ever seen one in the wild. Apple Watches aren't anything I keep an eye out for, nor any other smartwatches for that matter. They hold no interest. 

    It's like buying a certain color vehicle that you hadn't seen out on the roads all that much if at all. Once you start driving it they seem to be everywhere. But don't assume everyone else is noticing your new toy. They aren't. 

    "I don't keep an eye out for any type of smart watch"
    +
    "I've never seen an Apple Watch in the wild"

    Ignore my posts on this matter
    You should try harder at reading for context. Reread the post I originally replied to and you just might understand the point being made. 
    No, he's absolutely right. And now you're apparently hiding behind word games. How about this -- instead of merely suggesting there was some point to you own self-discredited observation, why don't you just explain in clear terms the point you were trying to make? First you say you don't ever see them, now you say you are predisposed not to see them. So it's fair to call into question the value-add of your first statement.

    In general, any time you tell somebody there was a point to something you said but it was lost on them, the reality is that you failed to communicate the point effectively. It's not our job to parse out meaning in unclear comments, it's the poster's job to make meaning apparent.
    Read post 36, then go back and re-read the original post. My opinion didn't change from one to the other. If you still don't agree with me, that most folks would not recognize an Apple Watch if they saw one,  please explain why unless you silently agree of course.
    ...and try to avoid making it something personal. It's not. 
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    MplsPmplsp Posts: 4,179member
    so .... other than perhaps a bit of PR for Apple Watch, what does it matter if he was using an Apple Watch, a FitBit, a Samsung Gear or a Timex? The story was that he was using a device to cheat, not the brand of the device. Am I missing anything here?
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    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,771member
    MplsP said:
    so .... other than perhaps a bit of PR for Apple Watch, what does it matter if he was using an Apple Watch, a FitBit, a Samsung Gear or a Timex? The story was that he was using a device to cheat, not the brand of the device. Am I missing anything here?
    Nope, that's the actual story. The device used doesn't matter. 
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