Wow, this looks very cool. It even works underwater.
This could be adapted for parking lots to to charge electric cars, boats, planes, computers, phones, earbuds etc... Check out the patent portfolio... https://powerbyproxi.com/about/ip-portfolio/
What does PowerbyProxi have that Apple can't replicate themselves? Could there be a larger, more grandiose play here, like we're starting to see with automobile charging pads being planned for EVs?
Still waiting for real wireless charging...that'll be the real game-changer.
Ya, there's not a single phone made that has Wireless Charging!!! They are all Inductive Charging.
Qi is wireless. You may not the distance currently available with inductive charring standards, but it's undeniably wireless power.
It's undeniably marketing hyperbole.
Calling this tech "wireless charging" would be like getting excited about a new type of ethernet cable that attached to devices with magnets and calling that "wireless."
What does PowerbyProxi have that Apple can't replicate themselves? Could there be a larger, more grandiose play here, like we're starting to see with automobile charging pads being planned for EVs?
Still waiting for real wireless charging...that'll be the real game-changer.
Ya, there's not a single phone made that has Wireless Charging!!! They are all Inductive Charging.
Qi is wireless. You may not the distance currently available with inductive charring standards, but it's undeniably wireless power.
It's undeniably marketing hyperbole.
Calling this tech "wireless charging" would be like getting excited about a new type of ethernet cable that attached to devices with magnets and calling that "wireless."
:sigh: It's not MagSafe which physically connects metal pins that are held it in place using a magnet to make sure the pins form a physical connection. It's an electromagnetic field, not unlike how NFC creates an electromagnetic field; both of which are wireless technologies. This isn't up for debate. You can't say that power being sent though the air is not wireless simply because the distance doesn't match some sci-fi story or ridiculous expectation that it should be the same distance Bluetooth or cellular communication technologies.
Wow, this looks very cool. It even works underwater.
This could be adapted for parking lots to to charge electric cars, boats, planes, computers, phones, earbuds etc... Check out the patent portfolio... https://powerbyproxi.com/about/ip-portfolio/
Wow that’s some futuristic sh**.
That top imagine screams Apple Car. Imagine that, no electric charge stations.
Wow, this looks very cool. It even works underwater.
This could be adapted for parking lots to to charge electric cars, boats, planes, computers, phones, earbuds etc... Check out the patent portfolio... https://powerbyproxi.com/about/ip-portfolio/
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That's the future concepts I've been talking about as this technology evolves. I think it's possible that this could even use outside of parking lots, on areas with vehicles are stopped at lights and potentially even on highways as you drive. The latter tech we know is technically possible in some regard as the magnetic field created by power lines does allow you to sap electricity, but I don't know how feasible it would be to have power running under a road, even if they are straight cables from a cost perspective or safety concerns since this would be mostly unsupervised stretches and surely more difficult to implement safe guards. Still, I wouldn't rule it out as a longterm possibility if we're already seeing this being adopted by BMW and other EV manufactures for vehicles in the not to distant future.
In a more near future I'd like to drone technology that can use this (and perhaps solar) with even current GPS and mesh networking technologies to create local cellular grids. We've already seen that Google is doing this with balloons, but being able to send out drones that could work pretty much like a Roomba in the sense that it's deployed from a single location, except go to a particular location, and then communicate back to get a replacement before flying back to base to recharge. This could also work for events where cellular towers get saturated by the excessive number of people. Lots of possibilities.
Qi is wireless. You may not the distance currently available with inductive charring standards, but it's undeniably wireless power.
And yet dweebs whine about not having 'real' wireless and have no clue whatsoever of the problems of trying to charge a phone from across a room or whatever. They should hold their breath until it's here.
Apple needs to acquire Starbucks next. Wireless charging always reminds me of this. Sounds pointless until it “clicks”.
Wireless charging tables for iDevices and new Qi MacBooks!
Today at Apple events. Apple gathering spots.
Starbucks Gift cards with Apple purchases. ApplePay rewards.
Finally the Apple Cafes Steve Jobs wanted... in every city.
This would be a repeat of the Beats deal. Won’t make sense until it does.
Why would Apple want to spend $80B+ on a coffee company? They've had charging tables there for years, Starbucks does it for free to bring in customers. A partnership might make sense but acquisition would be a total waste of money.
What does PowerbyProxi have that Apple can't replicate themselves? Could there be a larger, more grandiose play here, like we're starting to see with automobile charging pads being planned for EVs?
Still waiting for real wireless charging...that'll be the real game-changer.
Ya, there's not a single phone made that has Wireless Charging!!! They are all Inductive Charging.
Qi is wireless. You may not the distance currently available with inductive charring standards, but it's undeniably wireless power.
It's undeniably marketing hyperbole.
Calling this tech "wireless charging" would be like getting excited about a new type of ethernet cable that attached to devices with magnets and calling that "wireless."
:sigh: It's not MagSafe which physically connects metal pins that are held it in place using a magnet to make sure the pins form a physical connection. It's an electromagnetic field, not unlike how NFC creates an electromagnetic field; both of which are wireless technologies. This isn't up for debate. You can't say that power being sent though the air is not wireless simply because the distance doesn't match some sci-fi story or ridiculous expectation that it should be the same distance Bluetooth or cellular communication technologies.
In my defense, the picture for this article changed after I posted it. There is clearly an air gap in the picture now, so yeah this is "wireless." But calling the charging method for the Apple Watch or iPhone 8 wireless is misleading. I've never said that I'm expecting or demanding to be able to charge my devices while carrying them around; I just object to misleading terms. If I told someone that the Apple Watch charges wirelessly, they would call me a liar.
Still waiting for real wireless charging...that'll be the real game-changer.
I don't give a crap about Inductive Charging. It's OLD TECH. I don't see what the big deal is. It's more Energy efficient to just plug it into a cheap cable then a $40+ charging pad that's still plugged into the wall. I dock my iPhone next to my bed every night and that's pretty darn fast.
It’s about convenience, not efficiency. Traveling with a single charging pad to plop three devices to charge on overnight is convenient. Ditto for walking up to a counter in the airport lounge, or wherever, dropping my phone on the counter and not needing to pack and carry a charging cable with me.
Convenience is the order of the day on this feature.
You can’t do that now. When, and if Apple’s comes out with its own device that enables that, then it would be more convenient. But I now have to charge three devices on a trip. I take my 29 watt charger and two cables. A 2 meter lightning cable for my iPad and iPhone, and a 2 meter cable for my Apple Watch.
i find I don’t have to charge all three every night. So it’s no inconvience. The watch charges pretty fast under any conditions. If I want to boost it, I can do so when getting ready to leave my room in the morning.
i don’t see much of an advantage in carrying a big plate with a bigger charger attached to it around with me wherever I go.
Still waiting for real wireless charging...that'll be the real game-changer.
Ya, there's not a single phone made that has Wireless Charging!!! They are all Inductive Charging. The same type of thing that my Electric Tooth Brush charges by. It's not the Qi standard, but it is Inductive Charging. The tooth brush sits on a base and that base is plugged into the wall. There's no physical electrical connection to the Tooth Brush. Sits on a base and is charged by a coil.
I don't give a crap about Inductive Charging. It's OLD TECH. I don't see what the big deal is. It's more Energy efficient to just plug it into a cheap cable then a $40+ charging pad that's still plugged into the wall. I dock my iPhone next to my bed every night and that's pretty darn fast.
When I can walk around a room and not have to even get out my phone and it's charging. That's Wireless Charging. If I can place my phone anywhere in my house. Toss it onto the sofa. Throw in on a table. Doesn't matter, there's no mat under it and it charges, THAT is wireless charging. If I can pick up my phone and answer the call, or check my messages and the phone is still charging. THAT is wireless charging. You can't do any of that with FAKE Wireless charging, which is really just Inductive Charging. I don't care if it's from Samesung, or Apple, I could care less about Inductive Charging.
When there's a phone with real wireless charging, I'll be first in line for it.
All wireless means is that there is no direct connection between the charger and the device being charged.
you’re talking about over the air charging. So far, that’s proving very difficult. They’re talking about directional charging, which is like the latest WiFi, where the router can beam the signal directly to the device rather than almost all over, wastefully. Some people are worried about strongly focused radio power signals.
Up to 1.8" (45mm), as I recall, for Qi specification 1.2 is through the air. People can say that they don't like the distance but you can't say it's not wireless.
That’s so you can charge through a case. Also the current loops around as any magnetic field would. It’s not so much a feature, as it is a fact of electromagnetics.
What does PowerbyProxi have that Apple can't replicate themselves? Could there be a larger, more grandiose play here, like we're starting to see with automobile charging pads being planned for EVs?
Still waiting for real wireless charging...that'll be the real game-changer.
Ya, there's not a single phone made that has Wireless Charging!!! They are all Inductive Charging.
Qi is wireless. You may not the distance currently available with inductive charring standards, but it's undeniably wireless power.
What does PowerbyProxi have that Apple can't replicate themselves? A better question would be what does PowerbyProxi have that Apple can replicate? Does this remind you of anything? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uQUgq5k6N8
This company has been around for ten years. Apple seems to have been seriously looking at this for less than half that. They likely have designs and patents that Apple is interested in. This is why Apple constantly buys small hi tech companies every year. Not everything Apple does is invented at Apple, or is not completely invented at Apple.
What does PowerbyProxi have that Apple can't replicate themselves? Could there be a larger, more grandiose play here, like we're starting to see with automobile charging pads being planned for EVs?
Still waiting for real wireless charging...that'll be the real game-changer.
Ya, there's not a single phone made that has Wireless Charging!!! They are all Inductive Charging.
Qi is wireless. You may not the distance currently available with inductive charring standards, but it's undeniably wireless power.
It's undeniably marketing hyperbole.
Calling this tech "wireless charging" would be like getting excited about a new type of ethernet cable that attached to devices with magnets and calling that "wireless."
:sigh: It's not MagSafe which physically connects metal pins that are held it in place using a magnet to make sure the pins form a physical connection. It's an electromagnetic field, not unlike how NFC creates an electromagnetic field; both of which are wireless technologies. This isn't up for debate. You can't say that power being sent though the air is not wireless simply because the distance doesn't match some sci-fi story or ridiculous expectation that it should be the same distance Bluetooth or cellular communication technologies.
In my defense, the picture for this article changed after I posted it. There is clearly an air gap in the picture now, so yeah this is "wireless." But calling the charging method for the Apple Watch or iPhone 8 wireless is misleading. I've never said that I'm expecting or demanding to be able to charge my devices while carrying them around; I just object to misleading terms. If I told someone that the Apple Watch charges wirelessly, they would call me a liar.
But it's not misleading to call Qi wireless. There physically is no wire going between the devices. That is the very definition of wireless. Distance is immaterial.
Induction charging is currently the best form of wireless charging we have at the moment and is even used in many car parks in Japan for charging wireless cars. A plate comes up to the bottom of the car and starts charging the car. No wires between them at all.
Even if your preferred definition of wireless charging is over the air charging you'd still be wrong in that definition because there will still be wires going to a power source which is nothing different to inductive charging.
I can't see how any definition then of wireless is truly wireless.
What does PowerbyProxi have that Apple can't replicate themselves? Could there be a larger, more grandiose play here, like we're starting to see with automobile charging pads being planned for EVs?
Still waiting for real wireless charging...that'll be the real game-changer.
Ya, there's not a single phone made that has Wireless Charging!!! They are all Inductive Charging.
Qi is wireless. You may not the distance currently available with inductive charring standards, but it's undeniably wireless power.
What does PowerbyProxi have that Apple can't replicate themselves? A better question would be what does PowerbyProxi have that Apple can replicate? Does this remind you of anything? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uQUgq5k6N8
If you mean AirPower, then it does remind of it, but can devices be placed anywhere on the AirPower pad? I thought it had 3 distinct regions and could only support 3 devices. PowerbyProxi's solution, assuming it's different, is much better for reasons they mention in the video plus being even being less of a hassle for the user.
I would think the AirPower charging pad is just going to be an evolution of what PowerbyProxi presented in that video. Remember, that's from 2013. I've never read any info about the AirPower pad having distinct regions. As for the 3 device limit, I think that is strictly due to the size of the pad and the pad's size is strategically designed to accommodate an iPhone, Apple Watch, and AirPod case. I have no proof whatsoever but I'd also be willing to posit that the 3 device limit might have something to do with power constraints.
I also have no proof but the appearance and way it was presented led me to believe it was likely just 3 separate Qi charging coils. Hopefully that's not that the case and, say, a couple with 2 Series 3 Watches and a couple or the new AirPod chugging cases will be able to charge 4 devices, or a couple with two iPhones and a couple AirPods, or a family of 5 with 5 Watches, etc.
Unfortunately we may not get absolute word until next year when it launches, but we're still a bit in the dark on which 3rd-party Qi charging pads. When I was in the Apple Store to purchase my Series 3 Watch they had a 3rd-party Qi charging pad on the setup table but the Apple employee informed me it only works with the iPhone 8, and not the Series 3 Watch.
One problem is that according to what we’re reading, the Apple Watch has been using an Apple only charging solution. If it’s compatable with Apple’s upcoming pad, either the pad is using multiple methods, or Apple changed it in the series 3. Apple did say that they have technology (and assuming patents to back that up) that Qi doesn't, such as multiple device charging, which makes me believe that it’s NOT three individual charging spots on the pad. They also said that they are giving that new tech to Qi, if they’re interested.
it may also include a multiple standard charging capability.
What does PowerbyProxi have that Apple can't replicate themselves? Could there be a larger, more grandiose play here, like we're starting to see with automobile charging pads being planned for EVs?
Still waiting for real wireless charging...that'll be the real game-changer.
Ya, there's not a single phone made that has Wireless Charging!!! They are all Inductive Charging.
Qi is wireless. You may not the distance currently available with inductive charring standards, but it's undeniably wireless power.
It's undeniably marketing hyperbole.
Calling this tech "wireless charging" would be like getting excited about a new type of ethernet cable that attached to devices with magnets and calling that "wireless."
When are guys like you going to understand what wireless charging actually means? So you’re not happy that you can’t walk around the room with your phone, charging it and soaking up all of that radio supplied power. Great! But that doesn’t mean that devices that touch, but aren’t connected together by wires when charging aren’t wireless charging, because they are.
Still waiting for real wireless charging...that'll be the real game-changer.
I don't give a crap about Inductive Charging. It's OLD TECH. I don't see what the big deal is. It's more Energy efficient to just plug it into a cheap cable then a $40+ charging pad that's still plugged into the wall. I dock my iPhone next to my bed every night and that's pretty darn fast.
It’s about convenience, not efficiency. Traveling with a single charging pad to plop three devices to charge on overnight is convenient. Ditto for walking up to a counter in the airport lounge, or wherever, dropping my phone on the counter and not needing to pack and carry a charging cable with me.
Convenience is the order of the day on this feature.
You can’t do that now. When, and if Apple’s comes out with its own device that enables that, then it would be more convenient. But I now have to charge three devices on a trip. I take my 29 watt charger and two cables. A 2 meter lightning cable for my iPad and iPhone, and a 2 meter cable for my Apple Watch.
i find I don’t have to charge all three every night. So it’s no inconvience. The watch charges pretty fast under any conditions. If I want to boost it, I can do so when getting ready to leave my room in the morning.
i don’t see much of an advantage in carrying a big plate with a bigger charger attached to it around with me wherever I go.
I assume by "big plate" you're referring to AirPower. That's not designed for travel. There are plenty of Qi chargers that are small enough to be more convenient than a 2 meter Series 0 Watch cable and Lightning Cable.
As you mention, the Watch charges fast, so even a low-power charger will be able to charge your Series 3 Watch while you get ready and then your iPhone X or 8 series overnight with half the cables and overall less bulk. Some are even designed around traveling so they have built-in battery packs.
I almost always travel with my MBP so I never bring a separate PSU. However, if I did I'd probably just bring the 5W since it may be enough in the aforementioned setup. If not, you may want to consider, say, a 12W 3rd-party PSU from a reputably company that offers 2x USB-A ports so that you can charge more than one device at a time.
PS: I'm glad they reduced the size of the Watch charging cable. I found 6 feet cable to be excessive. PPS: I've found that if I put my Watch in Theater Mode and turn off wireless when not needed I can go several days without charging my Watch while still using it throughout the day. It was very helpful for a 3 night hike into the mountains. I did bring an Anker lipstick charger and the meter long charging cable, but next time I'll likely just bring one of the travel chargers with a built in battery pack for more convenience. These are less than $30 and have good reviews (although working with the Series 3 Watch is still not certain).
What does PowerbyProxi have that Apple can't replicate themselves? Could there be a larger, more grandiose play here, like we're starting to see with automobile charging pads being planned for EVs?
Still waiting for real wireless charging...that'll be the real game-changer.
Ya, there's not a single phone made that has Wireless Charging!!! They are all Inductive Charging.
Qi is wireless. You may not the distance currently available with inductive charring standards, but it's undeniably wireless power.
It's undeniably marketing hyperbole.
Calling this tech "wireless charging" would be like getting excited about a new type of ethernet cable that attached to devices with magnets and calling that "wireless."
:sigh: It's not MagSafe which physically connects metal pins that are held it in place using a magnet to make sure the pins form a physical connection. It's an electromagnetic field, not unlike how NFC creates an electromagnetic field; both of which are wireless technologies. This isn't up for debate. You can't say that power being sent though the air is not wireless simply because the distance doesn't match some sci-fi story or ridiculous expectation that it should be the same distance Bluetooth or cellular communication technologies.
In my defense, the picture for this article changed after I posted it. There is clearly an air gap in the picture now, so yeah this is "wireless." But calling the charging method for the Apple Watch or iPhone 8 wireless is misleading. I've never said that I'm expecting or demanding to be able to charge my devices while carrying them around; I just object to misleading terms. If I told someone that the Apple Watch charges wirelessly, they would call me a liar.
Now you’re just trying to backtrack. You should know by now what wireless charging means, and it doesn’t mean “air gap” between devices.
What does PowerbyProxi have that Apple can't replicate themselves? Could there be a larger, more grandiose play here, like we're starting to see with automobile charging pads being planned for EVs?
Still waiting for real wireless charging...that'll be the real game-changer.
Ya, there's not a single phone made that has Wireless Charging!!! They are all Inductive Charging.
Qi is wireless. You may not the distance currently available with inductive charring standards, but it's undeniably wireless power.
It's undeniably marketing hyperbole.
Calling this tech "wireless charging" would be like getting excited about a new type of ethernet cable that attached to devices with magnets and calling that "wireless."
:sigh: It's not MagSafe which physically connects metal pins that are held it in place using a magnet to make sure the pins form a physical connection. It's an electromagnetic field, not unlike how NFC creates an electromagnetic field; both of which are wireless technologies. This isn't up for debate. You can't say that power being sent though the air is not wireless simply because the distance doesn't match some sci-fi story or ridiculous expectation that it should be the same distance Bluetooth or cellular communication technologies.
In my defense, the picture for this article changed after I posted it. There is clearly an air gap in the picture now, so yeah this is "wireless." But calling the charging method for the Apple Watch or iPhone 8 wireless is misleading. I've never said that I'm expecting or demanding to be able to charge my devices while carrying them around; I just object to misleading terms. If I told someone that the Apple Watch charges wirelessly, they would call me a liar.
But it's not misleading to call Qi wireless. There physically is no wire going between the devices. That is the very definition of wireless. Distance is immaterial.
Induction charging is currently the best form of wireless charging we have at the moment and is even used in many car parks in Japan for charging wireless cars. A plate comes up to the bottom of the car and starts charging the car. No wires between them at all.
Even if your preferred definition of wireless charging is over the air charging you'd still be wrong in that definition because there will still be wires going to a power source which is nothing different to inductive charging.
I can't see how any definition then of wireless is truly wireless.
Some people just aren’t happy with what exists, so they change the definition until it means what they want it to mean. Others really don’t understand the definition. It’s hard to say with him which is which.
What does PowerbyProxi have that Apple can't replicate themselves? Could there be a larger, more grandiose play here, like we're starting to see with automobile charging pads being planned for EVs?
Still waiting for real wireless charging...that'll be the real game-changer.
Ya, there's not a single phone made that has Wireless Charging!!! They are all Inductive Charging.
Qi is wireless. You may not the distance currently available with inductive charring standards, but it's undeniably wireless power.
What does PowerbyProxi have that Apple can't replicate themselves? A better question would be what does PowerbyProxi have that Apple can replicate? Does this remind you of anything? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uQUgq5k6N8
If you mean AirPower, then it does remind of it, but can devices be placed anywhere on the AirPower pad? I thought it had 3 distinct regions and could only support 3 devices. PowerbyProxi's solution, assuming it's different, is much better for reasons they mention in the video plus being even being less of a hassle for the user.
I would think the AirPower charging pad is just going to be an evolution of what PowerbyProxi presented in that video. Remember, that's from 2013. I've never read any info about the AirPower pad having distinct regions. As for the 3 device limit, I think that is strictly due to the size of the pad and the pad's size is strategically designed to accommodate an iPhone, Apple Watch, and AirPod case. I have no proof whatsoever but I'd also be willing to posit that the 3 device limit might have something to do with power constraints.
I also have no proof but the appearance and way it was presented led me to believe it was likely just 3 separate Qi charging coils. Hopefully that's not that the case and, say, a couple with 2 Series 3 Watches and a couple or the new AirPod chugging cases will be able to charge 4 devices, or a couple with two iPhones and a couple AirPods, or a family of 5 with 5 Watches, etc.
Unfortunately we may not get absolute word until next year when it launches, but we're still a bit in the dark on which 3rd-party Qi charging pads. When I was in the Apple Store to purchase my Series 3 Watch they had a 3rd-party Qi charging pad on the setup table but the Apple employee informed me it only works with the iPhone 8, and not the Series 3 Watch.
One problem is that according to what we’re reading, the Apple Watch has been using an Apple only charging solution. If it’s compatable with Apple’s upcoming pad, either the pad is using multiple methods, or Apple changed it in the series 3. Apple did say that they have technology (and assuming patents to back that up) that Qi doesn't, such as multiple device charging, which makes me believe that it’s NOT three individual charging spots on the pad. They also said that they are giving that new tech to Qi, if they’re interested.
it may also include a multiple standard charging capability.
AirPower will only work with the Series 3 Watch.
Honestly, I don't know why Apple didn't support Qi with their original Watch. It seemed clear to me that Qi was the standard going forward. It's been in development for nearly a decade and Starbucks, IKEA, and others, as well as countless tech companies adopted it before the Watch ever launched. Maybe it was about size of the coils they could put into the first two generations of Watch, but that reason seems less than ideal to me.
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This could be adapted for parking lots to to charge electric cars, boats, planes, computers, phones, earbuds etc...
Check out the patent portfolio...
https://powerbyproxi.com/about/ip-portfolio/
Calling this tech "wireless charging" would be like getting excited about a new type of ethernet cable that attached to devices with magnets and calling that "wireless."
That top imagine screams Apple Car. Imagine that, no electric charge stations.
In a more near future I'd like to drone technology that can use this (and perhaps solar) with even current GPS and mesh networking technologies to create local cellular grids. We've already seen that Google is doing this with balloons, but being able to send out drones that could work pretty much like a Roomba in the sense that it's deployed from a single location, except go to a particular location, and then communicate back to get a replacement before flying back to base to recharge. This could also work for events where cellular towers get saturated by the excessive number of people. Lots of possibilities.
In my defense, the picture for this article changed after I posted it. There is clearly an air gap in the picture now, so yeah this is "wireless." But calling the charging method for the Apple Watch or iPhone 8 wireless is misleading. I've never said that I'm expecting or demanding to be able to charge my devices while carrying them around; I just object to misleading terms. If I told someone that the Apple Watch charges wirelessly, they would call me a liar.
i find I don’t have to charge all three every night. So it’s no inconvience. The watch charges pretty fast under any conditions. If I want to boost it, I can do so when getting ready to leave my room in the morning.
i don’t see much of an advantage in carrying a big plate with a bigger charger attached to it around with me wherever I go.
That’s so you can charge through a case. Also the current loops around as any magnetic field would. It’s not so much a feature, as it is a fact of electromagnetics.
This company has been around for ten years. Apple seems to have been seriously looking at this for less than half that. They likely have designs and patents that Apple is interested in. This is why Apple constantly buys small hi tech companies every year. Not everything Apple does is invented at Apple, or is not completely invented at Apple.
Induction charging is currently the best form of wireless charging we have at the moment and is even used in many car parks in Japan for charging wireless cars. A plate comes up to the bottom of the car and starts charging the car. No wires between them at all.
Even if your preferred definition of wireless charging is over the air charging you'd still be wrong in that definition because there will still be wires going to a power source which is nothing different to inductive charging.
I can't see how any definition then of wireless is truly wireless.
One problem is that according to what we’re reading, the Apple Watch has been using an Apple only charging solution. If it’s compatable with Apple’s upcoming pad, either the pad is using multiple methods, or Apple changed it in the series 3. Apple did say that they have technology (and assuming patents to back that up) that Qi doesn't, such as multiple device charging, which makes me believe that it’s NOT three individual charging spots on the pad. They also said that they are giving that new tech to Qi, if they’re interested.
it may also include a multiple standard charging capability.
As you mention, the Watch charges fast, so even a low-power charger will be able to charge your Series 3 Watch while you get ready and then your iPhone X or 8 series overnight with half the cables and overall less bulk. Some are even designed around traveling so they have built-in battery packs.
I almost always travel with my MBP so I never bring a separate PSU. However, if I did I'd probably just bring the 5W since it may be enough in the aforementioned setup. If not, you may want to consider, say, a 12W 3rd-party PSU from a reputably company that offers 2x USB-A ports so that you can charge more than one device at a time.
PS: I'm glad they reduced the size of the Watch charging cable. I found 6 feet cable to be excessive.
PPS: I've found that if I put my Watch in Theater Mode and turn off wireless when not needed I can go several days without charging my Watch while still using it throughout the day. It was very helpful for a 3 night hike into the mountains. I did bring an Anker lipstick charger and the meter long charging cable, but next time I'll likely just bring one of the travel chargers with a built in battery pack for more convenience. These are less than $30 and have good reviews (although working with the Series 3 Watch is still not certain).
Now you’re just trying to backtrack. You should know by now what wireless charging means, and it doesn’t mean “air gap” between devices.
Some people just aren’t happy with what exists, so they change the definition until it means what they want it to mean. Others really don’t understand the definition. It’s hard to say with him which is which.
Honestly, I don't know why Apple didn't support Qi with their original Watch. It seemed clear to me that Qi was the standard going forward. It's been in development for nearly a decade and Starbucks, IKEA, and others, as well as countless tech companies adopted it before the Watch ever launched. Maybe it was about size of the coils they could put into the first two generations of Watch, but that reason seems less than ideal to me.